We just put 4 goals by a team that was ranked #1 in the league for away performances. What a win, what a game, well done all the lads!
I love how Ross offered the penalty to Woodrow, what a chap. He is the designated penalty kick taker, but he had one goal himself and allowed young Cauley the chance to get one himself. What a leader.
We've found our back 4 for now. Hutchinson is proving himself every start he gets.
MERRY XMAS Fulham FC and to the Faithful! 13th and now above Wednesday in the table.
yep, and leeds had a fantastic home record before we went their too. been a godd week and a nice early xmas present
Yes really happy with that performance and result. Lots of positives to take into Christmas.
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The future is bright. The future is Black and White.
I know very few agree with my but the last two wins have been massive and a huge part of that is down to the fact we didn't have to stuff around with a midweek game against Chelsea in the cup. Look at Derby they were top of the table but had one eye on the Chelsea game and got done against Middlesborough, then 3 days after the cup game failed at home to Norwich.
Kit got so much stick for not going into the cup with a full strength side, but look who is smiling now.
Kit is a great first year manager, and this team has so much heart to bounce back the way they do from a demoralising defeat. Even if we do fail to get any points away against the ridiculously high flying Bournemouth I have full confidence it will do nothing to dull the spirits of the team.
Quote from: The Equalizer on December 20, 2014, 05:09:35 PM
The future is bright. The future is Black and White.
and look at the kids we finished with. grimmer at rightback, and roberts winning a penalty, with goals from lvc and woodrow. plus im sure george had a big part in the build up to lvc's. this is what i was hoping for from our kids this season
I too agree that Ross should get some credit for giving Woody the penalty. Very unselfish of him
Quote from: Mokes on December 20, 2014, 05:11:29 PM
I know very few agree with my but the last two wins have been massive and a huge part of that is down to the fact we didn't have to stuff around with a midweek game against Chelsea in the cup. Look at Derby they were top of the table but had one eye on the Chelsea game and got done against Middlesborough, then 3 days after the cup game failed at home to Norwich.
Kit got so much stick for not going into the cup with a full strength side, but look who is smiling now.
Kit is a great first year manager, and this team has so much heart to bounce back the way they do from a demoralising defeat. Even if we do fail to get any points away against the ridiculously high flying Bournemouth I have full confidence it will do nothing to dull the spirits of the team.
after our europa run i dont know how anyone can dismiss a cup lightly. we have midweek league games too that dont always end in back to back defeats. think most wanted a stronger team out not the full first team. and we didnt win any of our next 2 after gifting derby the cup win if memory serves.
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
Ive done my predictions for FA Cup dont keep on.. :005:
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
Two clean sheets in a row after the 5 goal hammering. Last 4 matches, three wins. I think we can all feel very proud for a change. The awful start to the season feels a long time ago now.
Over 21,000 today and poor old QPR ONLY 17,000. Can't believe how our gates have held up.
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
No need to be that way, you're not always right. Today was a very good team game. I actually don't think ruiz played well at all, seemed frightened to get injured from where I was sitting.
I thought fofana played a lot better but kit was right to take him off, I hold my hands up about Grimmer. He played very well.
Overall apart from Ruiz I think everyone gave their heart and soul today. I don't think ruiz was bad but he looked uninterested. I think Hutchinson deserves praise too. Most of us wrote him off, I'm sure you didn't though
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
Jack Grimmer was excellent today, and Hutch getting a goal..
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
No need to be that way, you're not always right. Today was a very good team game. I actually don't think ruiz played well at all, seemed frightened to get injured from where I was sitting.
I thought fofana played a lot better but kit was right to take him off, I hold my hands up about Grimmer. He played very well.
Overall apart from Ruiz I think everyone gave their heart and soul today. I don't think ruiz was bad but he looked uninterested. I think Hutchinson deserves praise too. Most of us wrote him off, I'm sure you didn't though
think the fof one was aimed at me. But I'd still rather one of our own were given the game time over him
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
Ive done my predictions for FA Cup dont keep on.. :005:
Cheers mate, unlike some who seem to always be online but clearly are too busy to spare 30 seconds.
