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Ideally should Kit return to under 21 management or GO. Who would you like to see take over?

Allardyce for me. It's who I wanted after Magath left.

Cheeky shout for Montella, although unproven at this level.

We should have gone for Pardew or Howe when Jol was sacked (or better when he should have been sacked after the 3-0 undeserved win at Swansea)

pearson may not be a bad shout actually. didn't do much wrong at leicester did he? and he has championship experience.  at least press conferences would never be boring with him in charge.

Pearson had good football going with Leicester. Not a big fan of big Sam. The complaints about hoof to Smith football would only increase

I've gone for Pearson as although he's a bit of a nutjob, he's proven he can get out of this division and when I used to watch Leicester in the championship they played some really good football as well as being properly organised.

I'd love to see Clarke given a shot. I think he started off his managerial career really well until Birmingham screwed him over.

I'd rather see us take a manager from a club performing well than a manager who has been sacked by his previous club.

Tigana , he is proven at this level with us and I loved his total football style

Big Sam or Paul Lambert for track record.
Tigana for novelty.

Lambert would be my first choice.

None on that list for me. They all have had mor failures than success.
If we were looking for a new manager it would cost more money, FFP wise, than we could afford to bring in a proven man.

Steve Coterill from Bristol city would be a good appointment, has them playing excellently. Simon Grayson and Gary Rowett would be my other two choices.

Paul Lambert for me, though it could/should have been Warburton when we had the chance !
As for Clarke, Holloway and Murphy FFS , give me strength.

Quote from: grandad on August 20, 2015, 08:27:13 AM
None on that list for me. They all have had mor failures than success.
If we were looking for a new manager it would cost more money, FFP wise, than we could afford to bring in a proven man.

have you seen our accounts then?

Why Murphy ffs?Pearson would have the pc brigade in meltdown in no time.
Lambert very dull.At the moment would need to be someone in a job-the list above not exactly inspired just ,maybe,available.

Quote from: west kowloon white on August 20, 2015, 08:39:44 AM
Why Murphy ffs?Pearson would have the pc brigade in meltdown in no time.
Lambert very dull.At the moment would need to be someone in a job-the list above not exactly inspired just ,maybe,available.

yes I don't get the Murphy choice. He has even less experience than kit. And to my knowledge has never managed even a kids team.

Changing manager could affect any transfers we have in the pipeline right now (If rumours and speculation are to be believed), what I do not get is most were campaigning all over for Kit to get the job but are now want him out, if a club changes manager every year success will never be achieved as new methods and players come in and no one settles.

I am not advocating Kit stays pointing out some of the pitfalls of chopping and changing, I was one of those said Kit should not get the job and I was lambasted on here for that, some comments were quite personal. I think grandad does have a point without knowing the accounts it doesnt take a scientist to know that any sacking of kit will impact FFP even by a small amount, but that maybe a risk the club is prepared to take. I hope they take a risk buy stretching it with payer signings.

What ever happens the next 2 weeks or so till deadline day will be very interesting.

Quote from: westcliff white on August 20, 2015, 08:43:21 AM
Changing manager could affect any transfers we have in the pipeline right now (If rumours and speculation are to be believed), what I do not get is most were campaigning all over for Kit to get the job but are now want him out, if a club changes manager every year success will never be achieved as new methods and players come in and no one settles.

I am not advocating Kit stays pointing out some of the pitfalls of chopping and changing, I was one of those said Kit should not get the job and I was lambasted on here for that, some comments were quite personal. I think grandad does have a point without knowing the accounts it doesnt take a scientist to know that any sacking of kit will impact FFP even by a small amount, but that maybe a risk the club is prepared to take. I hope they take a risk buy stretching it with payer signings.

What ever happens the next 2 weeks or so till deadline day will be very interesting.

Watford had 5 managers last season alone. And the achieved success.there is absolutely no point in retaining the services of an utter sh#@ manager

I don't think we will change manager before the end of the window unfortunately. Although, if we do, it's Rigg making the signings anyway.

Quote from: rweller86 on August 20, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
I don't think we will change manager before the end of the window unfortunately. Although, if we do, it's Rigg making the signings anyway.

or not making signings as the case maybe

I would have more confidence that the manager of my local £ shop could do a better job than Kit. 090.gif

Pearson, cheaper than Sam, cheaper on purchases, has fight, will fire the proverbial rocket up the squads ****, knows how to get out of this division

Lambert in!

Walk Curbs down the stairs to the dugout?

Pearson would probably do a good job but would upset a few.I ,personally,enjoyed his stroppy press conferences the PC media slated him for.
Anyway wasn't supposed to go into meltdown till Saturday evening-expected to lose at Hull.

Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on August 20, 2015, 09:28:07 AM
Walk Curbs down the stairs to the dugout?

Not even sure he is still at the club

Curbs visited the dug out last Saturday.

Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on August 20, 2015, 09:28:07 AM
Walk Curbs down the stairs to the dugout?

Is Curbs still at the club? He's like Bigfoot. The odd siting but nothing concrete!

I've always liked Di Matteo (ignoring the last English club he was at) and I think he'd be very good for us. Klopp is also out of a job....

curbs has been out of full time head coaching for far too long. its not easy to get back in the swing of things so quickly.

Quite simple really - Allardyce or Pearson. Both are far superior managers to Kit.

Quote from: tommy on August 20, 2015, 08:13:06 AM
I'd love to see Clarke given a shot. I think he started off his managerial career really well until Birmingham screwed him over.

Absolutely not.

Laudrup, Di Matteo, Hoddle in that order. But doubt we have the ambition.

 

Quote from: Ordar on August 20, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
Allardyce for me. It's who I wanted after Magath left.

Cheeky shout for Montella, although unproven at this level.

This  :plus one:

Quote from: Domino1879 on August 20, 2015, 10:47:07 AM
Laudrup, Di Matteo, Hoddle in that order. But doubt we have the ambition.

I don't disagree I just can't see any of them wanted to join. Di Matteo is one I would like to see spend more than a year at a club. Too restless it seems. Shalke looked a good fit but he resigned because they didn't make champions league.

Leave Kit at it for the season. He's a nice guy.

I'd Love Di Matteo, Montella and Tigana both good shouts. Oscar Garcia my personal favourite. Would also like Gus Poyet or Garry Rowett but not sure realistic. Solskjær perhaps?

I also love the idea of bringing back Rene

Allardyce.

The only name on that list that really stands out would be Sam Allardyce, and it bloody saddens me to say it because the football would be woeful. Sam Allardyce would at least get our current long ball game playing to some success - players in and around the big man, numbers and plenty of crosses in the box. Nigel Pearson is a joke of a man.

Jean Tigana's big success was his revolutionary ideas to coaching and management which is now the common thing, so it'd be interesting to see how he'd do, but they do say don't go back. Lee Clark is still very naive as a manager, frequently chopping and changing rather than believing in what he's doing.

These are bad choices, if we could, Murat Yakin (formally of Basel) would be somebody who has tactical nous as well as opting for an attacking game. I'm not too fussed about a manager having Championship experience - years on the CV do not bother me.

If we could bring Vincenzo Montella home, it would be godly, but unfeasible.

I want us to play with a bit of style and develop a few youngsters - I favour those two elements ahead of winning games, but promotion does also have to be a factor.

Kit won't be going anywhere unless we're in the bottom three at Christmas. Get used to it people. He's gonna get A LOT of time.

The single most important thing for me is the style of play, I want us to be dynamic and attacking, obviously results matter but if we're winning games by lumping it up to smith I'd struggle to support that. 

We need Roy Keane. Team needs to grow balls.

Gary Rowett

Quote from: Birmingham White on August 20, 2015, 12:22:26 PM
Gary Rowett

would be excellent

Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on August 20, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
Leave Kit at it for the season. He's a nice guy.

He may be nice and he may love Fulhams, but leadership capabilities for grown ups is a necessary attribute...

Hate to say it but only one option if we want to go up this season is Big Sam.

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The age-old problem is surfacing its head here so be careful what you wish for...

Removing one manager leads to the headache of who next, and when you look in to it there are not a lot of attractive alternatives there.

I am not saying this as part of a "Kit In" crusade, as I do think change is needed, but if we replace with someone else who is not much better then we will end up with having had more managers in the last 3 seasons than I have had hot dinners.

Quote from: Burt on August 20, 2015, 02:54:38 PM
The age-old problem is surfacing its head here so be careful what you wish for...

Removing one manager leads to the headache of who next, and when you look in to it there are not a lot of attractive alternatives there.

I am not saying this as part of a "Kit In" crusade, as I do think change is needed, but if we replace with someone else who is not much better then we will end up with having had more managers in the last 3 seasons than I have had hot dinners.

This is true and there's always the "victim" on changing manager - notably Hyndman/David under Kit. Who would it be this time??

Conversely there's a "hero" restored to the fold to show the manager is changing things - notably Hyndman can fit this bill and a certain 12 foot special one centre half.

I'd opt for Big Sam out of the obviously available managers.

His style of football may not be the most attractive but he creates winning teams - especially at Championship Level - and that alone will be refreshing and enjoyable at the minute.

Plus, I think I know who I'd rather play for if I was in the position of the players. Nothing Kit has said or done has inspired me one bit in his press conferences or interviews and maybe (just maybe) his motivational skills are the reason we are struggling to start matches. I just get the impression that he also believes deep down that he is out of his depth and this could well be rubbing off on the players.

