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Title: Merged: Kit In/Out/Other
Post by: Tonywa on February 14, 2015, 04:17:36 PM
Just saying' - and not for the first time.  Sleep walking towards relegation.
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Tonywa on February 14, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Really lucky that the combination of a flu bug and the physical aftermath of my bereavement meant I was not well enough to go today.  Sounds dreadful!
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: One Martin Thomas on February 14, 2015, 05:03:52 PM
Dreadful ?  1 shot on target in 90minutes of football and that was from a defenders mistake.  Thank god for the flu !
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: The Rock on February 14, 2015, 05:06:21 PM
Another game of 60-62% possession as well and nothing to show for it.
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Tonywa on February 14, 2015, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on February 14, 2015, 05:03:52 PM
Dreadful ?  1 shot on target in 90minutes of football and that was from a defenders mistake.  Thank god for the flu !

It's getting really worrying.  No change in tactics which patently aren't working and what is to my mind an under-performing squad.  We bring in two players on loan with little more experience than those we already have and who seem to add nothing at all to the team. Very difficult to see an upside to any of it.
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
If we lose to Millwall I want him gone. But I wouldn't complain if he went today.

Every week he is proving more and more that the turnaround was beginners luck but to be fair even I could've done better than magath.

Starting to feel a MUG for calling for him to be appointed by the panel.

No experience No leadership  No ideas

NO CLUE!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
If we lose to Millwall I want him gone. But I wouldn't complain if he went today.

Every week he is proving more and more that the turnaround was beginners luck but to be fair even I could've done better than magath.

Starting to feel a MUG for calling for him to be appointed by the panel.

No experience No leadership  No ideas

NO CLUE!!!!!!!!
mug :005:
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Lighthouse on February 14, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
If we lose to Millwall I want him gone. But I wouldn't complain if he went today.

Every week he is proving more and more that the turnaround was beginners luck but to be fair even I could've done better than magath.

Starting to feel a MUG for calling for him to be appointed by the panel.

No experience No leadership  No ideas

NO CLUE!!!!!!!!

No Team.
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Domino1879 on February 14, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Another aimless performance.  Still can't defend set pieces. 
Kit says he knows this league.  Well he demonstrates each week that he can't set the team up to play the opposition.  One shot on target at home? Pathetic.
He's needed someone with experience from day one, but no one brought in.
We needed to strengthen squad this window, but nothing.
Absentee owner and absentee Board with no interest. 
League 1 looms large. 
I don't doubt that Kits heart is in the job, but I'm afraid he has no idea. 
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: robert on February 14, 2015, 05:39:51 PM
Sack certain players,not the manager!!!
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 14, 2015, 05:44:43 PM
Quote from: robert on February 14, 2015, 05:39:51 PM
Sack certain players,not the manager!!!

Its him thats picking his favourite boys every week.
Once again today Tuncliffe Utter Garbage(what does he do,)
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Bill2 on February 14, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
If we lose to Millwall I want him gone. But I wouldn't complain if he went today.

Every week he is proving more and more that the turnaround was beginners luck but to be fair even I could've done better than magath.

Starting to feel a MUG for calling for him to be appointed by the panel.

No experience No leadership  No ideas

NO CLUE!!!!!!!!
mug :005:
Having sat and watched the pile of rubbish we are playing I can't see what your reply was saying. Quite honestly at any club with ambition he would be sweating on his job now. His formation and tactics are not working. He has taken the Championship top scorer last season and turned him into an occasional goal scorer.
Title: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: Tooting legend on February 14, 2015, 06:53:40 PM
Sack him now before it is to late.. Simple KIT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: leonffc on February 14, 2015, 07:00:01 PM
I never wanted him in but thought he warranted a go with his start. But was never confident.
Ive remained relatively silent because I believe a manager should be given time. Unfortunately I've seen no improvement in that time and today has tipped my scales firmly in the 'Kit out' camp. Sorry Kit, you are as clueless as the idiots that sit by me!!
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.
the new manager wouldnt persist with the diamond though would he
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: Tooting legend on February 14, 2015, 07:24:40 PM
Well we have been linked with both Bruce and big Sam neither will be offered a new contract at the end of the season. So basically they wont lose a lot by jumping ship early to get what is being reported 4 million a year over 3 years to get us promoted next season. Plus a million pound bonus. Theres also a Mr Hoddle out of work at the moment who could bring the old backroom staff of Jordan, and Bond from QPR.
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: PokerMatt on February 14, 2015, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: leonffc on February 14, 2015, 07:00:01 PM
I never wanted him in but thought he warranted a go with his start. But was never confident.
Ive remained relatively silent because I believe a manager should be given time. Unfortunately I've seen no improvement in that time and today has tipped my scales firmly in the 'Kit out' camp. Sorry Kit, you are as clueless as the idiots that sit by me!!

Absolutely, 100% this.

By all accounts a top bloke and he's Fulham through and through, so I can't say a bad word about him.

But seeing as I haven't got a good word to say about his managerial ability, I suppose I'm done here.
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: ron on February 14, 2015, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.
the new manager wouldnt persist with the diamond though would he

Maybe...he might also be the kind of guy who puts cheese on injuries...goes out on the booze with his management team....doesn't have a clue......tells the world we have no ambition and runs away....nothing would surprise me about what he's like after the run we've had...

