we all moan and groan about players we sold or players we brought
but if you could turn back the clock and stop the sale of any one player or the buying of another who would it be and why?
no we had to because of this or that this is in a perfect environment
from my point of view it would have been to stop the sale of Alan Clarke. at the time i thought Clarke was one of the best strikers in the country and was still young enough to give us plenty of years of top service, this would also have stopped the arrival of Frank large nice bloke but just awful
this has probably ben posted loads of times but I have not seen it for a while
Saha. We were 4th in December if I remember correctly with him already on 12 or so goals.
Quote from: colcliff on November 13, 2014, 10:19:39 AM
we all moan and groan about players we sold or players we brought
but if you could turn back the clock and stop the sale of any one player or the buying of another who would it be and why?
no we had to because of this or that this is in a perfect environment
from my point of view it would have been to stop the sale of Alan Clarke. at the time i thought Clarke was one of the best strikers in the country and was still young enough to give us plenty of years of top service, this would also have stopped the arrival of Frank large nice bloke but just awful
this has probably ben posted loads of times but I have not seen it for a while
Everybody KNEW how good Clarke was.
There was no way a relegated club could have kept him.
For me, it'd have to be either Mitrog or Darren Bent, purely because I think we put our faith in Darren for the first half of last season and Mitrog for the second half - neither of whom performed and, had they not been brought-in, I think we could've spent the money more wisely elsewhere and possibly stayed in the top-flight..
As for someone who left, I still miss Danny Murphy and think it was a huge mistake to let him go; our midfield fell to pieces without him.
Edwin......he won bugger all after he left us..ahem
Moussa Dembele. Beautiful player. Always worth watching. Could build a team around him.
Though I agree that losing Danny Murphy was a totally pivotal development. Maybe if he'd stayed with us he'd be manager now (I have the hunch he would/will be a very good one). Oh for a time machine.
I was sad to see louis go . Not just because he was fantastic player , but because it was when reality kicked in and we realized we were never going to be "the Man ute of the south " - shame.
tony gilroy as i said yes we all knew we could not hold onto Alan Clarke but this is in a perfect world
Saha would be the obvious choice, but I'd have to say the Double D's.
We played som brilliant football in the second half of their last season and not only had a great starting eleven, but a strong well balanced squad. Had Dembele and Dempsey stayed, and Jol been allowed to spend on one or two quality player - then we'd have every chance of breaking into the top 6.
Stop the sale - has to be King Louis, honourable mentions to Steed, VDS, Dembele, Dempsey. Stop the purchase - has to be Berbatov, (lovely player but really damaged the spirit of the club) with dishonourable mentions to Mitroglu, Michael Brown, Ahmad Elrich.
Edwin certainly, Saha too, but more recently, Simon Davies. Bring him back!
So many: MacDonald, Marsh, Mullery, Saha, D&D...
Bent and Mitroglu for the reasons given above.
Danny Murphy never should have been allowed to leave the club. Jol's brilliant plan of replacing him with Diarra was our undoing.
Moussa Dembele for me. The one player that potentially, we could have built a team around and pushed for higher things with a bit of investment!Unplayable on his day, misunderstood at Spurs. How many times I hear, 'he doesn't score as many goals considering his record at Fulham'..... Clueless.
I was gutted to lose Steve Finnan. Have we had as good a fullback since?
Quote from: Barrett487 on November 13, 2014, 06:32:37 PM
I was gutted to lose Steve Finnan. Have we had as good a fullback since?
No one has even come close. A very special full back, i'd imagine only Cohen and Langley are regarded as greater for Fulham. Didn't regret him lleaving though, volz was a decent enough replacement and Finnan was one player who deserved a shot at a big club. He went on to win the champs league too.
As for player I wish we'd kept, it probably has to be dembele. Saha was superb but we replaced him with Mcbride. We replaced dembele with sidwell, karagounis, Diarra, kvist and Parker. Big difference and it showed.
