I think the majority would now agree keeper's, defence and central midfield is more than good enough. If we are going to bring in someone it is most likely to be a striker so what are our options?
Gayle possibly now that a permanent move has fallen through, Qpr kept Austin so I would imagine we would be front runners if it was possible.
Hooper- seems the most realistic but I would raise the question. If Norwich were reluctant to loan him without getting a replacement then how can that change in a weeks time now that they are stuck with their squad?
James Wilson- rumours he may be allowed on loan
Lewis Grabban- didnt get his move to Bournemouth and id imagine more likely to be allowed to leave without a replacement than Hooper is.
Jon Walters- handed in a transfer request so something isnt quite right there. Highly unlikely he will go anywhere until Jan but if he does he can only go to the championship.
Danny Graham- God no! But sadly its a realistic option.
Aguero- rumoured to be unsettled in Manchester and wants a swift move down to London. Apparently specifically to a club that plays alongside the banks of the Thames and next to a park but strangly specifically called Bishops Park. I guess it must be us.
Anichebe- if he isn't in the first team plans at WBA.
Fletcher- didnt get a move and has been linked to us in the past few weeks. Wages may be a stumbling block though
Not all my choices but trying to think of our options. Is there anyone else and what do we reckon?
Berahino never wants to play for WBA again so I'd rescue him from his limbo. He'd do a job until Jan.
And as a poor plan B, Adebayor is in the same boat. Hasn't even got a squad number at Spurs!
I wouldn't bother now. Try and get Dembele to sign on and just go with what we have
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
I wouldn't bother now. Try and get Dembele to sign on and just go with what we have
As I said in another thread though, it's not just about Dembele (or Woodrow). McCormack has no pressure on him as the senior 'striker'. He needs someone pushing him to perform.
Quote from: leonffc on September 02, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
I wouldn't bother now. Try and get Dembele to sign on and just go with what we have
As I said in another thread though, it's not just about Dembele (or Woodrow). McCormack has no pressure on him as the senior 'striker'. He needs someone pushing him to perform.
Woodrow has scored the last two times he's brought on, if the strikers below him are scoring, he knows he has to perform.
Aiming a little high Steven Naismith doesn't strike as the kind of bloke who would be happy with a spot on the bench for Everton week in week out.
I like the Aguero idea . Though I do recognise that there are many on the Board that would debate whether he is good enough for us
WIlson is available for loan, although I think we should wait and see how we go
Quote from: Riverside on September 02, 2015, 10:25:21 AM
I like the Aguero idea . Though I do recognise that there are many on the Board that would debate whether he is good enough for us
Id be keen for us to go for Jesé lingard and Dwight Gayle to give us some pace up top. Alternatively James Wilson or Gary Hooper would be good too. Is Joel Campbell still around too? Arsene might be keen for him to get English game time if so...
There is a lot of rubbish talked about championship experience. You soon learn that when you are here.Teams are all different as they are in every league. You have to be able to adapt your game and even style unless of course you are the perfect player
I think we should look at getting a RM, before getting an ST
Buckley, Van La Parra and Hoilett were all not offloaded by their clubs and will probably be available for loan
Buckley's a good shout
Quote from: leonffc on September 02, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
As I said in another thread though, it's not just about Dembele (or Woodrow). McCormack has no pressure on him as the senior 'striker'. He needs someone pushing him to perform.
If he has anything about him he will be pushing himself, if not then the manager should be on his case.
Quote from: f321ffc on September 02, 2015, 11:30:08 AM
Quote from: leonffc on September 02, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
As I said in another thread though, it's not just about Dembele (or Woodrow). McCormack has no pressure on him as the senior 'striker'. He needs someone pushing him to perform.
If he has anything about him he will be pushing himself, if not then the manager should be on his case.
Of course but all footballers will perform better if they have others pushing for their place. Its why top managers such as Fergie and Mourinho are keen to add to their squad every year - to keep the pressure on, to stop top top players resting on their laurels.
If a team wins the league you'd imagine they are at the top of the game at pushing themselves but the worst thing a manager can do is not add to that championship winning side to keep them on their toes.
But we are talking about a striker who can't even come back from a summer break in decent shape!!
My main concern is that if McCormack gets injured, we currently have Dembele and Woodrow as a front pairing, and quite frankly that is not something that gives me confidence at their current stages of development.
I hope we get Hooper or Gayle, so that we then have Dembele or Woodrow as first change - a much stronger proposition.
