I reckon there will be regime change by 7th Nov against Birmingham.
Think he may get until Christmas
if he is backed with the 3 rumoured signings of Ream, Dunk and Gayle then FFC will need to give him until christmas, if he isnt backed with additional funds then they will stick with him till the end of the season.
If we keep sacking managers no one will want to come to us as they will know you only have 6 months or so to prove yourself, damned if you do and damned if you dont
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
I think it depends how much the club want to be promoted. (I expect we'll get an idea of this in the last 2 weeks of the transfer window). It seemed like he hung on by a thread over the summer. With Rigg responsible for player identification (which seems to be going well given who we're brought in so far) they might want to pull the trigger earlier than Xmas if things aren't going well.
Until the QPR game. Lose THAT (making it three losses in three derby games), he'll be out of a job by Saturday lunchtime
Its all about results ,so hopefully he doesn't get sacked because that will mean we are winning games .
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 17, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
Good news for you then, will give you something negative to report back on about FOF over on Cottage Corner, before coming on here to criticise others.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on August 17, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 17, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
Good news for you then, will give you something negative to report back on about FOF over on Cottage Corner, before coming on here to criticise others.
Oh please just sod off. Why must you attack me at every opportunity?
We disagree on a lot of things; that isn't going to change. I would appreciate it if you might choose to ignore my comments rather than make personal attacks every time.
Thanks.
Ben.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 17, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
At least he is leaving his favourite dear Phil alone, " he has gone? " Oh did not notice! :005:
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 17, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
Good for you !
I watched the highlights only on the Offal, and I know they can be totally misleading, but it seems that we might easily have won the match - certainly had opportunities. The person yesterday who called Kit a 'moron' is one him/herself in my book.
I hope it's till the end of the 2016-17 season as buying one new kit a season is getting expensive.
Isn't "sod off" a tad homophobic for this site?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 17, 2015, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 17, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
Oh know, not again, another Kit IN thread, for crying out loud, don't you people ever give up.
We are a small, but very vocal, minority.
True Believers.
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Quote from: Wimbledon_White on August 17, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Oh god...here we go...another Kit Out thread.
I appreciate another Kit Out thread was not your intention Rudolph - I really do. However this thread will inevitably transform into one within one page of comments.
To answer your questions; I think we'll see him last the season and into next.
For a start, I hope to see us to pick up about 14 points from the next seven games and then continue to progress from there on.
Positive Mental Attitude.
At least he is leaving his favourite dear Phil alone, " he has gone? " Oh did not notice! :005:
Our team is crying out for a leader like Phil!
Quote from: MJG on August 17, 2015, 01:57:11 PM
I hope it's till the end of the 2016-17 season as buying one new kit a season is getting expensive.
Classic
That reminds me - I haven't brought this season shirt for my son yet
Too early to have this sort of talk in my view. The season has only just begun, there are still new signings to integrate, etc.
Clearly if Kit does a Felix with no wins in the first 8 matches then the exit door may well be beckoning. I can't see this happening though, I can see us picking up a few wins in the first 10 games.
Kiss of death? I hope not...
This is the official August Kit In/ Kit Out thread, all others will be merged with this one.
As for how long will he last? Hopefully the rest of the season and into the Prem.
Quote from: MJG on August 17, 2015, 01:57:11 PM
I hope it's till the end of the 2016-17 season as buying one new kit a season is getting expensive.
Whatever kit we try, doesn't seem to help us!
As said before I hope he is here until the end of the season as that would mean we have been doing well, but I fear he has already gone past his sell by date with 4 wins in 24 games.
Still we live in hope and 3 good signings could make all the difference.COYW 049:gif
I still see the moments where we play nice footballl... the problem is nice football does not always win in the Championship week in and week out... I like Kit and I am hoping for the best but I would have felt a lot better sitting on 4 points...
