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Title: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: intertoto2002fulham on June 29, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
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Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Lighthouse on June 29, 2015, 03:12:29 PM
Already mentioned on the transfers silly season page. There is a long way from training to being signed. But it can't be a bad sign.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: General on June 29, 2015, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back

who cares. People change you know and there's nothing wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: jelmo on June 29, 2015, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: General on June 29, 2015, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back

who cares. People change you know and there's nothing wrong with that at all.

Also... Most people on this forum have slagged Fulham off over the past couple of years. Probably more so than O'Hara (if he did slag Fulham off that is!)
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: jelmo on June 29, 2015, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: General on June 29, 2015, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back

who cares. People change you know and there's nothing wrong with that at all.

Also... Most people on this forum have slagged Fulham off over the past couple of years. Probably more so than O'Hara (if he did slag Fulham off that is!)
got to love fulham, lots on here cant wait to get rid of roberts, because he apprantly doesnt want to be here, but a player who slagged us off is welcomed with opened arms.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: leonffc on June 29, 2015, 05:19:59 PM
Quote from: jelmo on June 29, 2015, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: General on June 29, 2015, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back

who cares. People change you know and there's nothing wrong with that at all.

Also... Most people on this forum have slagged Fulham off over the past couple of years. Probably more so than O'Hara (if he did slag Fulham off that is!)

I slag Fulham off nearly every week. More so on those long train journeys back from away games!!

He's never really lived up to his potential but I think he had a bad back injury? Anyway, didn't he have a really good season in a struggling Blackpool side last year?
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Fulham76 on June 29, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
Hopefully he's with us purely to get fit. He's not the sort of player that will help us push for promotion!
He's never set the world alight at any of his previous clubs & barely plays more than a handful of games wherever he's been for some reason.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:25:37 PM
He had the fourth highest key passes and assists per minutes/games played last year, playing in 27 games having only joined in November.  That's not bad in a team that was in as big a shambles as Blackpool were last season.

The same stats in the PL would have had in fourth and fifth in key passes and assists respectively too.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Jack Fulham on June 29, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIaeMInUYAA9Sj5.png)

From @cwormbridge on twitter.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Fulham76 on June 29, 2015, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on June 29, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIaeMInUYAA9Sj5.png)

From @cwormbridge on twitter.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:25:37 PM
He had the fourth highest key passes and assists per minutes/games played last year, playing in 27 games having only joined in November.  That's not bad in a team that was in as big a shambles as Blackpool were last season.

The same stats in the PL would have had in fourth and fifth in key passes and assists respectively too.

I wouldn't have thought it would be too difficult to stand out in that team!

As for the comment about similar stats in the PL.... He wouldn't get in to any PL teams, that's why he was in the championship, and for a struggling club in a complete mess.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Well, placing fourth in the LEAGUE shows him standing out in the league.  If he was the best at Blackpool and the 100 best in the league, that might have been a valid point.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 29, 2015, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on June 29, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIaeMInUYAA9Sj5.png)

From @cwormbridge on twitter.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:25:37 PM
He had the fourth highest key passes and assists per minutes/games played last year, playing in 27 games having only joined in November.  That's not bad in a team that was in as big a shambles as Blackpool were last season.

The same stats in the PL would have had in fourth and fifth in key passes and assists respectively too.

I wouldn't have thought it would be too difficult to stand out in that team!

As for the comment about similar stats in the PL.... He wouldn't get in to any PL teams, that's why he was in the championship, and for a struggling club in a complete mess.
its up there with the ole he played well against us last year, yes well so did over two hundred other players
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: leonffc on June 29, 2015, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Well, placing fourth in the LEAGUE shows him standing out in the league.  If he was the best at Blackpool and the 100 best in the league, that might have been a valid point.

Exactly!! How many players struggled to shine in our shower of shite last year?!
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Fulham76 on June 29, 2015, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Well, placing fourth in the LEAGUE shows him standing out in the league.  If he was the best at Blackpool and the 100 best in the league, that might have been a valid point.

