Hope Kit does some rotating and Kaca and Larnell Cole get a game against Wycombe.
Both looked lively in pre-season and deserve a chance.
Dembele and Hyndman must start. Our only chance of keeping them is to play them
Apart from his goal in pre-season, Kaca has never impressed me. Falls over easily, gets caught in possession, wasteful, etc. I hope he proves me wrong this season, we could do with good wide-men.
Having said that, Wycombe is a good opportunity for the lad and i hope Kit gives him a run-out.
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 09, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
Dembele and Hyndman must start. Our only chance of keeping them is to play them
100%. Glad to see Dembele yesterday getting more than the 2 minutes Pat Roberts got last season.
To me, Cole didn't look ready in pre-season - mentally slow on the ball - so I think he needs a loan or some cup appearances, but wouldn't want him near the team for league yet.
Kaca has always been too inconsistent for my liking, nor does he offer enough protection to the LB (and I reckon Voser, in particular, needs the help on the left). Plus, considering Pringle was instrumental in creating our goal, I can't see him being dropped for the Swede. I think I'd let him go if we got an offer of £1.5m+.
As for Dembele and Hyndman, I want them to stay, desperatly, but we can't hamper our [already slim] promotion chances by pandering to demanding youngsters. They're not currently as good as our first teamers and shouldn't be bumped up to a starting slot just to keep them happy. At best, they're 70/80-minute subs, but shouldn't be starting IMO.
Betts, Grimmer Hutch Bod Kav, Cairney Hyndman Matilla Kaca, Dembele Woodrow
I would be tempted to go with something like this
Quote from: @jolslover on August 09, 2015, 12:20:00 PM
Betts, Grimmer Hutch Bod Kav, Cairney Hyndman Matilla Kaca, Dembele Woodrow
I would be tempted to go with something like this
That team, SHOULD get the job done
Isn't Grimmer injured?
Quote from: @jolslover on August 09, 2015, 12:20:00 PM
Betts, Grimmer Hutch Bod Kav, Cairney Hyndman Matilla Kaca, Dembele Woodrow
I would be tempted to go with something like this
Taggart was "due to be assessed" before Cardiff. I'd have him on the bench if he's fit enough. Hyndman as captain
Haven't ever been a fan of Dembele but he seems to have matured of late. So be good to see him at Wycombe. Certainly Mattila, Kaka, Woodrow, Dembele, Hyndman should be given the nod.
I think kit should retain the back four from Cardiff purel so they get use to each other.
You mean retain the back four just to prove the can't play together?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 09, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Isn't Grimmer injured?
He has a virus but should be OK by Tuesday.
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Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2015, 12:52:11 PM
I think kit should retain the back four from Cardiff purel so they get use to each other.
I agree.
I'd rotate somewhat, but I don't want to see Larnell Cole involved; I think Eisfeld is the better player. There is a decent case to keep the defence together, but I'd want to give game time to Jack Grimmer and Sean Kavanagh in the full back positions, if Grimmer is unavailable than just shuffle Kay Voser over. If Bettinelli can play, he'd get game time. I think this game is perfect to introduce Sakari Mattila and get a feel for what he's about with Emerson Hyndman that tad further in front. Alex Kacaniklic for Ben Pringle and a partnership of Cauley Woodrow and Moussa Dembele up top.
Ideally:
-------------------Bettinelli------------------
Grimmer---Hutchinson---Burn---Kavanagh
Eisfeld-----Hyndman----Mattila---Kacaniklic
------------Dembele----Woodrow-----------
That'd do me nicely, bench of: Lonergan, Voser, Burgess, Cairney, Pringle, Plumain, Smith.
As an aside, I'm in block B on Tuesday along with two others, anybody on here in a block other than A or B ?
Hopefully we have a 1000 their for such a local trip.
Agreed we should keep the back 4 the same as they need to learn.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 09, 2015, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 09, 2015, 12:52:11 PM
I think kit should retain the back four from Cardiff purel so they get use to each other.
I agree.