Our refusal to take risks offensively from the start is costing us because we all can see it coming once we get to the 75 minute and beyond... we are going to concede because we go into a defensive shell... we should have the foot on the throttle the entire match with our attacking players... make the other team fear you....we can outscore people in this league but it takes a confident manager to take that approach... KS might not be that guy..
He better be top 10 by the time December comes around or he will be gone.
Trust me has 10 games make or break
I like my Postman, but I wouldn't expect him to manage Fulham successfully.
Personally I feel Kit could have the best players from the championship in his team, and we would still play like Two Bob Rovers on a bad day. We would still be pants, but that would be alright cause he's a nice guy and used to play for us. In the meantime the teams results and performances are suffering along with the supporters.
I must confess to being extremely angry after the game on Saturday.
Brighton certainly didn't deserve a win and I would have taken a draw. But a win was on the cards until the substitution.
I saw enough of Kit's woeful team set up, substitutions and hysterically banal post match comments to last me a lifetime last season.
Hence my rather drastic comments after the game.
I admire the posters on here who believe he will come good, and I will rejoice with everyone else if he does. But I just can't see it. Even if we do get the CBs we so desperately need and have needed all last season.
Lovely feller. Hopeless manager.
41 games in charge and terrible results do not lie. Even with someone else's team originally.
The players we had last seaaon, with a half decent manager could have done a good job.
Burying the proverbial in the sand is not going to change the fact that we are garbage at the moment under this manager.
Kit out!
COYW!
#KitOut!
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Everyone (me included) got sucked into the post-Felix bounce. The team were so pleased to see the back of the mad german that they played above themselves and we witnessed a good run of results that resulted in Kit getting the job. Since the relief at seeing the back of Felix wore off the results have been woeful. It was generally agreed that Kit was on a learning curve but there is no evidence he has progressed at all.
How long will Kit get? Too long.
Just be done with it and get Allardyce in. Get some organisation in our team, get promoted, consolidated and then bin Allardyce. Sorted.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 17, 2015, 09:30:17 PM
Just be done with it and get Allardyce in. Get some organisation in our team, get promoted, consolidated and then bin Allardyce. Sorted.
Comments like that make me think of one thing: "Love the Game; hate the business"
I feel I have been here before, like exactly one year ago.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 17, 2015, 08:26:26 PM
I must confess to being extremely angry after the game on Saturday.
Brighton certainly didn't deserve a win and I would have taken a draw. But a win was on the cards until the substitution.
I saw enough of Kit's woeful team set up, substitutions and hysterically banal post match comments to last me a lifetime last season.
Hence my rather drastic comments after the game.
I admire the posters on here who believe he will come good, and I will rejoice with everyone else if he does. But I just can't see it. Even if we do get the CBs we so desperately need and have needed all last season.
Lovely feller. Hopeless manager.
41 games in charge and terrible results do not lie. Even with someone else's team originally.
The players we had last seaaon, with a half decent manager could have done a good job.
Burying the proverbial in the sand is not going to change the fact that we are garbage at the moment under this manager.
Kit out!
COYW!
+1
KIT OUT
He continues to ruin our club.
The bloke is a drip, he couldn't motivate a sex addict in a brothel!
There, said it! He needs to go before the season is a write off!
You're gonna get slated !!!! But fair call
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As much as I agree that Kit isn't going to get us promoted this thread has been made at least 20 times in the past week.
I couldn't agree more... We need to lose our games heavily so he will be sacked as soon as possible.
I'm dreading us losing 4-0 tonight then beating Huddersfield 1-0. Which will keep him on board longer.
Saying that, I don't see us getting anything from the Huddersfield game anyhow.
Already knew we was in for another disappointing season the moment the Club chose the cheaper option by sticking with Kit. Kind of prepared myself for it really, but still angry that htese decisions keep on happening.
Quote from: spoken on August 19, 2015, 09:02:01 PM
KIT OUT
He continues to ruin our club.
The bloke is a drip, he couldn't motivate a sex addict in a brothel!
There, said it! He needs to go before the season is a write off!
