Interested to see that Stearman made a rare appearance on the bench yesterday. But will Ream be the best choice on the left side of a back three? Or will we play a back 4 now we have Tunni and Baird and Parker all in the frame for Boro?
Burn is a left footer, but if a back 3 Reem is the obvious replacement, if Jok goes 442 then Madl and Burn would be ok in my eyes.
We've got to look at the potential of Luke Garbutt being out also and no other left backs. Few options:
- Flat back four with Tim Ream filling in at left back, with Dan Burn and Michael Madl in the middle.
- Stick with 352, Tim Ream or Richard Stearman slotting in where Fernando Amorebieta would be with Alex Kacaniklic at wing back.
- Flat back four with Ashley Richards at left back, with Dan Burn and Michael Madl in the middle.
- Stick with a 352, Tim Ream or Richard Stearman slotting in where Fernando Amorebieta would be with Ashley Richards at wing back.
- We could recall Jordan Evans or Sean Kavanagh from their loans and play either at wing back with Tim Ream or Richard Stearman at left centre back.
I would probably err on the side of sticking with a 352 with Ashely Richards going to the other side and either Ream or Stearman next to Burn with Madl the other side. Scott Parker coming back in, maybe give Ryan Tunnicliffe an hour before replacing with Chris Baird/Jamie O'Hara (depending on game) with Tom Cairney roaming behind the two strikers.
We all new that Lovebite was a red card waiting to happen but he and Burn were working well and without him we could well have a problem that Boro will be quick to exploit.
How about Madle Baird Burn for a back three.
Quote from: filham on February 24, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
We all new that Lovebite was a red card waiting to happen but he and Burn were working well and without him we could well have a problem that Boro will be quick to exploit.
How about Madle Baird Burn for a back three.
I like that but with Burn (left footer) Modl centre and Bairdinho right. Good call.
If we stick with the recent formation, I propose Hutchinson.
Not because I rate him but because he is more aggressive and stronger in the challenge than Stearman & Ream.
But if Garbutts out it could be all change for Saturday, surely not another chance for Kaca ?
I'd like to give Stearman a go in a straight swap.
I don't think he's as bad as others make out, and against Boro, I feel that he will be more effective than Ream ( as he is more tenacious)
I also think, that given a good game, and potentially a little run in the team, we could see him back to his achievable form, which is better than Burn and Amorebieta's best imo.
For me, Hutchinson should be out on loan to League 1 or League 2.
Like the look of Madl though - very dependable
I'd like to see us stick with 3 at the back, Lonergan, Madl Burn Ream, Fredericks Parker Cairney Tunnicliffe Kacaniklic, Mccormack Dembele
I'd say Stearman for Amore and Ream for Garbutt, if he's out. Not ideal but it has to be defence first against Boro, and Tim's a pretty classy player with the ball but will need to get forward way more than he's used to.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on February 24, 2016, 01:50:25 PM
If we stick with the recent formation, I propose Hutchinson.
Not because I rate him but because he is more aggressive and stronger in the challenge than Stearman & Ream.
But if Garbutts out it could be all change for Saturday, surely not another chance for Kaca ?
Kaca did ok last night in the wing back role. It's obviously more of an attacking than defending role for him what did you think of his performance last night?
Is garbutt out then? I hadn't heard that.
Quote from: twang on February 24, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
I'd say Stearman for Amore and Ream for Garbutt, if he's out. Not ideal but it has to be defence first against Boro, and Tim's a pretty classy player with the ball but will need to get forward way more than he's used to.
+1 Ream is too polite to be a CB
I'd play Stearman and get Burn back on his left peg.
Although Burn has done ok (only ok, not brilliant) he scares the life out of me with the ball on his left foot so whilst we are playing out on his right my health is suffering.
