Ignore the fact that he plays for you know who, should John Terry have the captains armband taken away?
YES
Yes.
And it should then be dipped in cyanide and rammed down his throat.
Actually, technically that's a NO then.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
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No sorry knobbing some bird is nothing to do with football, he has committed no crime, bet half the England squad are at it in some form or other, Beckham didn't get it taken from him for sorting out that cruz bird allegedly
Mr Finn I see that you are having the same problem with smilies and colour changes as I have, I thought I was doing something wrong :D
YES
YEP NO QUESTION
Yes. A captain's armband is given to the player who shows leadership, on and off the field, so he shouldn't lose his place on the team but they should give the armband to a more deserving leader.
Quote from: epsomraver on February 02, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
No sorry knobbing some bird is nothing to do with football, he has committed no crime, bet half the England squad are at it in some form or other, Beckham didn't get it taken from him for sorting out that cruz bird allegedly
"knobbing some bird" is completely different from having an affair with your team mates missus - as I'm sure Wayne Bridge would testify.
I appreciate these are modern times but if one of my colleagues slept with my wife I would want to batter them.
In short YES
Yes
as the captain of England he a 'role-model' the job is more than just putting on an arm-band and demanding lots of money to show people around
Yes for the reasons WhiteJC and RidgeRider have stated far more eloquently than I could.
Yes.
But he should make the job for Fabio easier by resigning immediately. At least then we might think he had an ounce of remorse.
Absolutely! Give the job to Ashley Cole... :P
Quote from: Jimpav on February 02, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on February 02, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
No sorry knobbing some bird is nothing to do with football, he has committed no crime, bet half the England squad are at it in some form or other, Beckham didn't get it taken from him for sorting out that cruz bird allegedly
"knobbing some bird" is completely different from having an affair with your team mates missus - as I'm sure Wayne Bridge would testify.
I appreciate these are modern times but if one of my colleagues slept with my wife I would want to batter them.
In short YES
Well put Jimpav, if he'd have just rumped any old slapper it wouldn't matter, but a team mates bird is well out of order.
As far as I'm concerned, if his captaincy is the best for England, then a definite NO.
Generally, I give considerably less than 2 monkeys as to his, and other players', personal lives, unless it has a detrimental effect on the team, that goes for Fulham as well as England, and although I cannot condone what he did (without appearing hypocritical) I believe it is up to Wayne to decide if it does have any effect.
If Wayne is in the England squad, and he finds he cannot play with Terry, then Capello needs to decide whether he needs Wayne or Terry in the squad, and then I feel that Terry needs to be relieved of the captaincy.
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on February 02, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: Jimpav on February 02, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on February 02, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
No sorry knobbing some bird is nothing to do with football, he has committed no crime, bet half the England squad are at it in some form or other, Beckham didn't get it taken from him for sorting out that cruz bird allegedly
"knobbing some bird" is completely different from having an affair with your team mates missus - as I'm sure Wayne Bridge would testify.
I appreciate these are modern times but if one of my colleagues slept with my wife I would want to batter them.
In short YES
Well put Jimpav, if he'd have just rumped any old slapper it wouldn't matter, but a team mates bird is well out of order.
Hmm, so if it had been some other footballers girlfriend, not an England team-mate, say Alonso's, what degree would that cause?
Yes, serial offender but his resignation might leave him with some shreds of respectability. I wonder if he even stopped for a moment to consider the effect of his behaviour on team morale ? Probably not...
Quote from: GoldCoastWhite on February 02, 2010, 02:45:36 PM
Yes, serial offender but his resignation might leave him with some shreds of respectability. I wonder if he even stopped for a moment to consider the effect of his behaviour on team morale ? Probably not...
If his mother is anything to go by, probably not. Morals, ethics and right & wrongs start with the parents
Quote from: finnster01 on February 02, 2010, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: GoldCoastWhite on February 02, 2010, 02:45:36 PM
Yes, serial offender but his resignation might leave him with some shreds of respectability. I wonder if he even stopped for a moment to consider the effect of his behaviour on team morale ? Probably not...
If his mother is anything to go by, probably not. Morals, ethics and right & wrongs start with the parents
Have you heard the story that Jamie Carraghers uncle and anouther member of his clan had a three way with Terrys mum in Baden Baden?, hence the reason why Carragher wont play for England anymore. There is a song about it as well but i forget how it goes.