Did you ever look on the official website after each of our defeats last season? They were constantly trying to tell us that the stats proved we actually played quite well, (bournemouth was the funniest one for me), where in fact we rarely played well.
I'm not saying O'Hara didn't play well for Blackpool but stats can be presented in a way to suit most arguments.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: leonffc on June 29, 2015, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 29, 2015, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Well, placing fourth in the LEAGUE shows him standing out in the league.  If he was the best at Blackpool and the 100 best in the league, that might have been a valid point.

Did you ever look on the official website after each of our defeats last season? They were constantly trying to tell us that the stats proved we actually played quite well, (bournemouth was the funniest one for me), where in fact we rarely played well.
I'm not saying O'Hara didn't play well for Blackpool but stats can be presented in a way to suit most arguments.

Lol. I struggled to go in any form of media after most of our games.
Maybe they used those stats to give Kit the job because I thought we were papering over cracks for England during his trial period (but concede his results earned him a chance before everyone steams in - just not my choice on actual performances)

TBH, Ohara, Pringle, Cairney. I'm nonplussed, I don't know enough about them to be excited or disappointed about them. I'm just going to wait until the season starts before I make judgement.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: leonffc on June 29, 2015, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on June 29, 2015, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on June 29, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Well, placing fourth in the LEAGUE shows him standing out in the league.  If he was the best at Blackpool and the 100 best in the league, that might have been a valid point.

Did you ever look on the official website after each of our defeats last season? They were constantly trying to tell us that the stats proved we actually played quite well, (bournemouth was the funniest one for me), where in fact we rarely played well.
I'm not saying O'Hara didn't play well for Blackpool but stats can be presented in a way to suit most arguments.

Lol. I struggled to go in any form of media after most of our games.
Maybe they used those stats to give Kit the job because I thought we were papering over cracks for England during his trial period (but concede his results earned him a chance before everyone steams in - just not my choice on actual performances)

TBH, Ohara, Pringle, Cairney. I'm nonplussed, I don't know enough about them to be excited or disappointed about them. I'm just going to wait until the season starts before I make judgement.
i hear that. dont think i read a sunday paper once, or watched the highlight show last season. terrible football will do that to you
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: McBride78 on June 29, 2015, 05:53:14 PM
If there is a positive that we can all take from this it is that the club is discretely active.  We find out this guy is training with us from photos.  That is a good indicator that there is a lot of activity out there that may not have made it to the rumor mill yet.  Let's hope so. 
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Wimbledon_White on June 29, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back

what did he say?
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 06:31:18 PM
One name comes to mind when discussing Jamie O'Hara - Lewis Holtby.

When in the mood, run about tirelessly albiet rather aimlessly like a headless chicken - the apparent enthusiasm warms fans over intitially until they see Holtby/O'Hara flatter to deceive.

Soon same player loses motivation yet insists on being picked for the first team and become a bad influence in the dressing room as BOTH players were.  And I am referring to O'Hara in his prime, not this out-of-form unwanted under-achieving layabout.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Tonywa on June 29, 2015, 06:33:07 PM
Honestly don't know what to make of some on this board. First they're eager for us to get rid of our more skilful players like Ruiz and Pat Roberts and fill the team with players who have experience at this level because they want players who run  round like headless chickens. When  we start doing that ( and with some of the better talents at this level into the bargain) they start moaning because (a) were should show ,more ambition (b) Because they don't like the players concerned or (c) Because they've never heard of them or don't care one way or another.  Now I've done my share of moaning in the last couple of years, but come on guys at least we have some transfer activity when a couple of weeks ago we were getting the annual late June gripe that we had not yet signed anyone.  Seems that they can't please any of the people any of the time at present.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: jelmo on June 29, 2015, 06:40:25 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: jelmo on June 29, 2015, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: General on June 29, 2015, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
didnt he slag us off a few years back

who cares. People change you know and there's nothing wrong with that at all.

Also... Most people on this forum have slagged Fulham off over the past couple of years. Probably more so than O'Hara (if he did slag Fulham off that is!)
got to love fulham, lots on here cant wait to get rid of roberts, because he apprantly doesnt want to be here, but a player who slagged us off is welcomed with opened arms.

sounds like you can't even remember the details of this horrific insult that he threw Fulham's way. surely it couldn't have been that bad???? Did he diss fulham's mum?
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
Headless chicken now the shape and size of a turkey - why would any progressive side want this castaway not even Wolves wanted?!?

