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MARTIN Jol is set to be named the new Fulham boss in the next 48 hours.
The Chronicle understands the 54-year-old would be happy to take the rolling contract on offer at Craven Cottage as well as an improved salary on his current job at Ajax.
Jol only took over at the Amsterdam Arena last summer, helping them to the Dutch Cup and second spot in the Eredivisie, but it is believed he is keen to return to the Premier League.
Talks with Sven Goran Eriksson, who has been favourite for the post, have stalled over the terms of the deal and the fat wage packet the Swede has become accustomed to with England, Manchester City and the Ivory Coast.
The Whites are keen to appoint Roy Hodgson's successor as soon as possible with the pre-season trip to Sweden on the horizon early next week, with Jol set to fit the void in SW6.
who'd know what's true n what's not anymore, but Jol I'd be happy with.
Quote from: Hazey on July 15, 2010, 06:48:29 PM
who'd know what's true n what's not anymore, but Jol I'd be happy with.
I know they're a small, local paper, but the Chronicle have been spot on with a few things in the past, most notably when Roy was set to depart and where to etc. Seems they have some sort of basic inside knowledge. I too would be satisfied with Jol.
And he is a bald man with glasses (occassionally) as per this post on TIFF after last nights game - :011:
Date Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 11:40:10pm
Author: paul
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Subject: new man
talking to one of the players mums tonight,(reserve player) said an announcment will be made tomorrow and that he said the new man is bald and wears glasses (not sven0 so my money is on Bob Bradley who i think was probably their tonight
Ive always had a certain respect for Jol. He knows the English game and has Premiership experience..
I too would be happy with this appointmeant!
...Martin Big Jawl it is then, the Fulham Chronicle have a good record in insider info.
He has something to prove in the premiership and even though he was manager of that loathesome north London team, I actually liked him. Happy with him over SGE any day...
Martin Jol's Blawhiarmy :clap_hands:
Martin Jol's Blawhiarmy :clap_hands:
Martin Jol's Blawhiarmy :clap_hands:[/
Woke up this morning, got myself a gun -
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I think Martin Jol is an appointment we can all get behind.
He is the wryest of managers, humble - shy almost, loved by the ladies, respected by his players and fellow coaches and much missed by Mrs Noise who can now enjoy my Martin Jol impressions again on a regular basis.
He also looked funnier with hair than without and can put out fires with his nose -
(http://www.11freunde.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/pixa_15057.jpg)
Nope, can't get excited about Jol. Leaving the Spurts debacle aside, he didn't impress at Hamburg. Back on home turf with Ajax he did OK (given the resource of one of Holland's premier and most established clubs) but Brolly Boy's Twente still pipped them to the title.
He certainly doesn't get my vote, but I'll take him over the Swedish fishy finger any day.
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm leaning towards Hughes out of all the names touted....
I just wish the club would get off its thumbs - otherwise I might have to cancel the planned Jolly Boys Outing to Blackpool..... :dft003:
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Jol is a very solid appointment with the tactical nous and eye for a player of Sven without the sideshow element or fear of him selling out. Did a great job for Spurs and would certainly be a step in the right direction.
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If it's not to be Hughes i'd be happy with Jol. Anyone but SGE.
Martin Jol has been the most popular football manager in Britain over the past three years. Idolised by his own fans at Tottenham Hotspur for his honesty and no-nonsense approach to interviews, he has earned the respect of football supporters across the country; in 2006 he was voted `Manager Fans Would Least Like To Pick A Fight With' - respect! Spurs fans regularly chanted `He's got no hair, but we don't care!' to show their affection for the manager who brought stability, ambition and a serious attempt to break the stranglehold of the big four clubs to Tottenham. As far as they were concerned, Jol was a living legend, who walked on water.