I won't be chasing certain people closer to the deadline, that's for sure
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
Ive done my predictions for FA Cup dont keep on.. :005:
Cheers mate, unlike some who seem to always be online but clearly are too busy to spare 30 seconds.
I won't be chasing certain people closer to the deadline, that's for sure
I'm on an ipad. Will dig out laptop tonight
No I'm not always right, but I'm protective of the younger players and just keep asking for people to have patience with them.
Apologies if offended anyone just happy the guys proved some people wrong today.
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
Ive done my predictions for FA Cup dont keep on.. :005:
Cheers mate, unlike some who seem to always be online but clearly are too busy to spare 30 seconds.
I won't be chasing certain people closer to the deadline, that's for sure
I'm on an ipad. Will dig out laptop tonight
where is the list?
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:45:28 PM
No I'm not always right, but I'm protective of the younger players and just keep asking for people to have patience with them.
Apologies if offended anyone just happy the guys proved some people wrong today.
That's what everyone wants however we did persist with long ball football for several games and it was ineffective and quiet rightly critisised. I don't get the original point?
This tit for tat posting is getting a little boring now people have different opinions but ultimately we all want the same thing.
I put £20 on Christensen to score at 7 to 1... Crazy odds. Happy Xmas
Just coming back from the game. Thought the first half was pretty even, and neither team played that well. A beautiful free kick from Ross who I thought played well, and Hutchinson header, who I thought was outstanding again, put us 2 up without us looking particularly good.
Second half was much better. We looked like scoring on the break all the time, and the third goal was a thing of beauty. I'd like to see the non given penalty again as it looked stone wall from the Hammy End and the keeper would have had to go. I didn't think the ref had a very good game at all.
Couple gripes would be Parker slowing the game down and generally going backwards with every pass. Was especially frustrating second half, and I personally would prefer Hyndman in there. Secondly Ruiz just looked uninterested. I've never been a fan, so I'm biased, but he'll be off in a couple of weeks anyway.
Positives were Hutchinson and LVC (as always), both who I thought played very well. Also I thought both fullbacks did very well, especially as they were pretty exposed in that first half. I feel the counter attack style we played second half suited the players a lot more than how we've been playing. Granted it helps to be ahead to play it. Nice Christmas present for everyone.
Special appreciation for the Wednesday fans who were superb throughout the game, and we're singing even when getting hammered
Great result but cost me my 5 game both teams to score acca... well worth it. 077.gif
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:45:28 PM
No I'm not always right, but I'm protective of the younger players and just keep asking for people to have patience with them.
Apologies if offended anyone just happy the guys proved some people wrong today.
but once again you are more protective over man citys kid than one of our own. why not be more patient with one of our kids
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
standing 20 feet away 100% penalty.
Ordar...Your right about Bryan he just going through the motions.
I think he is counting the days for Werder Bremen to come back
for him..
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Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:45:28 PM
No I'm not always right, but I'm protective of the younger players and just keep asking for people to have patience with them.
Apologies if offended anyone just happy the guys proved some people wrong today.
but once again you are more protective over man citys kid than one of our own. why not be more patient with one of our kids
Smacks head on table and gives up
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Ordar...Your right about Bryan he just going through the motions.
I think he is counting the days for Werder Bremen to come back
for him..
Hey may be going through the motions, and it will be best for everyone when he is off to be fair. He has the talent, but he just doesn't fit in with the British game. That being said, a beautiful free kick for Hutch by the sounds of it.
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Quote from: fulhamben on December 20, 2014, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:45:28 PM
No I'm not always right, but I'm protective of the younger players and just keep asking for people to have patience with them.