(http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/webimage/1.7313373.1434530185!/image/1974196944.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/1974196944.jpg)
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: leonffc on June 29, 2015, 08:10:20 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on June 29, 2015, 06:33:07 PM
Honestly don't know what to make of some on this board. First they're eager for us to get rid of our more skilful players like Ruiz and Pat Roberts and fill the team with players who have experience at this level because they want players who run  round like headless chickens. When  we start doing that ( and with some of the better talents at this level into the bargain) they start moaning because (a) were should show ,more ambition (b) Because they don't like the players concerned or (c) Because they've never heard of them or don't care one way or another.  Now I've done my share of moaning in the last couple of years, but come on guys at least we have some transfer activity when a couple of weeks ago we were getting the annual late June gripe that we had not yet signed anyone.  Seems that they can't please any of the people any of the time at present.

I was totally agreeing with this until (c) which seems to dig at what I wrote. If it is, I'd just like to clarify;
I don't know enough about them so I'm neither nonplussed nor excited. IE. I'm not slagging anyone off because I don't know enough about them so until I've judged them for myself over a few games, I'll give them a chance. I don't think you can get much fairer than that!!

Otherwise, good post Tony :)
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: McBride78 on June 29, 2015, 08:58:11 PM
Since Aaron Ramsey or Jordan Henderson, or any other host of top shelf midfielders are not on our payroll, what is the problem with this guy training with us and possibly signing if we deem him valuable enough?  Was productive last year.  Exactly what level of ambition is appropriate for our club and how much money does one think we have?  As for Wolves not wanting him, according to the table they are a better squad than us by 10 places and around 26 points or so.  To close that gap we need players, and frankly I dont care what shape they are if they improve the squad....turkey, chicken, duck.  Just come in, work hard, challenge existing players to up their game as well. 

I am also fine with keeping Ruiz, Mitro, and Roberts if it is deemed the way to advance the club.  Especially Roberts.  However, if Ruiz and Mitro are not in the plans, then ship them out and reinvest the money.   
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: fulhamben on June 29, 2015, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: McBride78 on June 29, 2015, 08:58:11 PM
Since Aaron Ramsey or Jordan Henderson, or any other host of top shelf midfielders are not on our payroll, what is the problem with this guy training with us and possibly signing if we deem him valuable enough?  Was productive last year.  Exactly what level of ambition is appropriate for our club and how much money does one think we have?  As for Wolves not wanting him, according to the table they are a better squad than us by 10 places and around 26 points or so.  To close that gap we need players, and frankly I dont care what shape they are if they improve the squad....turkey, chicken, duck.  Just come in, work hard, challenge existing players to up their game as well. 

I am also fine with keeping Ruiz, Mitro, and Roberts if it is deemed the way to advance the club.  Especially Roberts.  However, if Ruiz and Mitro are not in the plans, then ship them out and reinvest the money.   
wolves dumped him when they were in the third division.
Title: Re:
Post by: MJG on June 29, 2015, 09:31:26 PM
He lost his way at Wolves big time for a number of reasons. And I'll be the first to joke about his weight and everything like that.
But he went to Blackpool,  played well and now he looks fit,  so up to him.
Title: Re:
Post by: Supermitch on June 29, 2015, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 29, 2015, 09:31:26 PM
He list his way at Wolves big time for a number of reasons. And I'll be the first to joke about his weight and everything like that.
But he went to Blackpool,  played well and now he looks fit,  so up to him.