I wouldn't mind seeing Terry as captain of an Argentine regiment under Mr. Finn's guns, but it really doesn't matter to me. If you are (a) drunk and disorderly and taunting American tourists in a hotel on September 12, 2001, (b) involved in back-handers for private tours of The Home of the Undead, and (c) linked with a private money-making scheme involving wearing the national armband in commercials and HAVEN'T been stripped of the captaincy yet, then why would a little bit of shagging of a teammate's bird do the trick?
Apparently, there are some folks who "follow Fulham" would probably approve of everything the knuckle-dragger has done -- like the bright spart over on Facebook taking Roy to task for not signing Joey Barton yesterday. Seems we need a "box-to-box midfielder with a hard edge to him" to stop us from being kicked all over the park. He justifies this by saying that Fulham "is a Christian football club and Christianity is all about forgiveness."
The best retort I saw was that rather than being a "box to box midfielder" Barton was a "back to prison midfielder."
The world be full of idiots.
He should be made Captain of England for the rest of his career.
What has he done that any of you would not have done given the chance and thinking you could get away with it??????
BIG NO FROM BLIN GO lol.
Fabio Capello rang Wayne Bridge today " Wayne, John Terry has lost his captains armband" "Could you look under your bed for it?"
Most definitely YES... he should resign right now.
However who do you think of when we consider the most archetypical World Cup winning England Captain and role model
Well anyone who has read football autobiographies will discover there were plenty of skeletons-a-rattling in Bobby's cupboard.
Who else would we consider for the role?
David Beckham – allegedly ******* the nanny while Posh was out
Wayne Rooney – allegedly ******* a granny when Colleen wasn't looking
Stevie G – finest brief in the land got him off GBH charge.
Maybe we should ask Sven for advice on this? .... No hold hard – don't bother.
The fact of having so much money buggers up their moral compass, they think they can do anything and the money will take care of the consequences......... well boys.... think on.....
Quote from: The Equalizer on February 02, 2010, 02:33:33 PM
Absolutely! Give the job to Ashley Cole... :P
Coles been caught speeding yet again. Asked why, he told the officer that Terrys 4x4 was parked outside his house.
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Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on February 02, 2010, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on February 02, 2010, 02:33:33 PM
Absolutely! Give the job to Ashley Cole... :P
Coles been caught speeding yet again. Asked why, he told the officer that Terrys 4x4 was parked outside his house.
.. and Lampys push-bike was behind it !!!
Quote from: blingo on February 02, 2010, 07:45:41 PM
He should be made Captain of England for the rest of his career.
What has he done that any of you would not have done given the chance and thinking you could get away with it??????
BIG NO FROM BLIN GO lol.
I hope your jokin' blingo coz this attitude is disgraceful. The captain of a team has a responsibility to represent that team at all times. Some of us have higher moral standards than to lower ourselves to the level of a tom cat. Getting away with it doesn't make right. Affairs destroy lives, but sh***ing on your own doorstep is the most despicable act. The fact that he hasn't resigned yet proves that he has no conscience and I don't care if he were the best player on the planet, he should not be captain.
Cheating with Alonsos Mrs would not make him any better (although I'm sure he would have got some kudos from the Man U boys), the moral of the story is don't sh1t on a team mate.
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Hmm, so if it had been some other footballers girlfriend, not an England team-mate, say Alonso's, what degree would that cause?
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Quote from: Fernhurst on February 02, 2010, 08:09:45 PM
Most definitely YES... he should resign right now.
However who do you think of when we consider the most archetypical World Cup winning England Captain and role model
Well anyone who has read football autobiographies will discover there were plenty of skeletons-a-rattling in Bobby's cupboard.
Who else would we consider for the role?
David Beckham – allegedly ******* the nanny while Posh was out
Wayne Rooney – allegedly ******* a granny when Colleen wasn't looking
Stevie G – finest brief in the land got him off GBH charge.
Maybe we should ask Sven for advice on this? .... No hold hard – don't bother.
The fact of having so much money buggers up their moral compass, they think they can do anything and the money will take care of the consequences......... well boys.... think on.....
Don't forget Rio and Fat Frank roasting some bird in Aiya Napa, albeit a few years ago. The squad isn't exactly well behaved!
