Absolutely chuffed with today's result, once McCormack buried that beauty of a free kick we always looked like we were going to win! Comfortably mid table and a few wins away from the play offs. Excuse the optimism but its not all that often we win so convincingly.
However I was desperately disappointed with Woodrow's blatant dive inside the box late on. Sad to see that from a Fulham player I was really quite annoyed when he could have just tapped home. Everyone around me agreed he threw himself to the floor. I don't expect to see a replay on the football league show but am interested to know what everyone else thought. I know for a fact that had that been a Sheffield Wednesday player going down like that we would have absolutely slaughtered him for it. And of course, why was there no action at all from the referee?
Dont want this to take away from the result, fantastic!
Shaun and jim thought he dived on the commentary.
I could only hear the match from the GJ commentary, and although he was certain it was a penalty, Sean Davies instantly called it a dive. No offense to GJ, but I believe Davies when he said it looked to be a huge dive on Cauley's part. I hope he gets a talking to from the gaffer and some teammates, we don't do that. I'll have to see for myself from the replay.
As for the Playoff spot indication, I am with you. We still have the entirety of the 2nd half of the season to play, nothing to say it can't be accomplished, no matter what the odds.
From where I was in the Hammy End, it looked a stonewall pen. But if it was a 'blatant' dive, why didn't either the ref or linesman pick up on it?
Looked a blatant penalty from where I was sitting, so will be interested to see it again. Dunno why he'd dive as he could have just tapped it into an open goal.
Ref didn't book him either
Quote from: colinwhite on December 20, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
Shaun and jim thought he dived on the commentary.
jim thought it was a pen sean thought it was a dive
Was in the Hammy End and thought it was a dive. He had a great opportunity to score so disappointed he didn't try and stay on his feet. That's one element of football i hate.
Pathetic refereeing from Mariner. If it was a dive, Cauley should have had a yellow. If it wasn't, red for Westwood.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 20, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
Was in the Hammy End and thought it was a dive. He had a great opportunity to score so disappointed he didn't try and stay on his feet. That's one element of football i hate.
it might not have been a dive though
I'm convinced the keeper caught him with his hands.. view from h4
Thought it was a pen from where I was sitting in H6. If not should have been Booked
Quote from: madffc on December 20, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
I'm convinced the keeper caught him with his hands.. view from h4
It looked a pen to me as well. Two thirds up and right above it in H4. Thought both lino's were rubbish. The bloke Staf got booked for fell over the ball right in front of one.
I'm H6 as well and looked a certain penalty from my angle. Do appreciate that different angles can give a different perspective.
If it was a dive then certainly should have been a yellow but surely easier to slot the ball into the net?
The only POSSIBLE explanation, is that the ref thought the keeper got the ball, then the ball ricochet'd off Woodrow's foot and out for a goalkick.
H2 thought it was a dive, but couldn't understand why he wasn't booked.
The keepers reaction at blaming the defenders was what made me think there may have been contact, he looked like he was prepared to go and seemed surprised nothing was given.
LOOKED A PEN TO ME BUT HIOPEFULLY WILL SEE IT ON tv TONIGHT
capslock off now just an error nopt shouting
i suppose i could have retyped quicker than this explanation
Viewed from the very end of the S block, it looked like a clear penalty but then Woodrow was on the Stevenage rd side when he went down. The Hammersmith lot closest to the Stevenage Rd would have had the best view.
We should leave diving to the experts, namely Chelsea!
In a radio interview Kit said that Cauley told him that the GK caught him. There were 3 Fulham players waiting for a tap in so why should he have dived.
End of.
H4 looked a pen and to be fair to him even if not touched he would have had to avoid the keepers attempt.
Kieron Westwoods reaction said it all. Tore into his defenders when Woodrow went over. He knew he'd got away with it. Should be looking at a one game ban like Bettinelli. Funny how Mariner gave the pen a couple of minutes later when the defender clearly won the ball. Making up for his howler methinks.
sitting 20 feet away the keeper made clear contact, nearly buster bloodvessel despite us being 3-0 up at the time.
Same here
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 20, 2014, 06:29:16 PM
From where I was in the Hammy End, it looked a stonewall pen. But if it was a 'blatant' dive, why didn't either the ref or linesman pick up on it?
The bloke behind me said 'If you're not giving a penalty then you're saying it's a dive so why no booking?' I was right in front of it and I saw their keeper take his ankle out.
From where I sit I thought it a pen. But the guy behind thought no contact and a dive. I need to see the replay.
He should have kicked it in the net before taking it round the keeper either way.
On another note Mariner is possibly the worst ref in the league at the moment. He's been relegated to this game due to shocking performances, and, imo, should be relegated to to a league 1 game next week. I really don't understand how they can take their massive salaries and sleep soundly at night with such inept displays. In any other industry they would be sacked immediately.
Good result mind. COYW!
H3 - couldn't be clearer - never seen such a brick wall penalty - thought the Prem officials were bad, but this lot!!!
I was right in line with it in the Hammy End and looked a pen to me.
I did look at the lineman first as he had a better view than what the reddish.
If it wasn't a pen then he should of bookedWoodrow
I couldn't tell from the JH. And the indecisive reactions probably means my opinion is the most accurate. I didn't have a clue lol.....
Don't understand why he wasn't booked though.
It'll be pretty embarrassing if it was a dive as kit said in the press this week that it isn't something he expects for his players
Why would you assume that the lad went down ????
Westwood got Woodrow which was why no cards were shown and the ref gave a goal kick.