I'm fairly ok with Ross and one other for now, but as I say, an injury, and we're totally undercooked. :58:
Quote from: Chesh on September 02, 2015, 01:41:15 PM
My main concern is that if McCormack gets injured, we currently have Dembele and Woodrow as a front pairing, and quite frankly that is not something that gives me confidence at their current stages of development.
I hope we get Hooper or Gayle, so that we then have Dembele or Woodrow as first change - a much stronger proposition.
I'm fairly ok with Ross and one other for now, but as I say, an injury, and we're totally undercooked. :58:
Smith is still around. He won't be out for that long. Plus, I'm sure we were smart enough to include a recall in Taggart's loan deal, so we'd be able to have him
Quote from: fulhamben on September 02, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
I wouldn't bother now. Try and get Dembele to sign on and just go with what we have
I like Dembele, want him to succeed...with us, and want to be able to convince him to stay but, he's never come close to playing a full Championship season. I watched the Rotherham match yesterday (first opportunity). Moussa is still making "rookie" mistakes with the ball and his finishing could use work. Having said that, he is still dangerous in front of goal. He's got loads of potential, at very least for this level of the game.
I'd want both Dembele and Woodrow in my team (bench, w occasional starts) and getting plenty of minutes but, I would not want to rely on them if Ross turned up with a long term injury.
We need another striker.
Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on September 02, 2015, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Chesh on September 02, 2015, 01:41:15 PM
My main concern is that if McCormack gets injured, we currently have Dembele and Woodrow as a front pairing, and quite frankly that is not something that gives me confidence at their current stages of development.
I hope we get Hooper or Gayle, so that we then have Dembele or Woodrow as first change - a much stronger proposition.
I'm fairly ok with Ross and one other for now, but as I say, an injury, and we're totally undercooked. :58:
Smith is still around. He won't be out for that long. Plus, I'm sure we were smart enough to include a recall in Taggart's loan deal, so we'd be able to have him
Season long loan deals 99% of the time only allow for a recall in an open transfer window.
Quote from: westcliff white on September 02, 2015, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on September 02, 2015, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Chesh on September 02, 2015, 01:41:15 PM
My main concern is that if McCormack gets injured, we currently have Dembele and Woodrow as a front pairing, and quite frankly that is not something that gives me confidence at their current stages of development.
I hope we get Hooper or Gayle, so that we then have Dembele or Woodrow as first change - a much stronger proposition.
I'm fairly ok with Ross and one other for now, but as I say, an injury, and we're totally undercooked. :58:
Smith is still around. He won't be out for that long. Plus, I'm sure we were smart enough to include a recall in Taggart's loan deal, so we'd be able to have him
Season long loan deals 99% of the time only allow for a recall in an open transfer window.
True but, the number of games we have to play between the injury and the opening of the window could determine the success of our season. Would rather be overstocked at striker and able to remain a scoring threat than under and miss out on playoffs. I think and hope that having another proven option at striker is a luxury that we can afford.
I just saw this explanation of the Loan Rules and thought it would be useful to those of us that were unsure of what clubs are allowed to do.
The emergency loan window will open shortly, giving English clubs the chance to continue the wheeling and dealing domestically.
Every year, Premier League and Football League teams are given the chance to continue temporary switches to help with injuries and the likes.
Here's all the information you need about the loan window.
When does it open?
The 'emergency loan' window opens next Wednesday September 9.
When does it close?
The loan window is set to shut on November 25, with clubs then unable to strengthen until the January window.
No more: The FA's fax machine has been replaced by a fancy online system.
Who can use it?
All you Premier League fans thinking you can still bring players in, think again.
But you can ship some of your youngsters out to aid their development.
Football League clubs can use the window to their advantage - and plenty are sure to - with top-flight talent.
No overseas players can be brought in during the window.
How long can the players move for?
The loan deals can last between 28 days and 93 days.
Should clubs agree a three-month deal, it will tie a player down until the New Year and the January window.
Any other rules?
There is one additional rule, which does also apply to Premier League clubs.
Should sides suffer a goalkeeping crisis, they are able to bring in replacements.
These deals are usually seven days and have been used by Everton and Sunderland in recent seasons.
Quote from: JudgeBread on September 02, 2015, 10:21:35 AM
Aiming a little high Steven Naismith doesn't strike as the kind of bloke who would be happy with a spot on the bench for Everton week in week out.
I like this line of thinking. Would be excellent to get him, or someone similar. I don't know the rules around the loan window, but someone like that with a window to buy would be perfect.