I really want kit to succeed but it's just not happening for him unfortunately. Why hasn't he sorted that defence yet? Everyone can see its a major problem apart from the person that matters most.
I've seen Hull's goal tonight - a short corner played to one of their players who was completely unmarked, not closed down & allowed to float in a perfect cross to be nodded home. Yet again, terrible defending.
A real slow start for us again tonight also. More lack of motivational skills from kit.... Again
Tom Kierney has scored a blinder.
Quote from: Fulham76 on August 19, 2015, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: spoken on August 19, 2015, 09:02:01 PM
KIT OUT
He continues to ruin our club.
The bloke is a drip, he couldn't motivate a sex addict in a brothel!
There, said it! He needs to go before the season is a write off!
I really want kit to succeed but it's just not happening for him unfortunately. Why hasn't he sorted that defence yet? Everyone can see its a major problem apart from the person that matters most.
I've seen Hull's goal tonight - a short corner played to one of their players who was completely unmarked, not closed down & allowed to float in a perfect cross to be nodded home. Yet again, terrible defending.
I keep having this argument, but I keep being knocked back with insults.
The defence was the key area right from last summer. Why are we still now trying to to close deals for people like Dunk etc 3 games into the season?
We should have look abroad, looked at Europe, German clubs maybe, Belgium?
To start this new campaign with practically the the same back 4 is criminal, absolutely criminal.
Rotten luck with the two Injuries just before halftime, It's a bit late to make a sub after they have scored, on 86 Minutes, reactive as opposed to proactive. One point from nine. But we have 43 League matches left, that's 129 points.
He'll have too long. Probably just after the Jan window when the new guy will have no time to change things.
As a club we act on getting rid of managers too late (Jol, Magath, very nearly Sanchez too) except when things are just looking up as in Rene's case. Baffling.
Luck ? Really ??????
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kit has to be changed... that is obvious, the ceo needs to be changed...it is criminal he remains and I think the man at the toip really has no idea what he is doing because in over two seasons everything has got vastly worse with no chance of it likely to improve any time in the foreseeable future...... i am sure he is a nice man but just not suited to running a proffesional football club.
How long will Kit get? He's had too long already.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 19, 2015, 09:45:19 PM
Rotten luck with the two Injuries just before halftime, It's a bit late to make a sub after they have scored, on 86 Minutes, reactive as opposed to proactive. One point from nine. But we have 43 League matches left, that's 129 points.
When I think about our bad start, I think about how Sunderland managed to get promoted after being near the bottom at Christmas.
Lets hope we don't have to climb out of that big of hole.
Please Kit - do the decent thing - request a downgrade to the under 21s! You did a good Job previously and it will turn on you if you carry on this pretence of senior manager!
Otherwise, I hope Khan sacks you! Really sorry ol chap but you haven't a clue!
Q: How many overweight, low-energy managers are successful?
A: NONE
We kept Jol on far too long and look what happened. We're doing the same with Kit. He should've been replaced over the summer. The guy is simply NOT UP TO THE JOB
Jumping on the bandwagon! We need to see something else.
Something or someone ?
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4 wins in our last 22 league games says it all. That said, with the players we have, anyone would struggle.
Quote from: Chutney on August 19, 2015, 10:02:18 PM
4 wins in our last 22 league games says it all. That said, with the players we have, anyone would struggle.
Ironic right?
Quote from: Chutney on August 19, 2015, 10:02:18 PM
4 wins in our last 22 league games says it all. That said, with the players we have, anyone would struggle.
Defence aside we have good players.
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 19, 2015, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: Chutney on August 19, 2015, 10:02:18 PM
4 wins in our last 22 league games says it all. That said, with the players we have, anyone would struggle.
Defence aside we have good players.
If we had a decent, pacey striker, we'd have a promotion hopefull team. Forgetting the defence..
The players will be hit hard by losing that. Just as well we have a charismatic manager who will lift their spirits.
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
I've just watched the goals. Their first is from a badly defended corner, shock horror!