As you are incorrect , ....... . Can you please change the title of this thread
I think KCat is the female version of me as was just thinking the same , if the OP had put question marks in the title , then I may be different, but you're saying it was a dive when no one has shown any stonewall evidence that it was a dive.
Cauley is an honest lad and I don't believe he'd of dived to win a pen
Couldn't tell from halfway line in riverside , but you more often see them given,and yes the ref was poor throughout for SW and us and as already said he gave a pen very soon afterwards , didn't get a clear shot of that either, but the decision speaks volumes. Old sayin "one swallow doesn't maker a summer " but a great result giving me a feel good factor for the rest of the weekend
Sitting in H2 and had a great view, stonewall penalty in my mind.
As expected no comment on the Football league prog, maybe it will be on the club website.
Until Ive seen a replay showing clear contact Im standing by my opinion that there was minimal contact and that he went down looking for a penalty taking the easy option. If it was as clear cut as some are suggesting then there would be no debate there is no smoke without fire. I also think that for some the Fulham shirt is clouding their evaluation. I know for a fact that had a Sheffield Wednesday player gone down like that in front of the Hammersmith end 4000 people behind the goal would have absolutely pelted the player with abuse. From H6 it looked soft at best and I dont want to see that from our younger players especially.
Who knows I may see a replay and completely change my mind on the matter! I do hope this happens.
Quote from: ffcthereligion on December 21, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
Until Ive seen a replay showing clear contact Im standing by my opinion that there was minimal contact and that he went down looking for a penalty taking the easy option. If it was as clear cut as some are suggesting then there would be no debate there is no smoke without fire. I also think that for some the Fulham shirt is clouding their evaluation. I know for a fact that had a Sheffield Wednesday player gone down like that in front of the Hammersmith end 4000 people behind the goal would have absolutely pelted the player with abuse. From H6 it looked soft at best and I dont want to see that from our younger players especially.
Who knows I may see a replay and completely change my mind on the matter! I do hope this happens.
So you're 100% sure it was a dive??? From H6
Disappointed with the coverage on the Fulham ap, as you cannot tell. However I had a great view and thought it was a dead cert pen.
From my (not gonna lie, great view) it looked a stonewall penalty!
From my view in New York and I couldn't get a stream or hear GJ it was a stonewall penalty
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At the time, I could not tell if contact was made, I sit in S Block and felt that Cauley should have shot earlier. But after seeing the replay then I feel that it was definate pen. Just look at Westwoods reactions, because he obviously felt the same.
Quote from: KCat on December 21, 2014, 08:37:34 AM
Why would you assume that the lad went down ????
Westwood got Woodrow which was why no cards were shown and the ref gave a goal kick.
As you are incorrect , ....... . Can you please change the title of this thread
Not seen the incident yet, but if the red thought Westwood got Woodrow surely it's a pen, if he didn't surely he has to think dive.
Waiting for full hilights so I can see myself
If anyone wants to see it the full match replay is up go to 1hr 27mins and 30 seconds.
For me that's a penalty purely from the keepers reaction, he gets up screaming at his defenders not even bothering to look at the ref. He thought he was off for all money and couldn't believe it when the ref did nothing. The ref obviously had no idea and didn't want to take a chance either way which is really poor from him.
Quote from: ffcthereligion on December 21, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
Until Ive seen a replay showing clear contact Im standing by my opinion that there was minimal contact and that he went down looking for a penalty taking the easy option. If it was as clear cut as some are suggesting then there would be no debate there is no smoke without fire. I also think that for some the Fulham shirt is clouding their evaluation. I know for a fact that had a Sheffield Wednesday player gone down like that in front of the Hammersmith end 4000 people behind the goal would have absolutely pelted the player with abuse. From H6 it looked soft at best and I dont want to see that from our younger players especially.
Who knows I may see a replay and completely change my mind on the matter! I do hope this happens.
As you are clearly incorrect and you have maligned the character of one of our young players
please change the title of this thread. Better still perhaps one of our Mods can change it to:
Cauley was Robbed
I've always believed that you back and stick up for one of your own, whichCauley is, so although I still think it was a pen,
I still find it hard that our own fans will basically all him a cheat with no real hard evidence.
Insure even tv replays won't be conclusive so I'm sticking up for Cauley and saying it was a pen
I saw the incident on TV yesterday and it was NO DIVE and a genuine penalty. If I saw the opposite I would condemn any Fulham player, but it was not the case which really relieved me. Fulham do not play like Chelsea who try to win at all costs!
I thought it was a dive from H2
Clear view from H2 and Westwood definitely caught Woodrow before the ball. However I would blame the linesman who had a clear view - unlike the ref who was behind the play. Also the same linesman should have clearly seen that Staph's tackle was not only not a foul but was a beauty!
No Dive, Ref saw it as keeper got a touch on the ball before taking out Woodrow, Im not so sure he got a touch
Sure it wasn't a dive, but not really a pen either. I think the (very poor) ref was trying to make up for not giving a pen when their goalie tripped us up earlier
I don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere (?) but how can any referee miss such a stone wall penalty? I admire Cauley's restraint - I thought the officials last year were bad, but this lot.....
It has "Woodrow dive" four pages of it!
sat in JH b block row b near the front, nearly in line cast iron penalty for me,as did all around think so, Ruiz picked the ball up to take the penalty and the goalie's only reaction was to shout at his defenders , not at the ref or Woodrow, he got away with it and he knew it, poor sportsman when he went to Woodrow as he was waiting to take the next one, should have had a yellow for that.