In the game at Bloomfield Road on the beach of a pitch he was by far the best player on the pitch.  Not saying a lot given the poor quality of that game.  As stated here though he's getting fit and up to him.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: YoungsBitter on June 30, 2015, 12:22:37 AM
Reading up his background he has had some bad injuries at crucial times, back at Spurs then hammy/groin at Wolves. He was a big signing for Wolves on Prem wages and when finally fit after the hammy groin saga Wolves were in League 1 so not surprising that Jackett didn't want him around. He is London born and bred so probably happy to be back south. If he can reproduce the stats he did at Blackpool without a signing fee it sounds like good business for us. With his injuries and a recent presumably expensive divorce he probably is both a bit more humble and needs a good contract so this could be good depth option for us to share minutes with Parker and Hindeman. He will be 29 in September so his maturity balances some of the 21-24 year olds.
I cannot understand why we would be skeptical of this as he is only training, if he works out and gets on with everyone he gets signed, if not nothing lost.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: St Eve on June 30, 2015, 12:56:54 AM
Oh please. He was an ok player in his prime. This really is a step backwards.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: westcliff white on June 30, 2015, 08:53:08 AM
O'Hara for all his faults in the past isnt too bad a player. Signing him on a free would be far better than any of the following Fazlic, Fotheringham and Chihi from last season
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Chutney on June 30, 2015, 10:36:38 AM
Ohara would be a squad player and nothing more, and the less we pay for these types of players the better, on a free he would provide some depth.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
https://youtu.be/hJ-8vUQ6XAo   video from yesterdays training
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Pie and mash on June 30, 2015, 11:38:05 AM
No thanks, the only people that would do well out of this deal is the local McDonalds
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 30, 2015, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: Chutney on June 30, 2015, 10:36:38 AM
Ohara would be a squad player and nothing more, and the less we pay for these types of players the better, on a free he would provide some depth.

Have you seen the chart on page one? He is higher rated than either of cairney or pringle. He started as many games as cairney and scored one less than pringle with the same assists in ten or so games less. I'm not saying he is going to be our best player but he is definitely worth giving a go. Those stats were with Blackpool's weak squad around him. 
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Twig on June 30, 2015, 11:58:28 AM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 29, 2015, 06:31:18 PM
One name comes to mind when discussing Jamie O'Hara - Lewis Holtby.

When in the mood, run about tirelessly albiet rather aimlessly like a headless chicken - the apparent enthusiasm warms fans over intitially until they see Holtby/O'Hara flatter to deceive.

Soon same player loses motivation yet insists on being picked for the first team and become a bad influence in the dressing room as BOTH players were.  And I am referring to O'Hara in his prime, not this out-of-form unwanted under-achieving layabout.

Is this an analysis from the same "well informed" Nick who so spectacularly got egg on face with recent post concerning our failure to sign anyone other than two free transfers?  I'd rather rely on the analysis of Mike R, Kit and co thanks very much.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Jimmy Hill on June 30, 2015, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
https://youtu.be/hJ-8vUQ6XAo   video from yesterdays training

Is stafalidis in this video I thought he had jumped ship?
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: leonffc on June 30, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on June 30, 2015, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
https://youtu.be/hJ-8vUQ6XAo   video from yesterdays training

Is stafalidis in this video I thought he had jumped ship?

Think it's Vosser
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Jimmy Hill on June 30, 2015, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: leonffc on June 30, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on June 30, 2015, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 30, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
https://youtu.be/hJ-8vUQ6XAo   video from yesterdays training

Is stafalidis in this video I thought he had jumped ship?

Think it's Vosser

Yeah it is, someone else mentioned he is copying his haircut in another thread
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: jarv on June 30, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
Can Ohara play centre half? Seems like we still need one of those.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: FPT on June 30, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
I do think Jamie O'Hara would be a good signing, and would raise the idea that those who are not in favour are judging the man and not the player. His time at Wolves was mostly bad, affected by injuries and fitness, during which the club was relegated twice and he clashed with supporters. He's now away from Danielle Lloyd and his time at Blackpool spoke true volumes to me. His performances were sharp, and he looked like a player with a chip on his shoulder rather than in his stomach. He joined Blackpool with no pre-season, and essentially a year without regular football and assisted 8 goals for the divisions' poorest team, with a variety of types also; a few from set pieces, a few from crosses and a couple sheer creative passes.

David Cotterill has been one that others have pointed out as a possible option for us as an option out wide, he didn't out assist Jamie O'Hara. Peter Whittingham, Alex Pritchard, Bakary Sako, Ben Pringle, James McLean, Henri Lansbury, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes, Bryan Ruiz, Harry Arter, Jota etc, etc, etc, could not out-assist Jamie O'Hara, yet all of those players have been lauded as players that should be looked at joining us (barring those already here).