Apologies if offended anyone just happy the guys proved some people wrong today.
but once again you are more protective over man citys kid than one of our own. why not be more patient with one of our kids
Smacks head on table and gives up
or you could just answer why fofana should get special treatment over hyndman george tunnicliffe kaca staffy kavenagh and the likes. and yes it will be relevent if kit decides to extend the loan beyond january.
if we can get a point or more from Bournemouth then we are setting ourselves up to be in the top ten come mid Jan
Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
if we can get a point or more from Bournemouth then we are setting ourselves up to be in the top ten come mid Jan
which will make us a little more attractive in the window.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Very proud today and 4-0 didn't flatter us.
Did Woodrow dive? I was certain we should have had another penalty but he wasn't booked for diving. It was hard to tell from the JH stand, anyone in the hammy get a better view of it?
I thought it was a penalty and a red card for the keeper, although the guy behind me thought he went down rather easy. It may get shown on the box tonight so will watch then.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Ordar...Your right about Bryan he just going through the motions.
I think he is counting the days for Werder Bremen to come back
for him..
Thought exactly the same, so many times he was passed the ball only to pass the ball straight back. \Great corner kick but definitely looked like he was trying to ensure he did not pick up any sort of injury but you can't blame him for that if he is off in Jan
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 20, 2014, 05:33:08 PM
Over 21,000 today and poor old QPR ONLY 17,000. Can't believe how our gates have held up.
Very big presence from Wednesday fans, however. Probably 4000. They were in good voice too despite not having anything to cheer about.
Really enjoyed today. What a change after that debacle against Watford. Also, great crowd...thought they'd all be off shopping. Credit to the Owls supporters, and with us being a bit more vocal than in recent games, it created a wonderful atmosphere. But the highlight for me was that lad LVC. He is a complete joy to watch. Let's hope no Premiership scouts were there today.
:wine: xma2
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
No need to be that way, you're not always right. Today was a very good team game. I actually don't think ruiz played well at all, seemed frightened to get injured from where I was sitting.
I thought fofana played a lot better but kit was right to take him off, I hold my hands up about Grimmer. He played very well.
Overall apart from Ruiz I think everyone gave their heart and soul today. I don't think ruiz was bad but he looked uninterested. I think Hutchinson deserves praise too. Most of us wrote him off, I'm sure you didn't though
Lots of pluses today, lots of positives, pleased for Hutchinson. And Grimmer, LVC was sheer quality, Super Mac, was super, Parkers work rate was an example to us all. Bodurov had his best game for a while. But it was also a great team performance against a well organised and well drilled team. I entirely agree with you about Ruiz, he didn't track back to protect Grimmer in the first half, and as you say he didn't look interested and looked as though he didn't want to get injured. He couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, which is a shame as if he could convince himself his future is with Fulham, we could see a different Ruiz, that would be committed, but it just isn't going to happen I am afraid, as for Fofana, I think Kit decided to take him off to avoid a possible second yellow card, but I was pleased to see three subs used to keep others involved. As for Ruiz, I think he may very well be gone in the Window. Now that Staff is suspended for Boxing Day, I assume if he is fit, Sean Kavanagh will replace him.
What an intriguing game this match v Bournemouth is going to be, it will be a great test for us, but we can hold our own against a very good inform team, who are expected to win, so all the pressure is on them.
Staf being suspended is the big worry isn't it (especially since that was the least of all offences to be bookable)? I think Kav will be fine, but I fear for our defense with a young player that hasn't featured much and is injury prone. As for Fofana - he is turning into quite the player with some game time under his belt, and I was rather critical my first few times of watching him, pleased to say I was way off the mark.
Bournemouth are definitely expected to win and will more than likely be trying to wreck havoc down the wings - they must be stopped at all costs from doing this. Kit using three subs shows that he is growing in managerial expertise and is learning along with his players. For example, may on the match day thread were off saying that couldn't understand why Roberts was brought on with 5 minutes of regular time left to play, but behold he did his part, forced a foul, and a resulting penalty and 4th goal to seal the day and a position higher in the table.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 20, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Ordar...Your right about Bryan he just going through the motions.
I think he is counting the days for Werder Bremen to come back
for him..