Then came the bombshell. After two successive fifth place Premier League finishes, but a poor start to the new season, in August 2007 Tottenham's board declared that Jol was on borrowed time. An outcry followed, not only from Spurs fans, but from football supporters in general, who leapt to the defence of the genial Dutchman. Amid all the recrimination and intrigue, Harry Harris followed every twist and turn, with exclusive access to Jol himself as he revealed his inner-most thoughts on his turbulent time at Spurs, his managerial techniques, his childhood in rural Holland, his fondness for Clacton-on-Sea and his passion for art. He also discusses how he once turned down Alex Ferguson, a unique insight into his managerial motivational techniques, his love of Kafka and Hemingway - and an incredible story of international smuggling!
He has joined according to Wikipedia. Welcome Martin -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Jol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Jol)
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Maybe Mr Jol will bring in Steeeed and Edgar Davids??
I Love Martin Jol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfQY6d1tAE#)
Jol would be a good appointment, I joked about this on another thread when Woy left. A solid manager IMO. Thank God we don't have people like Sanchez in the offing anymore.
Make it a 3 year rolling contract and I'll be happy,i don't want to lose another manager when the so called"big teams" come knocking,apart from that I'm happy will Big Martin-good manager,not a big head look at me type of manager, comes across as a guy you would like to have a beer with :sir_roy: if it's true, it's a result :clap_hands: :clap_hands: :clap_hands:
Martin Jol = thumbs up
Along the line of rolling contracts......can anyone clarify the reasoning for the 12 month rolling contract that Fulham seem to prefer?
I wasn't aware of it prior to Hodgson's appointment, but now it seems the norm for us. Just seems to encourage the temporary nature of the managerial position when I would think we'd desire consistency over a long term.
Jol :045: :045: :045: :045: :045: :045: :045:
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on July 15, 2010, 08:48:35 PM
Along the line of rolling contracts......can anyone clarify the reasoning for the 12 month rolling contract that Fulham seem to prefer?
I wasn't aware of it prior to Hodgson's appointment, but now it seems the norm for us. Just seems to encourage the temporary nature of the managerial position when I would think we'd desire consistency over a long term.
Simply put, if we were to sign Jol or whoever on a five year deal worth £1 million a year, it would cost us £4 million to get him to leave at the end of his first season if we were unhappy with him (if he got us relegated, for example). On a rolling year long contract the manager has some job security (every morning he effectively has a contract for the next 365 days) but, should we flirt with relegation, the club can dispense ith his services by paying him a year's salary (£1 million in the above example).
Similarly, if the manager decides he wants to go to fresh pastures, we get compensation as he is still under contract to us (every morning we have him as our boss for the next 365 days), so, as in Roy's case, Liverpool had to cough up for us to release him.
It gives a degree of stability to both parties without risking the sort of thing Liverpool faced when they wanted rid of their previous gaffer, only to balk at the potential cost. The bastards.
Wow. Can't say I saw this coming.
My only worry about Jol is that he'll leave in a years time.
Since being forced out at Spurs, he took Hamburg to first place for a little bit in a year that Bayern dominated. Last year Ajax were extremely close to a Eredivise title but did manage to set a scoring record (I think like 120 goals or so).
I thought Jol did a good job at Spurs and was shafted by their incredibly idiotic board. I don't believe ANYTHING ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT FULHAM MANAGER CANDIDATES, but I'm cool with Jol if that's what it is.
Martin Jol..... yeah I can live with that.......always enjoyed his frank interviews and his playing style. Seem a good honest fella and inherits a pretty good squad.
Will be very interested in his incoming picks and to see if our style of play changes quickly (or not). He will need to get to grip with the squad pretty sharpish so.... come back for an opinion update after the busy Christmas fixture train smash.
IF IT'S YOU ??? - WELCOME MATE :clap_hands: :clap_hands:
I like JOL..
Plus i can do a good JOL impression.. which will boost me socailly in the pubs before and after games...
I need all the help i can get.. believe me!
Quote from: timmyg on July 15, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
but did manage to set a scoring record (I think like 120 goals or so).
106.
106:20 / +86
Nevertheless, impressive.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 15, 2010, 10:57:08 PM
Quote from: timmyg on July 15, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
but did manage to set a scoring record (I think like 120 goals or so).
106.
106:20 / +86
Nevertheless, impressive.