Jamie O'Hara provides us something we do not have, and it's a deep lying play maker that can add quality offensive depth to our central midfield options. If Tom Cairney or Lasse Vigen Christensen pick up an injury, it's Ryan Tunnicliffe who comes in and we lose a chunk of creativity and assurance on the ball. O'Hara has valuable Premier League game time to his name, particularly at Portsmouth where he was then eyed up by many on here to be a potential successor to Danny Murphy - there's no reason now, with a visible want to restart his career after leaving both Lloyd and Wolves, that he can still be that via a tonne of sideways movement.

Jamie O'Hara assisted more goals last season than he ever has in any other season. Nearly 29, he's in his peaking ages, and if we can take advantage of a re-motivated, fit and hungry footballer for a price of £0, then why wouldn't you? He's initially training so we can weigh up (no pun intended) his fitness levels and the management can learn about him personally.

The man may not be perfect (no Joey Barton though), but the player has bags of talent, and in particularly on the ball. If you look beyond the 'love rat', and analyse the situation where he's evidently in a good place personally and performance wise - a free transfer for a footballer with Premier League quality at an age where we could get a few years out of him if need be is an absolute no brainer.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: jelmo on June 30, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 30, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
I do think Jamie O'Hara would be a good signing, and would raise the idea that those who are not in favour are judging the man and not the player. His time at Wolves was mostly bad, affected by injuries and fitness, during which the club was relegated twice and he clashed with supporters. He's now away from Danielle Lloyd and his time at Blackpool spoke true volumes to me. His performances were sharp, and he looked like a player with a chip on his shoulder rather than in his stomach. He joined Blackpool with no pre-season, and essentially a year without regular football and assisted 8 goals for the divisions' poorest team, with a variety of types also; a few from set pieces, a few from crosses and a couple sheer creative passes.

David Cotterill has been one that others have pointed out as a possible option for us as an option out wide, he didn't out assist Jamie O'Hara. Peter Whittingham, Alex Pritchard, Bakary Sako, Ben Pringle, James McLean, Henri Lansbury, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes, Bryan Ruiz, Harry Arter, Jota etc, etc, etc, could not out-assist Jamie O'Hara, yet all of those players have been lauded as players that should be looked at joining us (barring those already here).

Jamie O'Hara provides us something we do not have, and it's a deep lying play maker that can add quality offensive depth to our central midfield options. If Tom Cairney or Lasse Vigen Christensen pick up an injury, it's Ryan Tunnicliffe who comes in and we lose a chunk of creativity and assurance on the ball. O'Hara has valuable Premier League game time to his name, particularly at Portsmouth where he was then eyed up by many on here to be a potential successor to Danny Murphy - there's no reason now, with a visible want to restart his career after leaving both Lloyd and Wolves, that he can still be that via a tonne of sideways movement.

Jamie O'Hara assisted more goals last season than he ever has in any other season. Nearly 29, he's in his peaking ages, and if we can take advantage of a re-motivated, fit and hungry footballer for a price of £0, then why wouldn't you? He's initially training so we can weigh up (no pun intended) his fitness levels and the management can learn about him personally.

The man may not be perfect (no Joey Barton though), but the player has bags of talent, and in particularly on the ball. If you look beyond the 'love rat', and analyse the situation where he's evidently in a good place personally and performance wise - a free transfer for a footballer with Premier League quality at an age where we could get a few years out of him if need be is an absolute no brainer.

Good post. Agree with all the points made. Didn't realise he was a love rat though! 096.gig
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Twig on June 30, 2015, 05:36:02 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 30, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
I do think Jamie O'Hara would be a good signing, and would raise the idea that those who are not in favour are judging the man and not the player. His time at Wolves was mostly bad, affected by injuries and fitness, during which the club was relegated twice and he clashed with supporters. He's now away from Danielle Lloyd and his time at Blackpool spoke true volumes to me. His performances were sharp, and he looked like a player with a chip on his shoulder rather than in his stomach. He joined Blackpool with no pre-season, and essentially a year without regular football and assisted 8 goals for the divisions' poorest team, with a variety of types also; a few from set pieces, a few from crosses and a couple sheer creative passes.

