We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
Quote from: Russian rob on October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
Give it a rest, please.
Quote from: Logicalman on October 21, 2015, 09:39:47 PM
Quote from: Russian rob on October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
Give it a rest, please.
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Without the Kit abuse, or Kit in / Kit out fanatics, this surely, from a footballing point of view, has to be the end now?
What an absolutely appalling display at home once again. Lost count how many times Lewis, yes Lewis kept us in that game.
OK, we didn't lose, but Jesus, we didn't deserve to win that either. We deserved to lose.
Kit's inability to motivate the team drives me mad, we've got the quality, but has no plan or direction, and the players look lost.
I'm not buying that its the players fault any more, we are clueless from a managerial level, and that includes Kit, Curbishley and the coaching staff.
My backing of Kit is completely finished now and hope the change is made.
This is getting a little dire now. We should have taken 3 points tonight, but yet again stumbled, and that has to finally stop at Kits door. We didn't lose is a bright point, but it is overshadowed by the loss of the other 2 points.
There are a few options out there, but everything is a gamble, whichever way we go.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on October 21, 2015, 09:49:14 PM
Without the Kit abuse, or Kit in / Kit out fanatics, this surely, from a footballing point of view, has to be the end now?
What an absolutely appalling display at home once again. Lost count how many times Lewis, yes Lewis kept us in that game.
OK, we didn't lose, but Jesus, we didn't deserve to win that either. We deserved to lose.
Kit's inability to motivate the team drives me mad, we've got the quality, but has no plan or direction, and the players look lost.
I'm not buying that its the players fault any more, we are clueless from a managerial level, and that includes Kit, Curbishley and the coaching staff.
My backing of Kit is completely finished now and hope the change is made.
:plus one:
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
I was there and we were absolutely terrible. They battered us and with out Lewis it would have been 4 or 5
Quote from: Ordar on October 21, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
I was there and we were absolutely terrible. They battered us and with out Lewis it would have been 4 or 5
So is it that we kid ourselves that we have a squad of players that on paper should be good enough to compete for promotion or are we just blinded by the fact that we are FFC supporters and we expect the impossible?
I was there and it was a clueless uninspiring lackluster display and we were lucky to get a point
Quote from: Russian rob on October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
You are right we won't, but hopefully the idiot who owns the club might!!
It was appalling. I was there as well. The players are good enough but it's just disorganised negative football. At least we're lucky enough to have a good 3rd keeper!
:medal:I commented at sixty minutes.... If we were 4-0 down you would have said it was a fair score. We got a little better towards the end but there is clearly no confidence in the team.
It was obvious it would take them to equalise before kit made any changes when it was blindingly obvious to everyone else we were on the rack.....
The defence just held firm but was a bit wobbly. They had so much space in midfield it was embarrassing. We had no movement at all which is down to bad coaching I'm afraid. No pace out wide until Frederickswhen came on and then they were pinned back a bit more as he is so quick.
No idea what Pringle brings to the team except negative backward passes that I could do. Dembele took his goal well but doesn't jump for the ball and appeared generally uninterested (and I'm a big fan)
I want a. New manager. But a good one please,
I look at the squad and I'm happy with who we have. Pace power width but it just isn't working/happening
Absolute dross.
That's the straw that's broke the camels back for me. I'd like kit to be replaced now. I didn't want him to keep his job at the end of last year but have backed him up until now this season. There were signs that things were improving but I think with the players we have that was just luck or the old infinite chimps theory. Good managers get their teams to improve consistently until they reach their limits or the players limits. I can't say kit has improved us. We just blow hot and cold (mainly cold) and have had no run of good performances under his reign. I'm sure he is a lovely man but I think it's time for a change.
We were awful. We only scored through a Dembele shot which went straight at the keeper somehow squeezing past him. Had Lewis not made at least four excellent saves we would have been hammered and that against a side who were no great shakes themselves. Excellent discussion on TalkSport the other night about the number of teams who go down to the Championship and unless they return pretty quickly, while still receiving parachute payments, seem doomed for a long stay down there. I fear this is the tipping point for FFC. We have wasted enough time already and I seriously feel the club's whole future could rest on what decision the board makes now. To my mind we really can't delay any longer, but then I've been saying that for a year now. I am deeply worried about the situation!