At least we'll see a change from Roy's quite conservative (and dare i say it, often dull) tactics, particularly at away games. Maybe 3 up top? (Bobby, Gera, Dempsey)?
Mr. Fulham, did you contact mention anything about Jol being appointed or is this news to you too?
Quote from: Brede Butter Pudding on July 15, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Mr. Fulham, did you contact mention anything about Jol being appointed or is this news to you too?
Completely new. My problem is, that Fulham only works together with that agency in player-transfer-matters.
In terms of Fulham's managerial search, they are working with another agency.
Liverpool for example worked with that agency where I get my news from.
If we've managed to avoid the SGE hype/media circus/early farewell ....then I'm well pleased....and I can think of others far worse than Jol.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on July 15, 2010, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Brede Butter Pudding on July 15, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Mr. Fulham, did you contact mention anything about Jol being appointed or is this news to you too?
Completely new. My problem is, that Fulham only works together with that agency in player-transfer-matters.
In terms of Fulham's managerial search, they are working with another agency.
Liverpool for example worked with that agency where I get my news from.
Ah I see, fair enough, if you hear anything else from your end please let us know.
Quote from: Brede Butter Pudding on July 15, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Ah I see, fair enough, if you hear anything else from your end please let us know.
But of course.
Jones is now 2nd favourite to Jol on Betfair, with the dreadful Swede drifting in the betting.
I give you, Martin Jol....
(http://www.24-7simpsons.com/superintendent%20chalmers.jpg)
Jols Record at Tottenham
Played Won Drew Lost Win %
Tottenham Hotspur 5 November 2004 25 October 2007 148 67 38 43 45.27
I'd personally be dissapointed given who else has been up for the job if Jol got it. Hughesy, Eriksson and Hitzfeld were all preferred options for me and I am not at all enamoured with Jol. Yes he got Tottenham to 5th two seasons running but even in those two seasons there were signs of struggling and also the need for financial investment.
In Hitzfeld, Erikkson and Hughes I saw grounded managers who were ambitious / respected and dealt very well (in comparison to most) int he transfer market. Eriksson and Hitzfeld had also accomplished a lot in their managerial careers which excited me as it proved they had the nous and experience to achieve winning results - which having got to the Europa League final is what I was hoping we'd progress to.
Jol for me is a bit too unambitious for me. He's been in England - never set the world alight and needed funds to buy players he could work with. There were periods of unrest in the Totteham camp too when he was around and you don't get fired from your job like he did for no reason. I'd be ever so slightly gutted if he came basically! :dft006:
I like Jol and thought he did a nice job at Spurts despite getting stuck with odd front office deals. Plus he won't play for a 0-0 result on the road. His teams press the action and also defend well. Sounds like a good combination to me. :045:
he looks like one mean mutha who would head butt Fergie just for the craik
Quote from: Tktd on July 16, 2010, 12:25:44 AM
Jols Record at Tottenham
Played Won Drew Lost Win %
Tottenham Hotspur 5 November 2004 25 October 2007 148 67 38 43 45.27
I'd personally be dissapointed given who else has been up for the job if Jol got it. Hughesy, Eriksson and Hitzfeld were all preferred options for me and I am not at all enamoured with Jol. Yes he got Tottenham to 5th two seasons running but even in those two seasons there were signs of struggling and also the need for financial investment.
In Hitzfeld, Erikkson and Hughes I saw grounded managers who were ambitious / respected and dealt very well (in comparison to most) int he transfer market. Eriksson and Hitzfeld had also accomplished a lot in their managerial careers which excited me as it proved they had the nous and experience to achieve winning results - which having got to the Europa League final is what I was hoping we'd progress to.
Jol for me is a bit too unambitious for me. He's been in England - never set the world alight and needed funds to buy players he could work with. There were periods of unrest in the Totteham camp too when he was around and you don't get fired from your job like he did for no reason. I'd be ever so slightly gutted if he came basically! :dft006:
I am sorry, but Martin Jol is a much better manager than Hughes. Hitzfeld is obviously the best manager, and Sven has won a lot previously but I would be delighted if Jol came.