One thing for certain is each time we change our manager the next appointment becomes even more important than the last and although Sam Allardyce may not be everyone's first choice I do genuinely believe that he would improve the team and the club and at the moment that has to be our short to mid term goal. All this talk of promotion and play offs are totally naive right now - could you imagine this team (both management and players) playing away at the Emirates, Old Trafford etc; even a trip to West Ham (still predominantly Big Sam's players) makes me shudder.

Kit has done his best and his intentions are not to fail but after a bright start to save us from Magath last season I now fear that we have taken one step forward and two steps back and although performances have been good in parts of games this season I genuinely fear that we are going to take a hiding soon and we all know confidence is a very fragile thing!

There's lots of talk on us bidding fees in the region of £5-10m on players like Dunk, Gayle etc and whilst I think they are required to improve the side I wonder if it is worth spending extra on a good manager on a 12 month rolling contract instead.

Still, I will be there cheering them on Saturday....

I don't agree with the short-term option of Allerdyce at all.

For me it's Person, O'Driscoll or Hodgson. Although there are a few other good options that people have suggested as well who aren't on the list in the topic.

Nigel Pearson would be our best option IMO plays with character and passion and brought the best out of some average players at Leicester.

Apart from Danny Murphy all the others have been sacked. Some have been dismissed on multiple occasions. Kit will be successful with our club. Wait until Christmas before making a proper judgement.

Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on August 20, 2015, 04:14:30 PM
Apart from Danny Murphy all the others have been sacked. Some have been dismissed on multiple occasions. Kit will be successful with our club. Wait until Christmas before making a proper judgement.

a year and a half to judge? Not many managers in this day and age get that luxury.

At the moment, 97 votes, 54 for big Sam

Virtually every manager gets sacked at some time. You need to look why they were sacked before making a decision based just on that action.

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Quote from: MJG on August 20, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
Virtually every manager gets sacked at some time. You need to look why they were sacked before making a decision based just on that action.

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Di Matteo was sacked from Chelsea after winning the Champions League!

I met Di Matteo at Craven Cottage the season we went down (against Villa I think?) He was a very nice man.

Who would actually take the job? Not sure Allardyce would. I would guess he would wait for a premiership job to become available..

Job would be perfect for big Sam. He's always bigging himself up and saying how great he is, and to be fair we would be feeding his ego here, as I genuinely believe with one or two signings, no team is miles ahead of us. We just need experience and someone to make the calls at the right moment, and put the right jigsaw pieces in the right places

Quote from: aaronmcguigan on August 20, 2015, 05:24:38 PM
Job would be perfect for big Sam. He's always bigging himself up and saying how great he is, and to be fair we would be feeding his ego here, as I genuinely believe with one or two signings, no team is miles ahead of us. We just need experience and someone to make the calls at the right moment, and put the right jigsaw pieces in the right places

Thought Carver was 'the best coach in England'

Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on August 20, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
I met Di Matteo at Craven Cottage the season we went down (against Villa I think?) He was a very nice man.

My dad's a very nice man as well but that doesn't mean I want him to be Fulham manager.

Haha Carver actually came out and said a shrink told him to say that so he would believe that, which would rub off on the team.

Obviously didn't work when words can't be backed up by actions. Obviously Sam is a bit big headed but at rhis level he's been there and done it so I'm all for it

Brian McDermott

Ian Holloway has been promoted 3 times as a manager? Don't rate him but can knock that

Sam Allardyce is a good shout - he's got the leadership qualities we desperately need, along with the CV and the ability to attract a good player.

Ideally I'd like to see Michael Laudrup or Marcelo Bielsa appointed. Top drawer coaches. It would take a minor miracle to get them in but offer them an attractive deal and you never know - it would be a little bit Fulhamish!

Having said all this, something in my heart still wants it to work out for Kit and the club but the way things are going we'd be crazy not to get a replacement ready.

Sam Allardyce or Nigel Pearson, both would be a massive improvement, with plenty of experience, both assertive, and proactive, and are proven Leaders.

Pearson for me. He knows The Championship, his teams are committed, but play some entertaining stuff. He comes wih a bit of baggage on the strength of last season, but could certainly get us up (next season).

If not then would have to go with Alladyce.

Quote from: MJG on August 20, 2015, 02:25:52 PM
Hate to say it but only one option if we want to go up this season is Big Sam.

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Agree.

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Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 20, 2015, 08:23:28 PM
Pearson for me. He knows The Championship, his teams are committed, but play some entertaining stuff. He comes wih a bit of baggage on the strength of last season, but could certainly get us up (next season).

If not then would have to go with Alladyce.

:plus one:

Quote from: rubbernecca on August 25, 2015, 10:48:22 PM
:plus one:

Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 20, 2015, 08:23:28 PM
Pearson for me. He knows The Championship, his teams are committed, but play some entertaining stuff. He comes wih a bit of baggage on the strength of last season, but could certainly get us up (next season).

If not then would have to go with Alladyce.

:plus one:

Not pearson please! Can't stand the bloke. Huge ego!

Big Sam's the man...