I was there, it was atrocious, the entire team (Minus Moussa, Burn and Lewis) should be ashamed of themselves. No heart at all.
They say everything has to come to an end... Except Kits reign as Fulham ;)
Quote from: JoelH5 on October 21, 2015, 10:50:34 PM
They say everything has to come to an end... Except Kits reign as Fulham ;)
I think it's good things must come to and end.
So he's safe.
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
Completely agree, had you seen the performance tonight you'd not be defending the players or manager, it was disgraceful.
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
I didn't comment on the game. I summarised the Radio London commentary. You have an odd definitionof what constitutes utter dross.
I've just watched the highlights. We featured ONCE (the goal) and Leeds featured 7 times... From listening online I didn't realise how one sided it actually was!
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 10:56:04 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
I didn't comment on the game. I summarised the Radio London commentary. You have an odd definitionof what constitutes utter dross.
Don't comment on what you think is going on where really you don't have a clue.
Quote from: Chutney on October 21, 2015, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
Completely agree, had you seen the performance tonight you'd not be defending the players or manager, it was disgraceful.
Quote the passage where I defended the performance of the players and manager tonight. Actually, don't bother, it's not woth getting into an argument about. I understand people coming away frustrated after a draw or loss at home (it's a feeling I've experienced many times over the last fifty years), but I think some people go overboard about a 1-1 draw at home. I'll accept your opinion that the performance was disgraceful, as I wasn't there, but some people have said the result was a "disaster" and to me, that's hyperbole.
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 10:56:04 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
I didn't comment on the game. I summarised the Radio London commentary. You have an odd definitionof what constitutes utter dross.
Don't comment on what you think is going on where really you don't have a clue.
I thought this was a messageboard where people were allowed to comment, but I'll take your advice and not respond to you any more, because you don't seem prepared to discuss things reasonably.
Both of you. Give it a rest. It was a poor performance. It wasn't a disaster of a result but it wasn't good enough. Kit is a disaster however. Simple as. If he supposedly loves the club he should stop being so egotistical and do what's right... He's like an annoying fly clinging on to life
If he has any self respect, he will admit he's failed and resign.
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
Quote from: Chutney on October 21, 2015, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 21, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Well, don't comment on a game you didn't watch. You have just written utter dross.
Completely agree, had you seen the performance tonight you'd not be defending the players or manager, it was disgraceful.
Quote the passage where I defended the performance of the players and manager tonight. Actually, don't bother, it's not woth getting into an argument about. I understand people coming away frustrated after a draw or loss at home (it's a feeling I've experienced many times over the last fifty years), but I think some people go overboard about a 1-1 draw at home. I'll accept your opinion that the performance was disgraceful, as I wasn't there, but some people have said the result was a "disaster" and to me, that's hyperbole.
The result was not a disaster for the team, but maybe for the supporters as it means Kit will be hanging on in there for a while. We were pretty poor and Leeds can feel more than a bit unlucky but we have all been there before. But we were poor with little organisation in the team and some very poor passing across the pitch where we gave the ball away cheaply and in situations where we could have done some damage. Add to that our shooting was abysmal I could have saved any of the shots which were on target and the rest nearly killed someone in row Z.
Kit won't resign, why would he? I don't care whether he 'loves' the club or not, he's going to stay as manager for as long as he is given and I don't blame him for that. The only way he's going is if he's sacked.
Quote from: jimmyc19 on October 21, 2015, 11:14:41 PM
Kit won't resign, why would he? I don't care whether he 'loves' the club or not, he's going to stay as manager for as long as he is given and I don't blame him for that. The only way he's going is if he's sacked.
If he doesn't resign then not only will he destroy his reputation as a manager but also as a club legend, every day he spends in charge now chips away at all the good memories of his time playing here.
Can't believe that Kit is now quoting that tonight "We never got going" and that it was "1 point gained". True, but why can't the guy ever admit they we were absolutely rubbish, and that 1pt wasn't wasn't good enough.
