There was speculation that we would let Ruiz go on a free after he accepted that he would have to remain here for the rest of the season. However, there was a option 1 year extension in his contract, which we activated. We are now demanding £4.3m for him, which has deterred most interested clubs.
Hopefully we can persuade him to stay, he would be an integral part of our squad.
Right, ok
Did we activate the extra year? I heard nothing about that
The wages we pay him would be so much more useful going to a player who would be effective at this level.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on May 14, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
Did we activate the extra year? I heard nothing about that
Heard nothing!
That's nothing new from our club.
Khan getting greedy.
The lad wants to go and in all honest he is probably better suited to continental football. We are, in essence, standing in his way. That said I would argue he is worth £4.3m of anyone's money.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on May 14, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Khan getting greedy.
The lad wants to go and in all honest he is probably better suited to continental football. We are, in essence, standing in his way. That said I would argue he is worth £4.3m of anyone's money.
It seems all other interested clubs are voting on his worth with their wallets. The market is the best fixer of value. I think it could go rather lower before offers were coaxed out of those parties too.
You're quite right of course; he is only worth what someone is going to pay for him.
I hope for his sake he gets a deal at a top flight club in Holland or Portugal or Italy maybe. I reckon he'd do very well there. Perhaps the physicality of the English game was what never suited him.
Not only physicality. Pace and the ability to control the ball quickly found him out in the Prem and in the Championship.
Like him, but don't want him to stay. To use him in a way that benefits his skills and the team, Fulham are forced to play with him just behind the striker(s) which either means playing narrow (diamond) or playing a lone striker.
I can understand not wanting to give him away, but any offer should be accepted.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on May 14, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Khan getting greedy.
The lad wants to go and in all honest he is probably better suited to continental football. We are, in essence, standing in his way. That said I would argue he is worth £4.3m of anyone's money.
Don't know that it's necessarily "greed". Bryan and his agent left that door open for the club. The club, like any other business, would rather get something for their asset than nothing. Just that - business. Hopefully Bryan is not naive enough to be surprised by it.
He can fund 1 or two quality signings with that money plus his wages. We have to make the most of every little advantage we can find.
I'd agree that he's worth that money to the "right" club and league. But, I'd bet we have a number in mind that is less than that 4.3 that will set him free. Someone will come along to offer it.
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
Not only physicality. Pace and the ability to control the ball quickly found him out in the Prem and in the Championship.
Ball control is his best asset. I'm sorry, you have no clue what you're on about.
Is this story correct then? Link?
Quote from: Pie and mash on May 14, 2015, 04:24:52 PM
Is this story correct then? Link?
No confirmation, but there is 100% a clause in his contract.
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
No confirmation, but there is 100% a clause in his contract.
I'm aware, where did you get this from though:
"there was a option 1 year extension in his contract, which we activated. We are now demanding £4.3m for him, which has deterred most interested clubs".Thin air?
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
Not only physicality. Pace and the ability to control the ball quickly found him out in the Prem and in the Championship.
Ball control is his best asset. I'm sorry, you have no clue what you're on about.
I thought defense spitting passes, and creativity were why he was in the team, any old poacher can trap a ball
After his treatment in the summer, and the way his loan move in January collapsed, I'd be very disappointed in the club if they decided unilaterally to activate the clause in an attempt to get a bit of money for him.
I like him as a player, but it hasn't worked out and it likely won't. No point in keeping him around when he wants to leave and we were open to him effectively leaving for free in January.
Quote from: Pie and mash on May 14, 2015, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
No confirmation, but there is 100% a clause in his contract.
I'm aware, where did you get this from though:
"there was a option 1 year extension in his contract, which we activated. We are now demanding £4.3m for him, which has deterred most interested clubs".
Thin air?
Reports from Portugal, as Sporting have pulled out from signing him because of this.
so other clubs can sell their players and try to get a decent profit yet we can't.
