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Title: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Fulham Tup North on March 01, 2015, 12:13:52 PM
 092.gif  ......hoped he would be gone by now.  We don't need someone with such a poor attitude at the club, thinking they are better than the rest of the team.
Having said that, when he plays, we win or at least play a lot better and often get at least a point.
If he keeps playing for the remainder of the season we will be safe, but once he goes in the summer, who will step in to cover his role?
COYW
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Robbie on March 01, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Maybe he will now stay. If we have a good run and we can build for a push to the PL next season.  Surely better than mid table Spanish football !?  (or "training matches for RM/Barca" as they are called)
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on March 01, 2015, 01:07:47 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on March 01, 2015, 12:13:52 PM
092.gif  ......hoped he would be gone by now.  We don't need someone with such a poor attitude at the club, thinking they are better than the rest of the team.
Having said that, when he plays, we win or at least play a lot better and often get at least a point.
If he keeps playing for the remainder of the season we will be safe, but once he goes in the summer, who will step in to cover his role?
COYW

But he IS better than the rest of the team (despite getting caught on the ball too often) and should be playing in a top league somewhere.

He was MOTM for me yesterday, lots of tackles and creative passes. He gives us something different when he plays. As long as the team plays a fast, pressing game, not falling back and defending deep, as it did earlier under Kit and most impressively yesterday then we can accommodate him in the team and the team is better for his presence.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Ordar on March 01, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
He played well yesterday. What does annoy me is that he never celebrates our goals. He's obviously leaving at the end of the season though so he's probably not that bothered
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:13:45 PM
Quote from: Ordar on March 01, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
He played well yesterday. What does annoy me is that he never celebrates our goals. He's obviously leaving at the end of the season though so he's probably not that bothered

I noticed that when the players ran over to celebrate our first goal, ambles back..
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: David Allen Crankshaw on March 01, 2015, 01:58:41 PM
He had a decent game yesterday but he makes it plain that he doesn't want to be here. I will be glad when he's gone. He isn't good enough to play in a top league which is evident by the lack of suitors.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: F.luke on March 01, 2015, 02:00:34 PM
Ruiz MoM you must be kidding played a lot better but needs too no where near Parker or Woodrow
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Lighthouse on March 01, 2015, 02:02:35 PM
Let's be honest, he went walkabout for the last half an hour and kept trying to play flicks and tricks too deep. If we had conceded a goal or two from his mistakes we would be howling for him to be dropped.

However we are better with him in the side and he had a good game up until then. But he will leave and we need to find better players.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 02:04:23 PM
Man of the Match???????
What game were you watching? He played well, but Parker was immennse.
So was Hutch actually. .
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: snarks on March 01, 2015, 02:12:17 PM
What I liked about the defensive performance was the willingness to get the ball forward and away from the box. No tippy tappy across the back four. First look was (generally) upfield and if any doubt - hoofed
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on March 01, 2015, 02:35:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 02:04:23 PM
Man of the Match???????
What game were you watching? He played well, but Parker was immennse.
So was Hutch actually. .

Parker, like the rest of the team, put in the kind of performance we have been demanding from the team for some while. He put in some good tackles and driving runs as for our second goal as we should expect but there were still too many sideways and backwards passes typically to Hutchenson whose only option often is then to hoof it forward.

I give my vote for MOTM to Ruiz for his effort (like others) in pressing and for the creativity he offered, spreading the play giving us time and space on the ball and for his positive move inside and shot that lead to our first goal.

That's my opinion.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: TheManOnTheBus on March 01, 2015, 02:59:03 PM
Bryan won't leave. He will be here next season for our  promotion.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: jimmyc19 on March 01, 2015, 03:14:29 PM
Are you mad? He's our best player by a country mile, we haven't won a game when he hasn't played! Can't blame him for being a little annoyed, we screwed up his move, but he's given even more effort imo since, I don't care whether he celebrates or not. And his first touch rivals Berba ...
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Max Headroom on March 01, 2015, 03:27:59 PM
I can't fault the man. He wasn't happy but despite having his move cocked up he puts in 100% effort every game, and is a completely different player to the one that started against blackburn that first game in the premiership....
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Bryanthebroom on March 01, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
A quality performance from all of our midfield players yesterday but Parker and Ruiz stood out. I can't believe people are still on his back. He goes out of his way to make sure he's always available, his passing is creative and looks effortless and while tackling and pressing obviously isn't his game, he puts in loads of effort positionally off the ball to make sure passing options are reduced for the opposition.

People fault his commitment to the club but let's face it, he's way too talented to be playing in the bottom half of the championship. The fact that he hasn't spat out his dummy and is still doing a fantastic job for the team is credit to him.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: grandad on March 01, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
I don´t like all the girly celebrations so credit to Ruiz for acting as a professional. A simple pat on the back or handshake is all that is required.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Kent Cassandra on March 01, 2015, 03:57:42 PM
I noticed just before the kick off Ruiz ran to shake hands with Parker, McCormack and a few others.
Did he celebrate before? Some people don't go for all this childish celebratory nonsense.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Skatzoffc on March 01, 2015, 04:24:31 PM
I thought he was great yesterday.

I think we look more balanced when he is in the team.
But I also believe he works better, (and as a consequence the team), when we move the ball quicker.
That what happened yesterday imo.