I have just returned home after drowning my sorrows in the Thames, the cat looked at me and saw the expression on my face and scarpered through the cap flap. I then discovered my dinner in the dog. But my beloved wife anticipated my mood and had a large Cognac waiting for me, and proceeded to stroke my head whilst I proceeded to throw the Cognac down my neck.
As for the game. Well, the fact that Joe Lewis was the man of the match says it all, as a team we were so dull, the passing was poor, and you would have thought that Leeds were the home side. They had more possession and more shots at goal, and on target. They were the better side, and outplayed us. We were lucky to get away with a draw, but more importantly our performance was dire.
A team can mirror it's manager, and let's face it, he is unfortunately too weak, and has no Leadership qualities.
Of course the players have to take responsibility, but ultimately the buck stops with the manager. Whilst Fulham fiddle the team is dropping points in almost every match, and in general the performances are second rate, and tonight once again we were second best.
I don't think the players are playing for him, he clearly cannot motivate, but there is no structure no clear game plan, some players no matter how bad they are never get subbed. Ross is no Captain, he has to be replaced.
The players are under performing, the team is under performing, and the manager looks helpless and clueless.
So where does Kit go from here, he either has to perform a miracle on Saturday, and win and perform well, and he has to make changes, both Fredericks and Cairney should be considered, maybe even Parker and Smith should be considered, but there are others on the bench tonight may be given a chance.
But where is the spirit and the desire and the will to win, there just wasn't enough to get a win.
I wish I could listen to the managers team talks, cause something is fundamentally wrong, and I cannot see Fulham performing like a promotion chasing team under this management team.
Because we have quality players but no organisation, we must be a pleasure to play against, because under Kit, we appear to have a soft underbelly, and that is a recipe for disaster for any manager.
How long will this suffering go on before this situation is resolved.
Maybe it's me, perhaps I am missing the point, but better managers than Kit, have been sacked for less. That doesn't make it right, but assuming he is still in charge on Saturday, he and the players have got to pull something out of the bag v Reading, otherwise we are in for another miserable afternoon.
Surely there can be nobody who thinks that Symons still deserves the honour of being the Fulham manager.
Tactically he is the worst manager I have ever seen. He has no ability to adapt to the opposition, or make meaningful, positive in game adjustments. After the first half, it was obvious that we were getting massacred in midfield as they had the extra man. The obvious solution would have been to either drop McCormack wide (as he was anonymous up front, or bring on Parker to try and solidify the midfield). Neither of course happened and Leeds proceeded to continue to batter us the entire second half.
Coaching wise I have no idea what they are doing during the week. We seem to look more and more disorganised with each passing game. We have conceded the most shots in the league. I expect we've also conceded the most corners as it seems to average about 8 a game. Players are devolving under Symons, LVC especially.
Team selection. I'm not convinced we can continue with the total lack of pace in the side. The attacks are so pedestrian and easy to defend. Does Pringle and LVC deserve to be playing?
Today's performance was nothing short of shocking. Unfortunately it wasn't unexpected as that's how we've played under Symons. Dominated in almost every game, tactically inept, no commitment. No team.
Get him out NOW
But he won't, you know that. He'll get the dreaded vote of confidence, by a clueless owner, who's only interest in being over here, is to oversea the Jaguars on Sunday, not Fulham. I do get all this stability, we need it, but not from Kit. He's so far out of depth that it's painful. Every game is becoming painful.
I was there too and the posts above cover my thoughts perfectly.
Burn and Lewis saved us. Passing and control across midfield poor. Pringle can't tackle and seems to have lost confidence to look up and forwards. LVC weak all round and very wasteful with the ball.
I also agree we have a strong squad of players, with good cover in all positions but we don't look or play as a team and have no direction or obvious gameplan. Once teams see what they're facing you can see them growing in confidence.
We played again like the away team and the stats bear this out. They had 16 shots to our 11, 8 on target to our 2, 34 crosses to our 15 (nothing new there) and most tellingly, 213 attacking passes to our 115. Nearly 100 more attacking passes by the away team. Thank goodness their passing accuracy at 72% was not much better than our 68%. Our keeper was clearly instructed to punt the ball high and long at every opportunity but for gods sake why? They won most duels virtually unchallenged and of the 38 recorded ariel duels across the park Leeds won 27. This being the case, why did we not change tactics? The only stat we topped them on was fouls, by 16 to 10.