Thought exactly the same, so many times he was passed the ball only to pass the ball straight back. \Great corner kick but definitely looked like he was trying to ensure he did not pick up any sort of injury but you can't blame him for that if he is off in Jan
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought ruiz played that way. It was so obvious and at times it felt like we had 10 men but that's an even bigger credit to the other 10 who were all outstanding and the subs of course.
Woolly glad we agree again. I meant fofana was right to go off to prevent a red card, the first booking was so stupid so hopefully kit has a word about that. He's only young.
Very impressed today and lvc is turning into a superstar. I haven't seen a goal like that or a player run the length of the pitch at pace since Boa Morte used to do it. Special player and motm today although it could've gone to any of them (bar ruiz)
I could see Ross tell KS - about Fofana - "the ref said one more foul and he's off" -- so a great sub by KS
Quote from: Baszab on December 20, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
I could see Ross tell KS - about Fofana - "the ref said one more foul and he's off" -- so a great sub by KS
He brought down there player on the touchline right by the dugout just before he went off. He was lucky not to go off then. The first booking was ridiculous but he's only young and will learn.
It was a good decision by kit but to be fair it was an obvious correct decision.
Very very happy today, well done kit. Merry christmas son!
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
We all see the game differently. I've always found him frustrating but today he didn't seem to even try.I thought it looked very obvious he was pulling out of tackles and playing safe. The last thing him and his agent wants is an injury now just before the window opens. He was our worst Player today and I don't think I'll even miss him and likewise I doubt he will miss us.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2014, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
No need to be that way, you're not always right. Today was a very good team game. I actually don't think ruiz played well at all, seemed frightened to get injured from where I was sitting.
I thought fofana played a lot better but kit was right to take him off, I hold my hands up about Grimmer. He played very well.
Overall apart from Ruiz I think everyone gave their heart and soul today. I don't think ruiz was bad but he looked uninterested. I think Hutchinson deserves praise too. Most of us wrote him off, I'm sure you didn't though
Agree with all your points Danny.
Also I'm astounded by the work rate of Ross Mac. He is everywhere on the pitch and never gives up. Awesome.
I heard talk in some toerag tabloid about him going in January. But I think he is loving playing footy with all of our youngsters.long may it continue.
COYW !
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
The game absolutely passed him by today as with most games as for hastening his departure then as far as I'm concerned that can only be a good thing from Bryan and for the club.
I am intrigued to know what effect Ruiz has on our defence???
The above aside today was fantastic and alot of us myself included owe Hutchinson a huge apology as he was immense again today. He was Burn with bite, didn't get bullied off the ball read the game very well and won just as many headers. Man of the match for me today with LVC a close second and an honourable mention to Fofana who was very good. Enjoy the turkey boys you've earnt it!
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
I agree.
Win 4-0 and pick holes. Aren't we clever?
Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
So anyone want to talk about our long ball football?
Fofana and what he offers to the team, can you see it now?
Grimmer second half was a rock and some proper old fashioned tackles.
I'll even back Ruiz and say he played well.
Fofana was a revelation! His yellow card was very strange. It was right in front of me but I still hav no idea why he got it. He is a real workhorse and seems to be developing a very nice touch
Quote from: TonyGilroy on December 21, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
I agree.
Win 4-0 and pick holes. Aren't we clever?
Another sarcastic comment from the chap who claims I don't accept other people's opinions?
Frankly (a word you like to use) ruiz didn't put in half the effort that the rest did and frankly it was obvious he was avoiding an injury with the window so close.
The positives from yesterday are coming out of my ears and I have praised everyone else. I'm not going to pretend ruiz played well or even tried because that undermines the effort the other 10 put in. This isn't a I hate ruiz club, it was pretty obvious yesterday what he was doing and good luck to him. I hope he gets his dream move.
Please tell me though and ill ask you here because trying to be civil in a private message didn't work, what's the difference between the sarcastic way you mug off a different opinion and the way I passionately disagree but try to give a valid reason?
I don't get the dislike of me, I thought the forum was all about opinions. And as for me suffocating the forum, everywhere I look you're here too!