The idiot has to go, he hasn't got a clue and the sooner he is shown the door the better.
The thing that worries me is that if/when Kit leaves, the new manager will claim that due to the bad start made by a team that isn't his, the priority is survival. He will then ask for a full transfer window and pre-season to build his own team.
If Kit doesn't succeed, his successor has to be the real deal.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
He has had 3 games with his own team and the window is still open, please give it a rest about 6 months ! :dft007:
Quote from: epsomraver on August 20, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
He has had 3 games with his own team and the window is still open, please give it a rest about 6 months ! :dft007:
Magath only had 7 games last year and had more of a "defence" in that he was trying (foolishly) to play as many of our our younger players as he could whilst integrating the new signings. Nothing Kit has done so far this season suggests it will be any different to last, and he doesn't even have the excuse of blooding inexperienced players.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 17, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Think he may get until Christmas
If he gets that long then we will be beyond it and have little chance of survival. This club is being run into the ground. Didn't renew my season this time around despite having been a season ticket holder for 15 years previous. When the signings came in I wasn't sure whether it was the right move, but clearly we don't have a class backroom team now...
If we lose to Huddersfield it would be very difficult to see him lasting until Rotherham....
Just a feeling about the way the club seems to have regathered itself after relegation and it's radio silence following the game makes a little alarm bell in my mind go off that the result last night has been noted and the clock is ticking....
Simple answer to this question is , TOO LONG.
Lose to both Huddersfield and Sheffield United and he is gone no two ways about it,
Draw with Huddersfield and lose to Sheffield United and there is every chance that he goes next Wednesday.
Dead man walking.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 20, 2015, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on August 20, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
He has had 3 games with his own team and the window is still open, please give it a rest about 6 months ! :dft007:
Magath only had 7 games last year and had more of a "defence" in that he was trying (foolishly) to play as many of our our younger players as he could whilst integrating the new signings. Nothing Kit has done so far this season suggests it will be any different to last, and he doesn't even have the excuse of blooding inexperienced players.
With respect, taking the start of the season on it's own merits when we speak about FM is a little narrow in perspective. The guy got 7 games because he managed to get us relegated (with a ton of help from Jol) and then gutted the team with some new-age thinking which included cheese! He was the main contributor to his own downfall, the results (or lack of them) just added a couple more layers on top of the dodgy foundations he has erected.
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Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 20, 2015, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on August 20, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
He has had 3 games with his own team and the window is still open, please give it a rest about 6 months ! :dft007:
Magath only had 7 games last year and had more of a "defence" in that he was trying (foolishly) to play as many of our our younger players as he could whilst integrating the new signings. Nothing Kit has done so far this season suggests it will be any different to last, and he doesn't even have the excuse of blooding inexperienced players.
With respect, taking the start of the season on it's own merits when we speak about FM is a little narrow in perspective. The guy got 7 games because he managed to get us relegated (with a ton of help from Jol) and then gutted the team with some new-age thinking which included cheese! He was the main contributor to his own downfall, the results (or lack of them) just added a couple more layers on top of the dodgy foundations he has erected.
The "gutting" of the team needed to happen though - not as extremely as it was, but there are probably only 3 maybe 4 players that could have been kept and on a decent wage that would have made any real difference to us last year - but it should have been done over the course of the last 3 years. I'm not gonna defend Magath, he was awful, but Kit really is doing no better - yet he has a better and more consistent squad.
If anything, doing equally poorly in less tumultuous circumstances is even more damning.
He has the next 3 games. After that he will be a goner. International break to get someone in.
He will be here until Christmas. If we are in the bottom 3 at that time he might go. If we are around 16th/17th at that time he will get the whole season.
Quote from: epsomraver on August 20, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
He has had 3 games with his own team and the window is still open, please give it a rest about 6 months ! :dft007:
Kit has had nearly 2 transfer windows and our defence is not improved from its awfulness of 12 months ago. That in itself is enough to fire him in my books. The goals we gave away last night were a disgrace.