Keep him in the club.....he can be miserable like the rest of us
it silly because if we have extended it his wages will have to be at least the same as this season just gone and also if we fail to sell this highly in demand world cup star we will have an unhappy player who can only play in one position in one formation.
He desperately wants to go ......nobody will buy him though
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 06:06:14 PM
Quote from: Pie and mash on May 14, 2015, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
No confirmation, but there is 100% a clause in his contract.
I'm aware, where did you get this from though:
"there was a option 1 year extension in his contract, which we activated. We are now demanding £4.3m for him, which has deterred most interested clubs".
Thin air?
Reports from Portugal, as Sporting have pulled out from signing him because of this.
Got a link?
Feel sorry for the lad as things have not gone the way he would of liked for his career. Hope he gets things sorted out and finds himself in a situation he both wants and can produce in.
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Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
Not only physicality. Pace and the ability to control the ball quickly found him out in the Prem and in the Championship.
Ball control is his best asset. I'm sorry, you have no clue what you're on about.
No, it's you who have no clue what I'm on about. He gets robbed of the ball too often because of his lack of ability in controlling the ball quickly.
Quote from: love4ffc on May 14, 2015, 07:57:57 PM
Feel sorry for the lad as things have not gone the way he would of liked for his career. Hope he gets things sorted out and finds himself in a situation he both wants and can produce in.
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I feel for both Bryan, the club and it's supporters. It has not gone well enough for any of us.
From his personal website http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/ (http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/)
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
Not only physicality. Pace and the ability to control the ball quickly found him out in the Prem and in the Championship.
Ball control is his best asset. I'm sorry, you have no clue what you're on about.
No, it's you who have no clue what I'm on about. He gets robbed of the ball too often because of his lack of ability in controlling the ball quickly.
When you consider he has won 110+ ground duels (most out of any offensive player), and has been fouled over 40 times, I'd say he's doing it right.
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 15, 2015, 01:30:02 AM
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 14, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: ron on May 14, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
Not only physicality. Pace and the ability to control the ball quickly found him out in the Prem and in the Championship.
Ball control is his best asset. I'm sorry, you have no clue what you're on about.
No, it's you who have no clue what I'm on about. He gets robbed of the ball too often because of his lack of ability in controlling the ball quickly.
When you consider he has won 110+ ground duels (most out of any offensive player), and has been fouled over 40 times, I'd say he's doing it right.
Ah, facts. Stubborn things. So much easier to just call him a wimp.
Here's the link for you all. From Bryans official website.
Bryan Ruiz conoció este jueves por parte del club Fulham que harán efectiva la opción de renovación de un año que tenían a favor en el contrato, por lo que el capitán costarricense seguirá ligado al club inglés hasta junio del 2016.
Bryan aseguró que ante esta decisión que tomó el Fulham no desmaya porque confía en que este club pueda negociar con equipos que se interesen por él durante ventana de transferencias, que inicia en junio y termina en agosto, para volver a la Primera División en Europa u otro continente.
Por otro lado, el jugador tico mostró su complacencia por la incorporación que tuvo este jueves a la Selección Nacional para la Copa de Oro.
http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/ (http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/)
He signed a contract. We have the right to tack on another year to sell for a profit, why not? And if we can't sell, he remains on our books and continues to play.
Football is a business.
This whole thing is beginning to turn into a television show.
i reckon a 4-2-3-1 formation would suit Bryan, but we will sell him over the summer.
If kit stays AND Ruiz stays I think I'll have a heart attack. I don't think I can take it seriously
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 15, 2015, 01:24:03 AM
From his personal website http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/ (http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/)
Thanks, gonna get the Colombian bird at work to translate it for me when she gets in
Dempsey, ruiz and dembele playing together is still the best I've seen us going forward, we were unplayable at times. We really do need to sell him as he is clearly unhappy but I wouldn't be upset if he agrees to one more season with us, and is happy to do so. However, keeping a player against his wishes is an awful idea.