Of course he might be a hodgson, but the odds against are fairly long.......
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: ron on February 14, 2015, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.
the new manager wouldnt persist with the diamond though would he

Maybe...he might also be the kind of guy who puts cheese on injuries...goes out on the booze with his management team....doesn't have a clue......tells the world we have no ambition and runs away....nothing would surprise me about what he's like after the run we've had...

Of course he might be a hodgson, but the odds against are fairly long.......
doesnt have to be a hodgson, just better than kit. and the odds of finding a worse manager must be highier than that of finding a better one
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: Nero on February 14, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
do you think the peoblem with kit is he had it to easy with the u21s I mean he had a bunch of top youngster that won nearly ever game so he didnt have to think tactically and now find himself out of his depth, I do think a good No2 with a sound tactical background would help, and what ever happened to the Director of Football? seems to have gone quite on that and if you listen to Khan media man hes saying similar thinlks to what he said before Felix was sacked im in contact every week im aware of the current situation.
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: alfie on February 14, 2015, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.

Where have you the information that there is no financial backing?

Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on February 14, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
If we lose to Millwall I want him gone. But I wouldn't complain if he went today.

Every week he is proving more and more that the turnaround was beginners luck but to be fair even I could've done better than magath.

Starting to feel a MUG for calling for him to be appointed by the panel.

No experience No leadership  No ideas

NO CLUE!!!!!!!!
mug :005:
Having sat and watched the pile of rubbish we are playing I can't see what your reply was saying. Quite honestly at any club with ambition he would be sweating on his job now. His formation and tactics are not working. He has taken the Championship top scorer last season and turned him into an occasional goal scorer.

Thanks for backing me up Bill but Ben ' s a good guy and he was actually agreeing with us I think.....?

I put in capital letters MUG because I feel like one for backing him at the start and I believe MR Ben was just playing on the word with banter.

Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: Ordar on February 14, 2015, 07:49:18 PM
Hasn't Kahn spent more money on the team than Al Fayed did for years before leaving?
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: BalDrick on February 14, 2015, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.
Never ever thought I'd say this but Warnock. Whoever it was would insist to Khan to get some loanees in otherwise we're gone. Lack of experience of this league is what's going to kill us
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: Tonywa on February 14, 2015, 07:52:50 PM

Of course he might be a hodgson, but the odds against are fairly long.......
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Well he's as inflexible as Roy, the big difference being that Roy's system worked perfectly for us whereas the current one does anything but.
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: ron on February 14, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on February 14, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Really lucky that the combination of a flu bug and the physical aftermath of my bereavement meant I was not well enough to go today.  Sounds dreadful!

I too missed the game because I am in Scotland due to family bereavement. I feel luck y that I haven't had that dreadful flu bug.....

Talking about the fact that Kit had "beginners luck".......was it though?...was it just chance, or was it the fact that he had a set plan that all the other coaches rumbled, and set themselves up to mass a defence in front of goal when we attack, and break on the wings? Also, you see other teams pressing after kick off and then again in the last five minutes of the first half, when our play has become noticeably lax, either due to concentration or fitness. With some variation in play, surely the rewards of his earlier games might still be available to us".

Also that playing too deep and allowing them room needs to stop.
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 08:13:03 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on February 14, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on February 14, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
If we lose to Millwall I want him gone. But I wouldn't complain if he went today.

Every week he is proving more and more that the turnaround was beginners luck but to be fair even I could've done better than magath.

Starting to feel a MUG for calling for him to be appointed by the panel.

No experience No leadership  No ideas

NO CLUE!!!!!!!!
mug :005:
Having sat and watched the pile of rubbish we are playing I can't see what your reply was saying. Quite honestly at any club with ambition he would be sweating on his job now. His formation and tactics are not working. He has taken the Championship top scorer last season and turned him into an occasional goal scorer.

Thanks for backing me up Bill but Ben ' s a good guy and he was actually agreeing with us I think.....?

I put in capital letters MUG because I feel like one for backing him at the start and I believe MR Ben was just playing on the word with banter.


hell yes, ive been in the its not working with kit for ages now.
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: BalDrick on February 14, 2015, 08:13:28 PM
Quote from: alfie on February 14, 2015, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on February 14, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
And replace with who??? The new manager won't get any financial backing either.

Where have you the information that there is no financial backing?


Evidence more than information
Title: Re: OUT!!!!
Post by: Luka on February 14, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
The side don't look like they know what he wants.They certainly don't seem able to play his preferred formation. He just keeps " flogging a dead horse".
We should have started with Ruiz, we looked a more competent side with him on the pitch. He is arguably our most talented player.
Staff should have been subbed after the 2nd goal, he was hopeless today and culpible for both.
Roberts came on late and again didn't make a difference, although I doubt he would have even if he had been given 45mins (not convinced he is all that special anyway).

One poor decision after another.......

He should go,and if not now then in the summer.
Title: Re: Get him out!!!!!!!
Post by: fulhamben on February 14, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on February 14, 2015, 07:52:50 PM

Of course he might be a hodgson, but the odds against are fairly long.......

Well he's as inflexible as Roy, the big difference being that Roy's system worked perfectly for us whereas the current one does anything but.
[/quote]in his defence, he was saying a new manager might be a hodgson
Title: Re: Merged: Kit In/Out/Other
Post by: hovewhite on February 14, 2015, 09:20:29 PM
I have seen us in worse situations than this before the PL years,but theres always been signs that we can recover however at the moment the signs are not there and we need some positives from within the club,management and players.