He got fired because the Tottenham board were unhappy that they didnt break into the top 4, even though they finished 5th in consecutive seasons incl. the dodgny lasagne season. They were undermining him and when he left there was uproar from both the fans and the players. Remember, after he left Ramos came in and nearly got the club relegated! He did not have the astronomical budget that Harry Redknapp has had so had to be more creative with his signings. I think you need to get your facts straight.
As for not setting the premiership alight, anyone who has done that surely would be unavailable to Fulham?
I too would be happy with MJ. He, like RH, has a point to prove in the premiership (spurs treated him abysmally) and if he is to be our manager, I think that MAF has pulled another goody out of the hat.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 15, 2010, 11:51:50 PM
I give you, Martin Jol....
(http://www.24-7simpsons.com/superintendent%20chalmers.jpg)
If he does come, I think you just coined his nickname there Mr E......
Let's hope that if he does come, he is an "
Awayer" as well...........We need more points on the road.....
I know this is a lot to ask, but would someone do a summary of Jol the manager? Style? strengths? weaknesses? Ability to attract players?
Reason I ask is I know nothing. I had heard of him but Ramos was coaching the Spurs and Sanchez the Whites when I started watching this league with interest. Thanks in advance.
Quote from: RidgeRider on July 16, 2010, 01:22:45 PM
I know this is a lot to ask, but would someone do a summary of Jol the manager? Style? strengths? weaknesses? Ability to attract players?
Reason I ask is I know nothing. I had heard of him but Ramos was coaching the Spurs and Sanchez the Whites when I started watching this league with interest. Thanks in advance.
His middle name is Cornelius!
Quote from: White Noise on July 15, 2010, 07:13:50 PM
I think Martin Jol is an appointment we can all get behind.
He is the wryest of managers, humble - shy almost, loved by the ladies, respected by his players and fellow coaches and much missed by Mrs Noise who can now enjoy my Martin Jol impressions again on a regular basis.
He also looked funnier with hair than without and can put out fires with his nose -
(http://www.11freunde.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/pixa_15057.jpg)
"I think Martin Jol is an appointment we can all get behind".
I think it would be a bl**dy good idea to get behind him, I wouldn't fancy being in front of him and taking any chances of a blast from that nose!!
I Love Martin Jol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfQY6d1tAE#)
BBC reckons it's between Jol and Sven, I'd far rather have Jol.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/16/fulham-martin-jol
Martin Jol in the frame for Fulham post
• Decision on Dutchman's future unlikely before next week
• Ajax manager was in charge at Tottenham for three years
Stuart James guardian.co.uk, Friday 16 July 2010 20.47
Martin Jol is understood to have held talks with Fulham about the vacant managerial position at Craven Cottage, although the Dutchman is unlikely to make a decision until after the weekend.
The prospect of working in England again would appeal to Jol, who spent three years in charge of Tottenham Hotspur before he was sacked in October 2007. Later that year he was linked with the Fulham job, as a replacement for Lawrie Sanchez, but he withdrew his interest and eventually took over at Hamburg. He moved on to Ajax last season.
After the departure of Roy Hodgson to Liverpool, Fulham are keen to have a new manager in place as soon as possible. Jol is believed to be the frontrunner for the position although there are doubts about whether Fulham would be able to satisfy his financial demands as well as his ambitions. He earns about ¤3m (£2.5m) a year at Ajax and Fulham would almost certainly need to match that salary. Jol would also require assurances about the funds he would be given to improve the team.
There seems little prospect that he will be able to strengthen the Ajax squad this summer, with the Dutch club experiencing financial difficulties. Raymond van der Wiel, the Holland right-back at the World Cup, is set to join Bayern Munich for a fee in the region of ¤17m but Jol will have little of that money to spend. Other decisions about players he wishes to keep have been taken out of his hands.
Sources close to Jol, however, suggest he could still decide to stay on at Ajax and keep his options open in the hope that a more appealing job might come along. There have been rumours that an opportunity at Newcastle United, working with Chris Hughton, his former assistant at Spurs, could arise.
I'm reasonably sure it will be Jol :dft012: . Though i wouldn't put your house on it just yet.