By any standards, this is unacceptable and clearly points to a failure of all concerned but, of course, the buck stops with the leader.
In answer to the unfortunate poster who wasn't there tonight. Most of us can live with wins, draws and defeats but we cannot live with a tangible lack of progress and repeated dire performances, where players appear to struggle to find or create space to play and constantly get out-tackled, out-passed and out-thought.
As with the persistence with punted long balls, despite their evident failure, how long must we persist with this coaching team, despite their evident inability to offer good leadership and motivation?
I hope Mr.Khan's people are seeing and hearing what we are all feeling. We can't all be wrong can we!
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Are you Kit Symons....
Time for a change.
Quote from: Texas White on October 22, 2015, 12:26:52 AM
Quote from: Plodder on October 21, 2015, 09:56:44 PM
I didn't see the game either (assuming you too weren't there), but judging from the BBC London commentary, it didn't sound like an "appalling" display. 1-1 against Leeds isn't a good result, but neither is it a disaster in my view. I suppose it boils down to what you think is a realistic expectation with our current squad. Personally, I think it's a very open league and our squad is not markedly better or worse than most, but it's a matter of opinion. I certainly agree we can do without the insults flying between people who have different opinions.
Are you Kit Symons....
Time for a change.
I disagree completely with Plodder's point of view, but what is clear is that scoring points off each other without any meaningful arguments is, frankly, a little lame.
No, I wasn't there. Yes, we played poorly. I privately set him a target of 10 points within five games before QPR, and he's only got six, whereas we really should have beaten Charlton (8) but for a very poor third substitution (he should have brought Dan Burn on rather than Mattila, especially considering we'd already conceded one free header), and tonight we somehow nearly got three points (had Burn landed the last minute header or Lewis not made his one mistake of the night), which would have given him the 10 points I wanted. But for the QPR game, we haven't won since Blackburn, and that feels like a very long time ago. Three wins in 12 games is also very poor. I don't think our squad is
the best, but it's better than 13th.
I bet Simon Jordan (Former Crystal Palace owner) can't wait to say to us all "I told you so", after his infamous quote of "Nice bloke but can't manage" when asked about Symons,
Lambert for me, if not then Pearson, and to think we had Hughton with us during the summer of 2014 !
Quote from: One James stannard on October 21, 2015, 10:19:14 PM
I look at the squad and I'm happy with who we have. Pace power width but it just isn't working/happening
We don't have pace other than one full back. We don't have power. Who on earth in our squad has power? And we clearly don't have any width as every single one of our wide players looks to cut in every time. Apart from Kacka but he is useless anyway.
Our squad is average once you take the fulham rose tinted specs off. Our manager is also average. It means we are in for a very average season at best.
I was there.
The result wasn't a disaster but the performance was and its starting to look like another disastrous season.
Quote from: davew on October 21, 2015, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Russian rob on October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
You are right we won't, but hopefully the idiot who owns the club might!!
I would love to be an idiot with couple of billion quid in the bank,
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 08:49:16 AM
Quote from: davew on October 21, 2015, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Russian rob on October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
You are right we won't, but hopefully the idiot who owns the club might!!
I would love to be an idiot with couple of billion quid in the bank,
I'm an idiot with sweet f a in the bank. Mr Kahn is no idiot....he sent back my begging letter ...collect
Hand our season tickets in?
I have faith in Khan. I think he learns from his mistakes and thus why he is successful in other parts of his businesses. I think he would have learnt from our previous miss management mistakes and is at the moment considering options. I think Kit is sliding towards the door, the question is when he actually goes and who to replace him with, are there better options available at the moment or when will there be.
Why is it we always assume that sack and manager and the next one in will be better.
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 08:49:16 AM
Quote from: davew on October 21, 2015, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Russian rob on October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
We will never get rid of Kit no matter what.What is our next best option therefore?
You are right we won't, but hopefully the idiot who owns the club might!!
I would love to be an idiot with couple of billion quid in the bank,
Well at least you're half way there!! (only kidding)
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
Why is it we always assume that sack and manager and the next one in will be better.