David Cotterill has been one that others have pointed out as a possible option for us as an option out wide, he didn't out assist Jamie O'Hara. Peter Whittingham, Alex Pritchard, Bakary Sako, Ben Pringle, James McLean, Henri Lansbury, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes, Bryan Ruiz, Harry Arter, Jota etc, etc, etc, could not out-assist Jamie O'Hara, yet all of those players have been lauded as players that should be looked at joining us (barring those already here).

Jamie O'Hara provides us something we do not have, and it's a deep lying play maker that can add quality offensive depth to our central midfield options. If Tom Cairney or Lasse Vigen Christensen pick up an injury, it's Ryan Tunnicliffe who comes in and we lose a chunk of creativity and assurance on the ball. O'Hara has valuable Premier League game time to his name, particularly at Portsmouth where he was then eyed up by many on here to be a potential successor to Danny Murphy - there's no reason now, with a visible want to restart his career after leaving both Lloyd and Wolves, that he can still be that via a tonne of sideways movement.

Jamie O'Hara assisted more goals last season than he ever has in any other season. Nearly 29, he's in his peaking ages, and if we can take advantage of a re-motivated, fit and hungry footballer for a price of £0, then why wouldn't you? He's initially training so we can weigh up (no pun intended) his fitness levels and the management can learn about him personally.

The man may not be perfect (no Joey Barton though), but the player has bags of talent, and in particularly on the ball. If you look beyond the 'love rat', and analyse the situation where he's evidently in a good place personally and performance wise - a free transfer for a footballer with Premier League quality at an age where we could get a few years out of him if need be is an absolute no brainer.

Very balanced and fair post.  Give the guy a chance to show what he can do seems a reasonable summary.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Nick Bateman on June 30, 2015, 05:44:47 PM
Why should we give him a chance?  We want better than Wolves "rejects" and I have a lot of insight into Jamie O'Hara from a Spurs contact who informed me of the disruption he caused and his subsequent lack of application when he left as one can clearly see in this photo.

The moment he gets benched he will cause disharmony in the squad.

(http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/webimage/1.7313373.1434530185!/image/1974196944.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/1974196944.jpg)
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: RaySmith on June 30, 2015, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 30, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
I do think Jamie O'Hara would be a good signing, and would raise the idea that those who are not in favour are judging the man and not the player. His time at Wolves was mostly bad, affected by injuries and fitness, during which the club was relegated twice and he clashed with supporters. He's now away from Danielle Lloyd and his time at Blackpool spoke true volumes to me. His performances were sharp, and he looked like a player with a chip on his shoulder rather than in his stomach. He joined Blackpool with no pre-season, and essentially a year without regular football and assisted 8 goals for the divisions' poorest team, with a variety of types also; a few from set pieces, a few from crosses and a couple sheer creative passes.

David Cotterill has been one that others have pointed out as a possible option for us as an option out wide, he didn't out assist Jamie O'Hara. Peter Whittingham, Alex Pritchard, Bakary Sako, Ben Pringle, James McLean, Henri Lansbury, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes, Bryan Ruiz, Harry Arter, Jota etc, etc, etc, could not out-assist Jamie O'Hara, yet all of those players have been lauded as players that should be looked at joining us (barring those already here).

Jamie O'Hara provides us something we do not have, and it's a deep lying play maker that can add quality offensive depth to our central midfield options. If Tom Cairney or Lasse Vigen Christensen pick up an injury, it's Ryan Tunnicliffe who comes in and we lose a chunk of creativity and assurance on the ball. O'Hara has valuable Premier League game time to his name, particularly at Portsmouth where he was then eyed up by many on here to be a potential successor to Danny Murphy - there's no reason now, with a visible want to restart his career after leaving both Lloyd and Wolves, that he can still be that via a tonne of sideways movement.

Jamie O'Hara assisted more goals last season than he ever has in any other season. Nearly 29, he's in his peaking ages, and if we can take advantage of a re-motivated, fit and hungry footballer for a price of £0, then why wouldn't you? He's initially training so we can weigh up (no pun intended) his fitness levels and the management can learn about him personally.