You do know Everton turned down.... Yes turned down... A bid for Naismith yesterday in the region of 8m?
Do you think they did that so we could loan him?
Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on September 02, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
Do you think they did that so we could loan him?
Quite possibly exactly what they were thinking at the time.
Quote from: MJG on September 02, 2015, 06:21:11 PM
Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on September 02, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
Do you think they did that so we could loan him?
Quite possibly exactly what they were thinking at the time.
I assume that you two are speaking about this from a Fulham perspective?? If so, what is your theory on why they would turn down such an offer in order to allow him to be loaned to us? I'm not fully aware of his situation with Everton.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 02, 2015, 06:27:31 PM
Quote from: MJG on September 02, 2015, 06:21:11 PM
Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on September 02, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
Do you think they did that so we could loan him?
Quite possibly exactly what they were thinking at the time.
I assume that you two are speaking about this from a Fulham perspective?? If so, what is your theory on why they would turn down such an offer in order to allow him to be loaned to us? I'm not fully aware of his situation with Everton.
Sorry I'm just joking about the whole thing.
Get Gayle in for the season and we're cushty.
A poster mentioned Aniechebe. Thought about that one myself
Would cause problems to Championship defences, but has been injury prone in the past.
If he ever played the guy has a injury list longer than Darren Anderton
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Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Aguero doesn't track back enough to benefit our team ;)
I think that my expectations will be enhanced or lowered depending on the work we do during the loan window.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 03, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Is it possible to bring in a few thousand supporters who ... you know ... support the team?
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 03, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Is it possible to bring in a few thousand supporters who ... you know ... support the team?
We already have more than a few thousand that support the team week in week out. Are you saying we get a loan in to replace them? A bit like getting in a forward to replace Woodrow/Dembele?
Just because people moan on here doesn't mean that they don't get behind the team on match days. Football is all about opinions, all football message boards are the same!
Our attendances were very good last year, probably better away than when we were in the premier league!
I do find it amusing that our support is often being knocked from 3000 miles away!!
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2015, 09:14:53 AM
I think the majority would now agree keeper's, defence and central midfield is more than good enough. If we are going to bring in someone it is most likely to be a striker so what are our options?
Gayle possibly now that a permanent move has fallen through, Qpr kept Austin so I would imagine we would be front runners if it was possible.
Hooper- seems the most realistic but I would raise the question. If Norwich were reluctant to loan him without getting a replacement then how can that change in a weeks time now that they are stuck with their squad?
James Wilson- rumours he may be allowed on loan
Lewis Grabban- didnt get his move to Bournemouth and id imagine more likely to be allowed to leave without a replacement than Hooper is.
Jon Walters- handed in a transfer request so something isnt quite right there. Highly unlikely he will go anywhere until Jan but if he does he can only go to the championship.
Danny Graham- God no! But sadly its a realistic option.
Aguero- rumoured to be unsettled in Manchester and wants a swift move down to London. Apparently specifically to a club that plays alongside the banks of the Thames and next to a park but strangly specifically called Bishops Park. I guess it must be us.
Anichebe- if he isn't in the first team plans at WBA.
Fletcher- didnt get a move and has been linked to us in the past few weeks. Wages may be a stumbling block though
Not all my choices but trying to think of our options. Is there anyone else and what do we reckon?
Dannyboi, we have 12 new players signed this summer and I think this has gone to your head and you now have a severe case of transfer fever that needs attention.
Kit has a big job on his hands in getting these players to play as a team and he has to use Woodrow, Dembele or Smith to the best advantage with McCormac to form a potent strike force
Forget transfers now until Christmas and review the situation then, a period of stability is required now.
Quote from: leonffc on September 04, 2015, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 03, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Is it possible to bring in a few thousand supporters who ... you know ... support the team?
We already have more than a few thousand that support the team week in week out. Are you saying we get a loan in to replace them? A bit like getting in a forward to replace Woodrow/Dembele?
Just because people moan on here doesn't mean that they don't get behind the team on match days. Football is all about opinions, all football message boards are the same!
Our attendances were very good last year, probably better away than when we were in the premier league!
I do find it amusing that our support is often being knocked from 3000 miles away!!
No, I'm talking about getting them in to
augment you. It would be nice to hear more than faint booing during our home matches.
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: leonffc on September 04, 2015, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 03, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Is it possible to bring in a few thousand supporters who ... you know ... support the team?