Player I regret us signing would be a toss up between mitroglou bent and Berbatov. I think I hated berbatov the most and his attitude seemed to rub off on the players. Jol allowed him to ruin our team ethics and I never thought he was that good a player. I used to at spurs but not after seeing him week in week out. Had an incredible touch but football's about much more than that. I still regard him as a big reason we were relegated
Stop the sale? Jim Stannard (the first time).
Stop the buy? Peter Marinello.
There are so many. Marsh, Super Mac, Mullery, Davies, Earle, Houghton, Saha, Steed. But for me I was devastated when we sold Allan Clarke
Stop the sale, Luis Boa Morte,
Quote from: absent cottager on November 14, 2014, 08:50:53 AM
Stop the sale, Luis Boa Morte,
Really? I'm a huge fan of Boa but we mugged West Ham off by getting £5m for a player way past his best.
I've flown this kite before and didn't get struck down by a thunderbolt for heresy (or perhaps people just thought I was mad(der than usual).
Turn back the clock to the end of the 1961 season. Then (whisper this bit) sell Johnny Haynes for a record fee to Milan. He joins Jimmy Greaves there and they break records. Johnny is nowhere near Blackpool in the immediate future and thus retains his pre-injury form long enough to captain England to WC triumph.
The record fee paid by Milan is sufficient to finance the cover over the Hammersmith End and a set of floodlights with enough left to buy some decent young talent. Alan Mullery remains and, therefore, so does Bedford Jezzard who agrees to stay on and oversee the development of Bobby Robson as player-coach.
With no Buckingham and no Haynes we keep hold of Marsh and Macdonald. With Clarke they make the most potent attacking force in English football and triumphs in Europe make sure that nobody has ever heard of manchester United and Liverpool.
Haynes returns to his spiritual home after the 66 World Cup and Robson eventually takes over as manager to continue the progression of success which lasts to the present day.
Or we get relegated in 1962.
Even if not I wouldn't expect Trinder to have used the windfall wisely. Trinder we know sold to crooks but the root of our downfall was the well meaning Trinder's complete inability to run the club competently.
In recent years, loosing Dembele and I would have stopped Mitroglu, for the money to be spent elsewhere.
Quote from: cmg on November 14, 2014, 10:21:44 AM
I've flown this kite before and didn't get struck down by a thunderbolt for heresy (or perhaps people just thought I was mad(der than usual).
Turn back the clock to the end of the 1961 season. Then (whisper this bit) sell Johnny Haynes for a record fee to Milan. He joins Jimmy Greaves there and they break records. Johnny is nowhere near Blackpool in the immediate future and thus retains his pre-injury form long enough to captain England to WC triumph.
The record fee paid by Milan is sufficient to finance the cover over the Hammersmith End and a set of floodlights with enough left to buy some decent young talent. Alan Mullery remains and, therefore, so does Bedford Jezzard who agrees to stay on and oversee the development of Bobby Robson as player-coach.
With no Buckingham and no Haynes we keep hold of Marsh and Macdonald. With Clarke they make the most potent attacking force in English football and triumphs in Europe make sure that nobody has ever heard of manchester United and Liverpool.
Haynes returns to his spiritual home after the 66 World Cup and Robson eventually takes over as manager to continue the progression of success which lasts to the present day.
Just a pipe dream and it falls apart because we never seem to use wisely the money we obtain for our really good players and they leave a void in the team that takes years and years to fill.
Fulham rarely buy good( Just think of Marlet, AJ and Mitroglou), for us the best method has to be to hold on to what we have. Losing Haynes would have been an absolute calamity.
I was gutted when Julian Hails left for Southend. He was my favourite Fulham player as a lad. The others as above: Saha and Dembele were different class. I always thought too that we did not get best out of Fabrice Fernandes before he left. Gutted to lose him.
I hated Terry Hurlock at Fulham.
Quote from: filham on November 14, 2014, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: cmg on November 14, 2014, 10:21:44 AM
I've flown this kite before and didn't get struck down by a thunderbolt for heresy (or perhaps people just thought I was mad(der than usual).
Turn back the clock to the end of the 1961 season. Then (whisper this bit) sell Johnny Haynes for a record fee to Milan. He joins Jimmy Greaves there and they break records. Johnny is nowhere near Blackpool in the immediate future and thus retains his pre-injury form long enough to captain England to WC triumph.