Quote from: Riversider on August 09, 2015, 01:40:43 PM
As an aside, I'm in block B on Tuesday along with two others, anybody on here in a block other than A or B ?
Hopefully we have a 1000 their for such a local trip.
From what I was told at the ticket office, it is a case of sitting where you like and we have sold out our allocation, so should have a good following!!
EB
I was hoping to pay on the gate. That end holds 2000- surely we have not sold that many?
Quote from: @jolslover on August 09, 2015, 12:20:00 PM
Betts, Grimmer Hutch Bod Kav, Cairney Hyndman Matilla Kaca, Dembele Woodrow
I would be tempted to go with something like this
Sounds good to me, essential for these players to get game time.
Lonergan
Grimmer Hutch Bodurov Kavanagh
Hyndman Matilla
Kaca Pringle
Woodrow Dembele
Saturday is a big game, it's important to get off to a good start and I wouldn't risk anyone getting injured or fatigued. Other than Pringle just because George Williams won't be available and I really don't rate Eisfield. Bettinelli seems to have one foot out the door so I would stick with Lonergan and Hutch because I don't think Burgess is ready for mens football
If we win we win but I would rather win Saturday. Looking forward to this one, it's my daughters first away game and I haven't been to this ground so it's another to tick off the list
I think Voser, Burn & Hutch need to play again, but Betts & Grimmer also need a game. Matilla, being a left-sided DM, should add cover on that side for Voser, and Hyndman on the right. The rest of them just need to impress and push for a place.
Betts
Grimmer Hutch Burn Voser
Hyndman Matilla
Eisfield Kaca
Cauley
Moussa
Quote from: Gloss White on August 09, 2015, 06:37:25 PM
I was hoping to pay on the gate. That end holds 2000- surely we have not sold that many?
Gloss White/All - apologies, but on the club website last night coming back from Cardiff it showed "sold out" against tickets, but now it shows tickets available............!!
EB
thanks earl!
I agree we should make changes to be fresh for Saturday & give some youngsters a chance to stake a claim I would like to see
Bettenelli
Grimmer Hutchinson Burn Richards
Cole Hyndman Matilla Kacaniklic
Woodrow Dembele
Subs - Lonergan, Bodurov, O'Hara, Cairney, Eisfield, Taggart, Smith
At first glance seems straightforward. Match of lesser importance: Send in the second stringers. Especially as all our subs yesterday (except the unknown Matilla) have fairly legitimate claims to a place - on paper the team would not be much weakened.
However...
Yesterday we seemed to have something going in midfield. It seemed to me that cohesion improved through the game and that the quartet would gain considerably from further game time together.
I stand second to nobody in my admiration of and enthusiasm for Hyndman but, as with Roberts, I don't think we should try to keep him sweet to the detriment of our immediate prospects. Short-termism that may be, but, unfortunately, the short-term is what we've got.
We could, and should, slot in Dembele without fundamentally altering the balance of the side.
Quote from: earlbeatty on August 09, 2015, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 09, 2015, 01:40:43 PM
As an aside, I'm in block B on Tuesday along with two others, anybody on here in a block other than A or B ?
Hopefully we have a 1000 their for such a local trip.
From what I was told at the ticket office, it is a case of sitting where you like and we have sold out our allocation, so should have a good following!!
EB
Why would they say that, don't see the point, that's guaranteed to cause problems, especially with all the people that turn up late.
Quote from: Riversider on August 09, 2015, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: earlbeatty on August 09, 2015, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 09, 2015, 01:40:43 PM
As an aside, I'm in block B on Tuesday along with two others, anybody on here in a block other than A or B ?
Hopefully we have a 1000 their for such a local trip.
From what I was told at the ticket office, it is a case of sitting where you like and we have sold out our allocation, so should have a good following!!
EB
Riversider - I'm pretty sure this is what I was told - It was the case at Cardiff yesterday, we were told to sit where we liked, even though we all had tickets with seat numbers etc...no doubt we'll find out on Tuesday.
EB
Why would they say that, don't see the point, that's guaranteed to cause problems, especially with all the people that turn up late.