The man may not be perfect (no Joey Barton though), but the player has bags of talent, and in particularly on the ball. If you look beyond the 'love rat', and analyse the situation where he's evidently in a good place personally and performance wise - a free transfer for a footballer with Premier League quality at an age where we could get a few years out of him if need be is an absolute no brainer.
:plus one:
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Tonywa on June 30, 2015, 09:37:31 PM
Excellent post mate.  Very well argued. Seems to make sense to me.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Wimbledon_White on June 30, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
The fact this Nick Bateman chap is slating him only seems to make me want him to sign all the more.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Texas White on July 01, 2015, 12:34:08 AM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on June 30, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
The fact this Nick Bateman chap is slating him only seems to make me want him to sign all the more.

What our resident celebrity...
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: YoungsBitter on July 01, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
Quote from: jelmo on June 30, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: FPT on June 30, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
I do think Jamie O'Hara would be a good signing, and would raise the idea that those who are not in favour are judging the man and not the player. His time at Wolves was mostly bad, affected by injuries and fitness, during which the club was relegated twice and he clashed with supporters. He's now away from Danielle Lloyd and his time at Blackpool spoke true volumes to me. His performances were sharp, and he looked like a player with a chip on his shoulder rather than in his stomach. He joined Blackpool with no pre-season, and essentially a year without regular football and assisted 8 goals for the divisions' poorest team, with a variety of types also; a few from set pieces, a few from crosses and a couple sheer creative passes.

David Cotterill has been one that others have pointed out as a possible option for us as an option out wide, he didn't out assist Jamie O'Hara. Peter Whittingham, Alex Pritchard, Bakary Sako, Ben Pringle, James McLean, Henri Lansbury, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes, Bryan Ruiz, Harry Arter, Jota etc, etc, etc, could not out-assist Jamie O'Hara, yet all of those players have been lauded as players that should be looked at joining us (barring those already here).

Jamie O'Hara provides us something we do not have, and it's a deep lying play maker that can add quality offensive depth to our central midfield options. If Tom Cairney or Lasse Vigen Christensen pick up an injury, it's Ryan Tunnicliffe who comes in and we lose a chunk of creativity and assurance on the ball. O'Hara has valuable Premier League game time to his name, particularly at Portsmouth where he was then eyed up by many on here to be a potential successor to Danny Murphy - there's no reason now, with a visible want to restart his career after leaving both Lloyd and Wolves, that he can still be that via a tonne of sideways movement.

Jamie O'Hara assisted more goals last season than he ever has in any other season. Nearly 29, he's in his peaking ages, and if we can take advantage of a re-motivated, fit and hungry footballer for a price of £0, then why wouldn't you? He's initially training so we can weigh up (no pun intended) his fitness levels and the management can learn about him personally.

The man may not be perfect (no Joey Barton though), but the player has bags of talent, and in particularly on the ball. If you look beyond the 'love rat', and analyse the situation where he's evidently in a good place personally and performance wise - a free transfer for a footballer with Premier League quality at an age where we could get a few years out of him if need be is an absolute no brainer.

Good post. Agree with all the points made. Didn't realise he was a love rat though! 096.gig
Agree 100%, well thought through!
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: snarks on July 01, 2015, 12:14:43 PM
Agree with FPT Danielle Lloyd had a pretty bad effect on his career. He and she got together whilst he was at Spurs, and it was then his career started to nosedive. I remember reading something whilst he was at wolves, effectively saying that he was sleeping in the spare room, and looking after the kids, as she came in late from furthering her "career" and was disturbing him and it wasn't helping his recovery from injury.

Prior to meeting her his career was going quite well, and certainly whilst at Portsmouth (on loan from spurs) he was probably their best player for that season. Wolves was the wrong move, and as said riddled with injury and a wife that did him no favours at all.

Seperating and getting back to football, he could be a good signing for the club, he creative, good energy and good in tackle, with a high work rate. OK he has some baggage, but there are not many ex premiership players married to a "glamerous WAG2" that would not have, (and she has been around if you look at her history).
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Twig on July 01, 2015, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on June 30, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
The fact this Nick Bateman chap is slating him only seems to make me want him to sign all the more.

Haha one finds oneself in whole-hearted agreement with you.
Title: Re: Official: Jamie O'Hara training with us
Post by: Gloss White on July 01, 2015, 04:55:54 PM
Comes across well here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh5PnMl_Vjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh5PnMl_Vjo)