Quote from: fulhamaustin on February 02, 2010, 09:27:05 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on February 02, 2010, 08:09:45 PM
Most definitely YES... he should resign right now.
However who do you think of when we consider the most archetypical World Cup winning England Captain and role model
Well anyone who has read football autobiographies will discover there were plenty of skeletons-a-rattling in Bobby's cupboard.
Who else would we consider for the role?
David Beckham – allegedly ******* the nanny while Posh was out
Wayne Rooney – allegedly ******* a granny when Colleen wasn't looking
Stevie G – finest brief in the land got him off GBH charge.
Maybe we should ask Sven for advice on this? .... No hold hard – don't bother.
The fact of having so much money buggers up their moral compass, they think they can do anything and the money will take care of the consequences......... well boys.... think on.....
Don't forget Rio and Fat Frank roasting some bird in Aiya Napa, albeit a few years ago. The squad isn't exactly well behaved!
Exactly FulhamAustin, there are VERY few of our so-called stars that would make any kind of moral standing when we look a little closer. So we are down to degrees of how immoral is each player.
If we restrict it just to the shaggers (or alledged shaggers - for legal purposes), then we rule out Becks, Terry, Lumpy, Rio and Rooney. But we cannot ignore the Gerrard case of beating up a geezer when out getting pi$$ed up with your mates either, so who do we think should now take the sacred armband?
Any offers?
...with the paucity of morals and standards by the recent captains of England, it is no surprise they are revered by the feral masses who copy or live by the same rules.
Just because they all do, or can do, it is no excuse. What we may or may not do as individuals given the opportunity is neither here nor there, as we do no have an influence or a moral obligation with the position we hold and the influence we can make on generations by our actions.
These fortunate people should have the responsibilities of their actions; if people think that is fine, and of no importance to sully the previous good name of an England team in front of the world, then it has become a very sad place...
what two adults do in private is a private matter, it`s now up to mrs terry to decide how she deals with the situation she`s been put in.
it has nothing to do with their jobs.
as for influence, people should use their parents and family as role models not a jumped footballer and his bit on the side, i would advise my kids to look at them as an immoral way to live.
my answer is no.
Exactly Don, it has absolutely nothing to do with his job. If he had been caught shagging Abramovitch´s missus then I could understand him losing not only his job but his head also. As for the England Captaincy, sorry but I just dont see why it should be affected. After all, did the woman not open her legs willingly? Two adults consenting to a sexual encounter should not lead to a condemnation of his position in his job. He is hardly part of MI6 is he?
Don't like the bloke but on football matters only it has to be a NO.
I have posed this question because, though I think he should lose the armband, I also bring into question the media. How many times do they do this just prior to a World Cup. The media love to make life difficult for our footballers. Who remembers the Bobby Moore incident just prior to the Mexico World Cup in 1970? They (the English press) went to town on that story, a story that was proved to be completely unfounded.
I have to say, it's been a very interesting read to see other peoples pov on this. Great subject Peabody, if not absolutely controversial.
I would like to point out, as I believe others might be of a same mind, to say that any argument I might put forward for the pros and cons to Terry's behavior, notwithstanding his morals would make a alley-cat blush, please do not take any inference whatsoever that I condone or otherwise his actions, or morals, but any argument I do put forward should be taken in the context of the question only, that is, should he lose the armband due to his (now public) indiscretions.
And no, SWMBO has NOT forced me to make such a proclamation in fear of warming the spare bed for a period of time, either!! :-\ :-\
I have never forgiven former England captain, Billy Wright, for marrying one of the Beverly Sisters, who I am sure should have been called the Beverly Brothers
The Corked one reveals himself!
Fantastic Questionnaire Mr. Peabody
Mr. HatterD, I too would want to see JT behind the Argentine lines - there'd be no stopping the Finnster.
If I were a player on the England squad, I would not want J.Terry as my Captain. He's not the type of leader I would want to follow.
When I was in the forces, a captain was close to Jesus. Having said that, I wish I could have had my AUG scope on Maradona, Argie bastard
How is it that the old slapper involved in all this emerges relatively unscathed?
Doesn't it take two to tango? My first wife ran off with my best friend. Christ I miss him and at the time I disliked her more than I did him. True story.
I can relate to that Mr. CH, happened in my 3rd and 4th, never looked back (me that is).