If you move the ball forward quicker there is more space. So someone with his 1st touch and awareness can pick good passes and the team is more penetrative.

Very entertaining game to watch.

Maybe it was down to KS losing his rag. He certainly was angry after Millwall. So maybe a shout or two after that debacle and on the training ground has shaken up the players.

Long may it continue.

COYW!

Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: epsomraver on March 01, 2015, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on March 01, 2015, 01:07:47 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on March 01, 2015, 12:13:52 PM
092.gif  ......hoped he would be gone by now.  We don't need someone with such a poor attitude at the club, thinking they are better than the rest of the team.
Having said that, when he plays, we win or at least play a lot better and often get at least a point.
If he keeps playing for the remainder of the season we will be safe, but once he goes in the summer, who will step in to cover his role?
COYW

But he IS better than the rest of the team (despite getting caught on the ball too often) and should be playing in a top league somewhere.

He was MOTM for me yesterday, lots of tackles and creative passes. He gives us something different when he plays. As long as the team plays a fast, pressing game, not falling back and defending deep, as it did earlier under Kit and most impressively yesterday then we can accommodate him in the team and the team is better for his presence.
:plus one: :plus one: :plus one: :plus one:
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: callumc513 on March 01, 2015, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on March 01, 2015, 01:07:47 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on March 01, 2015, 12:13:52 PM
092.gif  ......hoped he would be gone by now.  We don't need someone with such a poor attitude at the club, thinking they are better than the rest of the team.
Having said that, when he plays, we win or at least play a lot better and often get at least a point.
If he keeps playing for the remainder of the season we will be safe, but once he goes in the summer, who will step in to cover his role?
COYW

But he IS better than the rest of the team (despite getting caught on the ball too often) and should be playing in a top league somewhere.

He was MOTM for me yesterday, lots of tackles and creative passes. He gives us something different when he plays. As long as the team plays a fast, pressing game, not falling back and defending deep, as it did earlier under Kit and most impressively yesterday then we can accommodate him in the team and the team is better for his presence.

Preach.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: you lucky people on March 01, 2015, 06:48:02 PM
there is no way he will stay next season, he does not want to be here and will move on despite the fact that no 'big' club seems to have come in for him. He plays and he plays well but he seems like a surly teenager who is doing detention
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: TrexFFC on March 01, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
I love how as soon as Ruiz comes back for a full game we get a win. If we're going to play this formation then we NEED him. I hope he does actually leave the club because I'm getting really tired of him getting slagged off even when he performs well.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: callumc513 on March 01, 2015, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on March 01, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
I love how as soon as Ruiz comes back for a full game we get a win. If we're going to play this formation then we NEED him. I hope he does actually leave the club because I'm getting really tired of him getting slagged off even when he performs well.

Same, it's not fair on him.
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on March 01, 2015, 07:18:47 PM
I feel short changed with Ruiz,  why couldn't he perform like that in the premier league?

He wasn't motm because that was parker by a long way. But ruiz was brilliant and we aren't any where near as good without him. His work rate has improved a lot under kit, he used to be lazy defensively in a pathetic way but now he tracks back and actually makes tackles.  

It's ironic, what comes round goes around as they say. I couldn't care less about ruiz and his career once the summer comes and he leaves, likewise I doubt he will shed a tear if we are relegated again after he leaves.  But it's very clear ruiz tried to use us as a stepping stone to an Arsenal just like most players do. It backfired for ruiz through no one's fault but his own and now as he's desperate to leave we are using him because we need him.

He blows hot and cold with me but I didn't appreciate his comments to the media. We all knew he wanted to leave so I don't see why he felt the need to belittle our club and tell the world he was very eager to leave and angry the move fell through.  

Just shut up and let the feet do the talking Bryan and then we can part companies in the summer both getting what we want. We stay up and you play for the mighty levante who could well be relegated this season.  Dream move

But credit where it's due, on the pitch he has been superb this season
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Fulham1959 on March 01, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on March 01, 2015, 04:24:31 PM
I thought he was great yesterday.

I think we look more balanced when he is in the team.
But I also believe he works better, (and as a consequence the team), when we move the ball quicker.
That what happened yesterday imo.

If you move the ball forward quicker there is more space. So someone with his 1st touch and awareness can pick good passes and the team is more penetrative.

Very entertaining game to watch.

Maybe it was down to KS losing his rag. He certainly was angry after Millwall. So maybe a shout or two after that debacle and on the training ground has shaken up the players.

Long may it continue.

COYW!



Very interesting point !

I've just watched the first half on Fulham FC and he certainly worked hard yesterday ;  but Scotty was simply amazing !
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: Burt on March 01, 2015, 10:16:49 PM
Well if he doesn't want to be here at least he is professional enough to put in a good shift rather than just go through the motions and for that he deserves a bit of respect.
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Post by: Berserker on March 01, 2015, 10:58:19 PM
I still love him, but then I always have
Title: Re: Cannot stand Ruiz......
Post by: The Rock on March 02, 2015, 12:03:40 AM
The fact that he ran around before the match to shake everyone else's hands after he had 327 transfers fall through and still willing to show up and give it all he's got tells you that he likes his football and a really good sport. Quality player and everything I'd expect from someone with that bit of extra class.

So what do you think of Joey Barton?