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Title: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: Lighthouse on July 01, 2010, 04:26:49 PM
Another Roy error. But confirmed.Greening is Permanent as 30/06/10.

Two year contract
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: LBNo11 on July 01, 2010, 04:36:24 PM
...still don't 'get' what Greening brings to Fulham, at best to me he was a basic squad player, but at a reported £4M and 'Hubcaps' Hodgson not been able to get the best out of him he is a very expensive squad player...
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on July 01, 2010, 04:55:05 PM
OK that is rock bottom

Surely the only way is up now...
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: RidgeRider on July 01, 2010, 04:58:29 PM
To be fair, Greening played in a lot of matches that we won. He didn't have the attacking DNA that Murphy does, but he did well in holding position and for 4M, maybe a overpriced but lets see how he does this year before we write him off. Remember Gera, Baird, Zamora, Etuhu, etc......?
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: JBH on July 01, 2010, 05:01:46 PM
OK what did Greening do wrong last season?
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: Mr Fulham on July 01, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Greening had only one year left at WBA, no way he'd cost 4M. I think that has to be roundabout 1M. This is ok.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: beijing ben on July 01, 2010, 05:25:06 PM
I think that he did okay on occasions but if we start the season with Greening as our first choice i will be extremely worried.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on July 01, 2010, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: JBH on July 01, 2010, 05:01:46 PM
OK what did Greening do wrong last season?

He didn't pass the ball forward...
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: LBNo11 on July 01, 2010, 06:06:28 PM
Quote from: JBH on July 01, 2010, 05:01:46 PM
OK what did Greening do wrong last season?

...apart from not passing the ball forward, he collected too many cards with rash challenges. I hope your are right about the £1M Mr Fulham, but Roy seemed very keen to get him, and WBA equally keen to keep him, their chairman spouting about what he is worth. But to me a good championship player; maybe we should keep him a while then - hmmm...
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: TonyGilroy on July 01, 2010, 06:07:57 PM
My bet is that in a looser system we'll get more out of Greening. He was mostly an attacking midfielder at West Brom.

In any event he's neither the problem or the solution. A decent squad player.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 01, 2010, 06:10:38 PM
Different Managers bring out different things in different players, the next Manager may well be able to do this with Greening?
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: finnster01 on July 01, 2010, 06:25:53 PM
I hope that was for a pack of fags and 10 track suits and certainly not 4 million.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: bigalffc on July 01, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
not even a good bench warmer
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: richardhkirkando on July 01, 2010, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: JBH on July 01, 2010, 05:01:46 PM
OK what did Greening do wrong last season?
Not much.  And that, IMO, has a lot more value than people realise.  He didn't pass the ball forward, but if he did, he'd still be at Man Utd. 

He does foul a lot, but not really more than most central midfielders (especially defensive ones).  I would like to see him *get* fouled more, though.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: ron on July 01, 2010, 08:32:26 PM
Greening the yellow card magnet.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: Rupert on July 01, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
Can I ask that we refrain from making Greening the scapegoat for Roy Hodgson going to Liverpool?
He did not set his own transfer fee, he did not demand that Fulham should buy him, he is a solid enough player who seems to know his own limitations and appears to give honest service.
We've had plenty in the past, the not too distant past, who could not claim as much.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: richie17 on July 02, 2010, 06:53:52 AM
At WBA in the Premiership he created 60 odd shots on goal or something; next season for us it was about 5.  Now if that's not a player with a different role I don't know what is.   Think he will surprise next year.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: OldBrownShoe on July 02, 2010, 08:10:57 AM
A mistake or could he be yet another player whom many scoffed at after signing or during their first season with us yet went on to make a significant contribution to the team effort? Zamora, Pantsil, Etuhu, Baird, Zola are just a few in recent times. Even legends like Allan Clarke and Gordon Davies didn't make an immediate impact.  Let's give the bloke a chance this season and it always help when players are played in their best position.  He might not be my favourite player but as he seems to have done ok at his previous clubs I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being at least.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: NorthernWhite on July 02, 2010, 09:12:10 AM
Unfortunately he was a lot more than 1 million. We had a 4 million offer turned down and then they relented and he joined on loan which was basically a permanent deal at the time. WBA do it that was to roll the fee into the following tax year and did it with Curtis Davies to Villa and Robinson to Bolton.