I agree, as I said on another thread, I pray that we don't get rid of Kit just to find ourselves with a Felix MkII, and this time next year are bemoaning the club as we sit in Div 1.
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
Why is it we always assume that sack and manager and the next one in will be better.
I've never thought Kit would be better than Felix.
I have a wait and see approach.
The waiting is over and we can see from the results.
Next.
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
Why is it we always assume that sack and manager and the next one in will be better.
Because we look at the manager we've got and can see that the next one would have to be unusually poor to do worse?
Good managers get you out of this league, look at the top 6 all have good managers
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
Why is it we always assume that sack and manager and the next one in will be better.
if that logic followed, then all incumbent managers would have a job for life.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on October 22, 2015, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 22, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
Why is it we always assume that sack and manager and the next one in will be better.
if that logic followed, then all incumbent managers would have a job for life.
There you go. Then again, it seems to me that the most successful of English League teams do tend to keep their managers that little bit longer than those that are not as successful.
Quote from: Logicalman on October 22, 2015, 02:29:33 PM
Then again, it seems to me that the most successful of English League teams do tend to keep their managers that little bit longer than those that are not as successful.
Stability may breed success, but in my view, more often than not, it is a case of success breeds stability. A manager who gets his team promoted in his second season in charge is far more likely to have a stable job going into his third season than someone who, in that time, is unable to improve his team's fortunes.
Quote from: JDH101 on October 22, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
Quote from: One James stannard on October 21, 2015, 10:19:14 PM
I look at the squad and I'm happy with who we have. Pace power width but it just isn't working/happening
We don't have pace other than one full back. We don't have power. Who on earth in our squad has power? And we clearly don't have any width as every single one of our wide players looks to cut in every time. Apart from Kacka but he is useless anyway.
Our squad is average once you take the fulham rose tinted specs off. Our manager is also average. It means we are in for a very average season at best.
Apologies because this doesn't quite fit with the thread but how an earth does Moussa Dembele not have power? He's got bags of it ...
Quote from: Berserker on October 22, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
I have faith in Khan. I think he learns from his mistakes and thus why he is successful in other parts of his businesses. I think he would have learnt from our previous miss management mistakes and is at the moment considering options. I think Kit is sliding towards the door, the question is when he actually goes and who to replace him with, are there better options available at the moment or when will there be.
i usually agree with you but I am afraid I cannot see that he has learned from his errors so far and the lack of success at the jags suggests he may not be suited to sports ownership.
i am totally pessimistic about the rest of the season and the season to follow. there is not even the first glimmer of light showing. the board of directors have presided over continuing abject failure and remain in place.... even the sale of ruiz was a comedy of errors.
we need a top level revamp... nothing good will happen till we get a keegan like figure in the club that knows what needs to be done and how to get it done.
Quote from: nose on October 22, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
Quote from: Berserker on October 22, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
I have faith in Khan. I think he learns from his mistakes and thus why he is successful in other parts of his businesses. I think he would have learnt from our previous miss management mistakes and is at the moment considering options. I think Kit is sliding towards the door, the question is when he actually goes and who to replace him with, are there better options available at the moment or when will there be.
i usually agree with you but I am afraid I cannot see that he has learned from his errors so far and the lack of success at the jags suggests he may not be suited to sports ownership.
i am totally pessimistic about the rest of the season and the season to follow. there is not even the first glimmer of light showing. the board of directors have presided over continuing abject failure and remain in place.... even the sale of ruiz was a comedy of errors.
we need a top level revamp... nothing good will happen till we get a keegan like figure in the club that knows what needs to be done and how to get it done.
I agree on your sentiments there, though the rub comes with the fact that Kahn is the owner and the board is both chosen, and presided over, by him. If he has not the wherewithal to be able to run an English footie sports team, then we do have bigger issues at hand as he will not see that the board needs such changes.
I think his 'success' or otherwise with the jags is superfluous to his ownership of Fulham, or any English Footie team for that matter, as the leagues differ so very much in both the transfer policy and the measure of success. If we were in the prem, and to fail simply means that we came bottom, without the fear of relegation, then we would be somewhat of a 'success', but the leagues differ completely in that respect, and I would hope that Khan has that simple, but quite vital, fact internally digested by this time.