We already have more than a few thousand that support the team week in week out. Are you saying we get a loan in to replace them? A bit like getting in a forward to replace Woodrow/Dembele?
Just because people moan on here doesn't mean that they don't get behind the team on match days. Football is all about opinions, all football message boards are the same!
Our attendances were very good last year, probably better away than when we were in the premier league!
I do find it amusing that our support is often being knocked from 3000 miles away!!
No, I'm talking about getting them in to augment you. It would be nice to hear more than faint booing during our home matches.
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Oh I see , you want louder booing. 090.gif
Quote from: f321ffc on September 04, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: leonffc on September 04, 2015, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 03, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Is it possible to bring in a few thousand supporters who ... you know ... support the team?
We already have more than a few thousand that support the team week in week out. Are you saying we get a loan in to replace them? A bit like getting in a forward to replace Woodrow/Dembele?
Just because people moan on here doesn't mean that they don't get behind the team on match days. Football is all about opinions, all football message boards are the same!
Our attendances were very good last year, probably better away than when we were in the premier league!
I do find it amusing that our support is often being knocked from 3000 miles away!!
No, I'm talking about getting them in to augment you. It would be nice to hear more than faint booing during our home matches.
,
Oh I see , you want louder booing. 090.gif
Lol
Quote from: f321ffc on September 04, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: leonffc on September 04, 2015, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 04, 2015, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 03, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Is it possible to bring a manager in on loan, with a full coaching team.
Is it possible to bring in a few thousand supporters who ... you know ... support the team?
We already have more than a few thousand that support the team week in week out. Are you saying we get a loan in to replace them? A bit like getting in a forward to replace Woodrow/Dembele?
Just because people moan on here doesn't mean that they don't get behind the team on match days. Football is all about opinions, all football message boards are the same!
Our attendances were very good last year, probably better away than when we were in the premier league!
I do find it amusing that our support is often being knocked from 3000 miles away!!
No, I'm talking about getting them in to augment you. It would be nice to hear more than faint booing during our home matches.
,
Oh I see , you want louder booing. 090.gif
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You what pace. I would take Joel Campbell from arsenal
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Quote from: filham on September 04, 2015, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on September 02, 2015, 09:14:53 AM
I think the majority would now agree keeper's, defence and central midfield is more than good enough. If we are going to bring in someone it is most likely to be a striker so what are our options?
Gayle possibly now that a permanent move has fallen through, Qpr kept Austin so I would imagine we would be front runners if it was possible.
Hooper- seems the most realistic but I would raise the question. If Norwich were reluctant to loan him without getting a replacement then how can that change in a weeks time now that they are stuck with their squad?
James Wilson- rumours he may be allowed on loan
Lewis Grabban- didnt get his move to Bournemouth and id imagine more likely to be allowed to leave without a replacement than Hooper is.
Jon Walters- handed in a transfer request so something isnt quite right there. Highly unlikely he will go anywhere until Jan but if he does he can only go to the championship.
Danny Graham- God no! But sadly its a realistic option.
Aguero- rumoured to be unsettled in Manchester and wants a swift move down to London. Apparently specifically to a club that plays alongside the banks of the Thames and next to a park but strangly specifically called Bishops Park. I guess it must be us.
Anichebe- if he isn't in the first team plans at WBA.
Fletcher- didnt get a move and has been linked to us in the past few weeks. Wages may be a stumbling block though
Not all my choices but trying to think of our options. Is there anyone else and what do we reckon?
Dannyboi, we have 12 new players signed this summer and I think this has gone to your head and you now have a severe case of transfer fever that needs attention.
Kit has a big job on his hands in getting these players to play as a team and he has to use Woodrow, Dembele or Smith to the best advantage with McCormac to form a potent strike force
Forget transfers now until Christmas and review the situation then, a period of stability is required now.
Lol I follow the silly season thread all summer and it ends up making me obsessed. I need more signings Kit! Rigg where's that striker???
Dannyboi, with all the encouragement you are providing there is a risk that Kit may rush out and buy a super striker to match Marlet, AJ or Mitroglou. I am afraid if that happens you will have to take most of the responsibility.
There is a lady doctor down the Fulham road familiar with football related matters who could be looking for work soon, she may be able to offer a course of treatment for your condition.
I saw that Nottingham Forest brought two players on loan from Lille and Benfica, so we could have more options. Not sure if we are willing to look abroad though, especially if we only want a short-term loan.
Just read Southampton want to loan out Gaston Ramirez, would be all over that