I'm not going to bite my tongue because you definitely don't
Quote from: TonyGilroy on December 21, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
I agree.
Win 4-0 and pick holes. Aren't we clever?
I dont think folks are picking holes Tony.
You might think in a different game so and so was poor and someone
else might think so and so was brill.
Ive backed Bryan when some have had a go this season, but dont look
at things through rose coloured specs..He was poor yesterday
for most of the game..Simple fact ..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2014, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on December 21, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
I agree.
Win 4-0 and pick holes. Aren't we clever?
I dont think folks are picking holes Tony.
You might think in a different game so and so was poor and someone
else might think so and so was brill.
Ive backed Bryan when some have had a go this season, but dont look
at things through rose coloured specs..He was poor yesterday
for most of the game..Simple fact ..
Its all about opinions Mince. I have no issue with someone thinking ruiz played well (he didnt) but explain why you disagree and then we can have a debate
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 21, 2014, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2014, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on December 21, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
I agree.
Win 4-0 and pick holes. Aren't we clever?
I dont think folks are picking holes Tony.
You might think in a different game so and so was poor and someone
else might think so and so was brill.
Ive backed Bryan when some have had a go this season, but dont look
at things through rose coloured specs..He was poor yesterday
for most of the game..Simple fact ..
Its all about opinions Mince. I have no issue with someone thinking ruiz played well (he didnt) but explain why you disagree and then we can have a debate
I am agreeing with you..Ruiz was poor..lol
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2014, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on December 21, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Quote from: Andy S on December 20, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I think the criticism of Bryan Ruiz is completely unfair. There is no way we could have achieved that 4-0 without him. When he came off against Watford we were toothless. I think the attitude from a lot of supporters will hasten his departure and it is not just our attacking play that will be affected but our defence as well
I agree.
Win 4-0 and pick holes. Aren't we clever?
I dont think folks are picking holes Tony.
You might think in a different game so and so was poor and someone
else might think so and so was brill.
Ive backed Bryan when some have had a go this season, but dont look
at things through rose coloured specs..He was poor yesterday
for most of the game..Simple fact ..
Its all about opinions Mince. I have no issue with someone thinking ruiz played well (he didnt) but explain why you disagree and then we can have a debate
I am agreeing with you..Ruiz was poor..lol
Lol I know you were agreeing with me and I was agreeing with you for backing me up. Maybe I should have made that part clearer.
The fact every time I have a view/opinion quite a few people share it. That reassures me that whilst I'm not always in the right at least I'm not a muppet out there on my own
Basically if you don't agree with someone..... HAVE A POINT. It makes it so much more interesting for the person you're disagreeing with
Merry Xmas Mince
My dear wife says Im never right.. :016:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 21, 2014, 10:35:12 AM
My dear wife says Im never right.. :016:
Well your wife's wrong, your right about ruiz ;)
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Quote from: MJG on December 20, 2014, 05:45:28 PM
No I'm not always right, but I'm protective of the younger players and just keep asking for people to have patience with them.
Apologies if offended anyone just happy the guys proved some people wrong today.
but once again you are more protective over man citys kid than one of our own. why not be more patient with one of our kids
Smacks head on table and gives up
or you could just answer why fofana should get special treatment over hyndman george reedtunnicliffe kaca staffy kavenagh and the likes. and yes it will be relevent if kit decides to extend the loan beyond january.
For the moment Fofana is ours so is no different from anyone else so should get 100%, we've had some great loan signings in the past. He is providing something extra. He tackles gets the ball and carries it across midfield. There were hardly any long balls up to Dave yesterday. Whether it's luck or good judgement but there seems a better shape to the team. LVC took his goal so coolly waiting for the goalie to commit. Thought the subs were well timed. Woodrow was sharp as soon as he came on and McCormack letting him take the penalty was a smart mature decision and probably points to a strong bond within the squad.
Lots of pluses and got to meet up with Suffolk White and Josh great day all round.