I'd play like Mourinho and play a team thay will win. no gambles get the job done and then at 50 mins make changes but no to whole sale changes
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I don't want to see too much rotation. Those calling for a second string to take the pitch will all disappear if we lose and Kit takes a battering.
I'd make 3 or 4 changes, with McC, Smith and O'Hara all on the bench ready to come on if things get a bit squeaky. This won't be a push over.
Would like to see decent rotation
Bettinelli
Grimmer Bodurov Burn Kavanagh
Cole Matilla Hyndman Kaca
Woodrow Dembele
Quote from: FPT on August 09, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
-------------------Bettinelli------------------
Grimmer---Hutchinson---Burn---Kavanagh
Eisfeld-----Hyndman----Mattila---Kacaniklic
------------Dembele----Woodrow-----------
Personally I like this and would not mind seeing this as our first XI. It would show that we do have faith in or youth.
If we loose so what. I think we should be more concentrated on the league then any other competition.
For me on the bench I would have McCormack, Burgess, Cairney, Pringle, Plumain, Smith, just in case things get a little dicey.
Again, for me the league is the most important so I have no problem with the youth have a go at this.
Still no advance on Block B then ?
Tickets available on the gate priced at £15
Wycombe away has always been a decent trip,
"Conroy, from the half way line"
Will Taggart be fit - be nice for him to get his debut
I would like to see Taggart. We really don't know what we have with him, and I would feel better if we had cover for Ross....if he goes down who steps in. As it is right now I think you would have to put Cairney in his place behind Smith/Dembele, and Cairney is not suited for that role. Not saying taggart is either, but who would know until we see him.
Good opportunity to put in Dembele and Hyndman from the start, let them know we want them to stay.
After watching the replay of Cardiff, I thought Ross looked a bit rusty still. Maybe letting him torment a lower league defence will help sharpness and improve his confidence.
Quote from: Riversider on August 10, 2015, 09:09:51 AM
Still no advance on Block B then ?
Tickets available on the gate priced at £15
Wycombe away has always been a decent trip,
"Conroy, from the half way line"
? Well I'm in C block and got tickets over a week ago....ticked 'best available'
? Well I'm in C block and got tickets over a week ago....ticked 'best available'
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I think the lettering goes up to Block F , so looks like plenty of space then
Quote from: MarryMeWRoy on August 10, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
Will Taggart be fit - be nice for him to get his debut
I've read át least two interviews with Taggart in which he has declared himself 100% fit and raring to go! for some reason Symons just doesn't like the look of him, I'd be surprised if he didn't return to Australia before the month is out.
Quote from: Riversider on August 10, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: MarryMeWRoy on August 10, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
Will Taggart be fit - be nice for him to get his debut
I've read át least two interviews with Taggart in which he has declared himself 100% fit and raring to go! for some reason Symons just doesn't like the look of him, I'd be surprised if he didn't return to Australia before the month is out.
Not sure if Symons likes him or not, but he was playing in the friendlies till his latest injury.
Difficult to plan with him when he seems to breakdown every three games. Needs a loan and run of games to win everyone over I reckon.
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Not sure which friendly he picked an injury up in as he hardly plays,
Symons like most managers, has a tendancy to freeze players out, we've seen it before with Stekelenburg, and others, now were seeing it with Amorebietta and Taggart.
Quote from: Riversider on August 10, 2015, 04:32:46 PM
Not sure which friendly he picked an injury up in as he hardly plays,
Symons like most managers, has a tendancy to freeze players out, we've seen it before with Stekelenburg, and others, now were seeing it with Amorebietta and Taggart.
Training?
Kit Symons has not frozen out these people, Fernando Amorebieta was brought back in by Kit Symons last season, until Fernando picked up further injuries and a suspension. Maarten Stekelenburg A) was already out on loan when Kit Symons was appointed, B) doesn't want to be here anyway. I don't see how Kit Symons can freeze out a player that's been fit for about two months since joining us.
Illogical statements really.