Not a bad squad player but too much for an average 30 year old in the last year of his contract.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: WhiteJC on July 02, 2010, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 01, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Greening had only one year left at WBA, no way he'd cost 4M. I think that has to be roundabout 1M. This is ok.

according to this its a lot more than 1M...

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/07/02/west-brom-won-t-get-windfall-from-new-jonathan-greening-deal-97319-26772616/? (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/07/02/west-brom-won-t-get-windfall-from-new-jonathan-greening-deal-97319-26772616/?)
West Brom won't get windfall from new Jonathan Greening deal

One player definitely not coming back to Albion is former skipper Jonathan Greening who has signed a two-year contract at Fulham after a season-long loan at Craven Cottage.

The midfielder became an important part of the London club's squad during the 2009/10 campaign, which saw Fulham reach the Europa League final.

The Cottagers have now confirmed the agreement for the 31-year-old, on the day that former boss Roy Hodgson was unveiled as the new manager of Liverpool.

Greening did have one year remaining on his contract at Albion and has now signed a two year deal at Fulham.

His move last summer was a binding loan agreement which turned into a £5.5 million permanent transfer with no option of a return - identical in essence to that which saw Tomasz Kuszczak move to Manchester United and Paul Robinson to Bolton.

But anyone hoping for a cash windfall to drop into Robert Di Matteo's coffers will be disappointed as Albion revealed some time back that the money had already been accounted for.
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: finnster01 on July 02, 2010, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on July 02, 2010, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 01, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Greening had only one year left at WBA, no way he'd cost 4M. I think that has to be roundabout 1M. This is ok.

according to this its a lot more than 1M...

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/07/02/west-brom-won-t-get-windfall-from-new-jonathan-greening-deal-97319-26772616/? (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/07/02/west-brom-won-t-get-windfall-from-new-jonathan-greening-deal-97319-26772616/?)
West Brom won't get windfall from new Jonathan Greening deal

One player definitely not coming back to Albion is former skipper Jonathan Greening who has signed a two-year contract at Fulham after a season-long loan at Craven Cottage.

The midfielder became an important part of the London club's squad during the 2009/10 campaign, which saw Fulham reach the Europa League final.

The Cottagers have now confirmed the agreement for the 31-year-old, on the day that former boss Roy Hodgson was unveiled as the new manager of Liverpool.

Greening did have one year remaining on his contract at Albion and has now signed a two year deal at Fulham.

His move last summer was a binding loan agreement which turned into a £5.5 million permanent transfer with no option of a return - identical in essence to that which saw Tomasz Kuszczak move to Manchester United and Paul Robinson to Bolton.

But anyone hoping for a cash windfall to drop into Robert Di Matteo's coffers will be disappointed as Albion revealed some time back that the money had already been accounted for.
If that is true, it is nothing short of armed robbery :046:
Title: Re: Greening Permanent - Confirmed
Post by: beijing ben on July 02, 2010, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: finnster01 on July 02, 2010, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on July 02, 2010, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 01, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Greening had only one year left at WBA, no way he'd cost 4M. I think that has to be roundabout 1M. This is ok.

according to this its a lot more than 1M...

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/07/02/west-brom-won-t-get-windfall-from-new-jonathan-greening-deal-97319-26772616/? (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/07/02/west-brom-won-t-get-windfall-from-new-jonathan-greening-deal-97319-26772616/?)
West Brom won't get windfall from new Jonathan Greening deal

One player definitely not coming back to Albion is former skipper Jonathan Greening who has signed a two-year contract at Fulham after a season-long loan at Craven Cottage.

The midfielder became an important part of the London club's squad during the 2009/10 campaign, which saw Fulham reach the Europa League final.

The Cottagers have now confirmed the agreement for the 31-year-old, on the day that former boss Roy Hodgson was unveiled as the new manager of Liverpool.

Greening did have one year remaining on his contract at Albion and has now signed a two year deal at Fulham.

His move last summer was a binding loan agreement which turned into a £5.5 million permanent transfer with no option of a return - identical in essence to that which saw Tomasz Kuszczak move to Manchester United and Paul Robinson to Bolton.

But anyone hoping for a cash windfall to drop into Robert Di Matteo's coffers will be disappointed as Albion revealed some time back that the money had already been accounted for.
If that is true, it is nothing short of armed robbery :046:


He's going to have to have a good first game of the season... 5.5... Jesus...