The record fee paid by Milan is sufficient to finance the cover over the Hammersmith End and a set of floodlights with enough left to buy some decent young talent. Alan Mullery remains and, therefore, so does Bedford Jezzard who agrees to stay on and oversee the development of Bobby Robson as player-coach.
With no Buckingham and no Haynes we keep hold of Marsh and Macdonald. With Clarke they make the most potent attacking force in English football and triumphs in Europe make sure that nobody has ever heard of manchester United and Liverpool.
Haynes returns to his spiritual home after the 66 World Cup and Robson eventually takes over as manager to continue the progression of success which lasts to the present day.
Just a pipe dream and it falls apart because we never seem to use wisely the money we obtain for our really good players and they leave a void in the team that takes years and years to fill.
Fulham rarely buy good( Just think of Marlet, AJ and Mitroglou), for us the best method has to be to hold on to what we have. Losing Haynes would have been an absolute calamity.
Marlet had pedigree you know. Love or hate him, he was in the French national squad around the time they were all conquering. Given time, more could have come from him !!!!!!!
Nobody has mentioned paul Parker he and of course george cohen the two that stood out from all the others at that position. But at least we never sold .
PP was at his best when he went to MU
Should read at least we never sold george
For me Malcolm McDonald.
Most of the others mentioned more or less went due to relegation or an offer from a big club that the player fancied, or was too good for the club to refuse.
Supermack was a local lad, born Finley Street, who had showed fantastic potential in his debut season, and we let him go to Luton, who I believe were not much better off than us at the time.
Quote from: Barrett487 on November 13, 2014, 06:32:37 PM
I was gutted to lose Steve Finnan. Have we had as good a fullback since?
Good call but for me it would be another Fulham defender; Paul Parker.
Supermac was like a rocket with a really good left foot and big muscles .Anyone could see he was going to be great player .Im still gutted over that and it was nearly 50 years ago !
It has to be said that we have made some appalling purchases in our day ,but frank large has to be the worst , he really did have two left feet !
Im sure we made a double signing of wilf tranter and Stan Horne ,to try to stave off relegation in 1967/8 and what a double whammy catastrophe that was !
Simon davis also proved to be a good signing as did , Dempsey , Macbride and boba diop , all down to Cookie .
Perhaps our best signing ever though would have to Schwarzer , who was fantastic in the air and dominated his box like no other keeper before him .
So many good players were lost in the mid 80s (thanks to a crook of a chairman), but losing Ray Houghton to the mighty Oxford United really hurt. Of course, he went on to play for Liverpool at the very highest level.
That was some team that we had then. Paul Parker and Dean Coney buggered off to QPR, Tony Gale and Leroy (later) to West Ham. There was only one way we were heading after that fp.gif.
Quote from: colinwhite on November 20, 2014, 09:32:35 PM
Supermac was like a rocket with a really good left foot and big muscles .Anyone could see he was going to be great player .Im still gutted over that and it was nearly 50 years ago !
It has to be said that we have made some appalling purchases in our day ,but frank large has to be the worst , he really did have two left feet !
Im sure we made a double signing of wilf tranter and Stan Horne ,to try to stave off relegation in 1967/8 and what a double whammy catastrophe that was !
Simon davis also proved to be a good signing as did , Dempsey , Macbride and boba diop , all down to Cookie .
Perhaps our best signing ever though would have to Schwarzer , who wa
s fantastic in the air and dominated his box like no other keeper before him .
Our Australian custodian was a wonderful signing...that ability to dominate the box was ever so reassuring particularly when defending set pieces whilst clinging on to hard earned points in the closing minutes of games...fantastic pro....irritated when Money was flogged for a load of 3's....Saha spelt the end of a dream...Mullery for my elders.
coyw
You could argue that a lot of the names mentioned were at their prime here and never quite reached the same heights when they left, which is why I would hesitate to have the likes of Boa, Murphy, etc. there.
Finan would be top of the list for me.