Quote from: epsomraver on August 20, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 19, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
He's already had 6 months too long. Might Aswell keep him on as he has assembled a mediocre squad. Surviving a relegation scrap under kit will be more exciting than finishing 12 under a better manager
He has had 3 games with his own team and the window is still open, please give it a rest about 6 months ! :dft007:
why, he was poor last season and he has been poor this season. What should be given a rest is all those saying he has only had 3 games, he hasn't he has had over 50, he is just a crap manager
Quote from: Burt on August 17, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Too early to have this sort of talk in my view. The season has only just begun, there are still new signings to integrate, etc.
Clearly if Kit does a Felix with no wins in the first 8 matches then the exit door may well be beckoning. I can't see this happening though, I can see us picking up a few wins in the first 10 games.
Kiss of death? I hope not...
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Quote from: Riversider on August 20, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Lose to both Huddersfield and Sheffield United and he is gone no two ways about it,
Draw with Huddersfield and lose to Sheffield United and there is every chance that he goes next Wednesday.
Dead man walking.
Depending on the teams reaction to our set back last night, and the team selection, there is every possibility, that we could get through unbeaten in both matches. But of course the performances could improve, or maybe not. If we avoid defeat in both matches, he may get a stay of execution, however, if we end up Losing again, then I cannot see the justification of prolonging the agony, at least for the supporters sake.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 20, 2015, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 20, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Lose to both Huddersfield and Sheffield United and he is gone no two ways about it,
Draw with Huddersfield and lose to Sheffield United and there is every chance that he goes next Wednesday.
Dead man walking.
Depending on the teams reaction to our set back last night, and the team selection, there is every possibility, that we could get through unbeaten in both matches. But of course the performances could improve, or maybe not. If we avoid defeat in both matches, he may get a stay of execution, however, if we end up Losing again, then I cannot see the justification of prolonging the agony, at least for the supporters sake.
I fully expect us to win both. It's the manner of the win,that I will be paying close attention too. Two of our easiest games on paper, got to start looking more like a team
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 20, 2015, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: Riversider on August 20, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Lose to both Huddersfield and Sheffield United and he is gone no two ways about it,
Draw with Huddersfield and lose to Sheffield United and there is every chance that he goes next Wednesday.
Dead man walking.
Depending on the teams reaction to our set back last night, and the team selection, there is every possibility, that we could get through unbeaten in both matches. But of course the performances could improve, or maybe not. If we avoid defeat in both matches, he may get a stay of execution, however, if we end up Losing again, then I cannot see the justification of prolonging the agony, at least for the supporters sake.
I fully expect us to win both. It's the manner of the win,that I will be paying close attention too. Two of our easiest games on paper, got to start looking more like a team
I agree that the most important thing is to play like a team that is capable of winning matches, even if some of the games end in defeat. Playing badly but winning is not a long term solution to getting promoted.
Unless my memory has gone in my old age, I thought that Kit was given a contract only to the end of this season. Now I know contracts are not worth the paper they are written on, but unless he achieves a play off spot, I cannot see that contract being extended.
So I predict he will be gone, at the latest by the end of this season (and if he does stay until then , being an optimist, I expect us to be mid table).
And he can walk away claiming that he did build some foundations. Whether you believe that of course is up to you.
Unless we win the next two games then I will have to cease being rational, patient and reasonable. I may have to give up and agree that, very very sadly, Kit just does not seem to learn and adapt.
It's up to you Kit, ffs let's play with some freedom and adventure.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 17, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Think he may get until Christmas
With good behaviour, he will be out in three months.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 20, 2015, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: jimmyc19 on August 17, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Think he may get until Christmas
With good behaviour, he will be out in three months.
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You do tickle me woolly!
Don't stop - I like it!
1 more loss in the next week and this site will go nuts...
Quote from: DeuceBigelow on August 20, 2015, 10:37:12 PM
1 more loss in the next week and this site will go nuts...
Well at least we haven't got to wait long!