Quote from: Pie and mash on May 15, 2015, 08:17:16 AM
Quote from: J.Perkins on May 15, 2015, 01:24:03 AM
From his personal website http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/ (http://www.bryanruizcr.com/es/noticia/video-bryan-no-desmaya-en-su-deseo-de-negociar-con-otro-club/)
Thanks, gonna get the Colombian bird at work to translate it for me when she gets in
Bryan Ruiz met Thursday by Fulham club that will effectively a renewal option of one year were for in the contract, so the Costa Rican captain continue to be linked to the English club until June 2016.
Bryan said that with this decision by the Fulham not faint because confident that this club can negotiate with teams that are interested in him during the transfer window, which starts in June and ends in August, to return to the First Division in Europe or another continent.
On the other hand, the player tico showed his satisfaction at the incorporation held on Thursday at the National Team to the Gold Cup.
He's like a bad penny you just can't get rid of.
I hope Bryan leaves and does well I feel that he is a very nice bloke
but I do not get the people on here who rave over him
he was brought for 10 million and is now worth only about 3(if we are lucky)
how many times would anyone say he has been our man of the match ( no many if we are being honest)
we got suckered by TV pundits at the world cup going on about how fantastic he played (I thought he played well but not great)
we seem to crucify kids that cost us very little but rave about Bryan who if we are all being honest did not live up to his price tag
still hope he moves on and does well as I said earlier i feel he is a decent honest bloke
Good business FFC, sign him up and sell him on. Makes perfect sense, that's how football's run. I'm sure we'll get a couple of mil for him.
I hope he stays, but it would have been madness to not extend his contract with a view of getting a few quid. Sure it may not work - no-one may want to pay £3M or so and we may have to drop the price - and we can still of course let him go for a free at the end of the window.
Makes (business) sense.
Yes he played last year under a contract he signed despite a couple of escape attempts. Now we keep him when he clearly wants our and was on his way, yet people still think he's going to be ok with that. I just don't get it, I'd be right pissed off if I was him.
This is all crazy
he has not performed for us
he wants to leave
let us gt what we can and wish him well elsewhere
And for hopefully the last time.... I cannot begin to see what people see in such an obvious liability of a player. he rarely influences a game, the odd pass here here and there on the plus verses the vast times he wastes the ball, loses or gets muscled out of possession. he is part of the problem we have, he takes a place that is better used by somebody else.
this morning its been comfirmed by the club.
Got to see the positives in this.
- Bryan goes we get £4.3m for a player in his last year of his contract, something we wouldn't have got if we had let him go before activating the deal.
- If we can't find a party that would stump up the cash, then we keep a key player for our squad. Love or hate him, he influences game.
Quote from: Chutney on May 15, 2015, 08:20:27 AM
Dempsey, ruiz and dembele playing together is still the best I've seen us going forward, we were unplayable at times. We really do need to sell him as he is clearly unhappy but I wouldn't be upset if he agrees to one more season with us, and is happy to do so. However, keeping a player against his wishes is an awful idea.
Ruiz' understanding with Dempsey was almost telepathic at times
Oh, for the lost days of mid-table mediocrity...
Quote from: Holders on May 15, 2015, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Chutney on May 15, 2015, 08:20:27 AM
Dempsey, ruiz and dembele playing together is still the best I've seen us going forward, we were unplayable at times. We really do need to sell him as he is clearly unhappy but I wouldn't be upset if he agrees to one more season with us, and is happy to do so. However, keeping a player against his wishes is an awful idea.
Ruiz' understanding with Dempsey was almost telepathic at times
Oh, for the lost days of mid-table mediocrity...
Before we all condemn the decision to retain him, or assume it is only a tactic to get a transfer fee, I think we should see who we sign this summer. Ruiz has played well for us in with the right players around him, Dempsey is a good example.
However, if we don't sign players who will get the best out of him then for goodness sake sell him for a couple of mil and end the saga.