Stearman for me as well (assuming we stick with 5-3-2) - he has the most ability out of him Ream and Hutchinson, I think he was just having a bad time of it and his confidence had taken a knock. Hopefully missing a few games will have allowed him to refocus and get back towards his best
Quote from: J on February 24, 2016, 02:45:44 PM
Stearman for me as well (assuming we stick with 5-3-2) - he has the most ability out of him Ream and Hutchinson, I think he was just having a bad time of it and his confidence had taken a knock. Hopefully missing a few games will have allowed him to refocus and get back towards his best
Saying that, the fact that he is right footed does complicate matters as Burn is potentially best in the centre of the 3...
Quote from: MJG on February 24, 2016, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on February 24, 2016, 01:50:25 PM
If we stick with the recent formation, I propose Hutchinson.
Not because I rate him but because he is more aggressive and stronger in the challenge than Stearman & Ream.
But if Garbutts out it could be all change for Saturday, surely not another chance for Kaca ?
Kaca did ok last night in the wing back role. It's obviously more of an attacking than defending role for him what did you think of his performance last night?
I wasn't at the game last night but I have seen enough and find it hard to see any future with him, I do however accept sometimes decisions have to be made to keep the balance of the team.
Quote from: @jolslover on February 24, 2016, 01:56:58 PM
I'd like to see us stick with 3 at the back, Lonergan, Madl Burn Ream, Fredericks Parker Cairney Tunnicliffe Kacaniklic, Mccormack Dembele
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Lonegan
Baird Madl Burn
Fred Parker Ream/Kavangh
LVC/Tunni Cairney
Ross Moussa
Subs: Richards, LVC/Tunni Hydman O'Hara Stearman Smith
I can only assume that Jova was happy with the draw last night. the game was
crying out for a 10/15 minute cameo by Smith against his old club and I can't
remember GJ mentioning Moussa in the last 15/20 minutes.
Their defence was a bit shaky and not very tall
Amas or Amat, maybe?
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on February 24, 2016, 05:07:56 PM
Lonegan
Baird Madl Burn
Fred Parker Ream/Kavangh
LVC/Tunni Cairney
Ross Moussa
Subs: Richards, LVC/Tunni Hydman O'Hara Stearman Smith
I can only assume that Jova was happy with the draw last night. the game was
crying out for a 10/15 minute cameo by Smith against his old club and I can't
remember GJ mentioning Moussa in the last 15/20 minutes.
Their defence was a bit shaky and not very tall
Kavanagh is out on loan
Quote from: MJG on February 24, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on February 24, 2016, 05:07:56 PM
Lonegan
Baird Madl Burn
Fred Parker Ream/Kavangh
LVC/Tunni Cairney
Ross Moussa
Subs: Richards, LVC/Tunni Hydman O'Hara Stearman Smith
I can only assume that Jova was happy with the draw last night. the game was
crying out for a 10/15 minute cameo by Smith against his old club and I can't
remember GJ mentioning Moussa in the last 15/20 minutes.
Their defence was a bit shaky and not very tall
Kavanagh is out on loan
Can't he be recalled ?
Unlikely I know
I can only surmise that amongst other attributes SJ likes about Amorebieta is that he tries to 'bully' opposition forwards if he can.
In his early games I thought Stearman approached the game like that as well but maybe he started losing confidence when we were on a poor run.
Madl has impressed me recently, and the 4 at the back did not do well against what should have been a poor Charlton team, so maybe Burn, Madl and Stearman might be a good shout against Boro.
Hopefully whoever replaces Amorebieta does so well they take his place, not because it is Amorebieta particularly, but simply that there is the right sort of competition for places in the starting XI.
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on February 24, 2016, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 24, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on February 24, 2016, 05:07:56 PM
Lonegan
Baird Madl Burn
Fred Parker Ream/Kavangh
LVC/Tunni Cairney
Ross Moussa
Subs: Richards, LVC/Tunni Hydman O'Hara Stearman Smith
I can only assume that Jova was happy with the draw last night. the game was
crying out for a 10/15 minute cameo by Smith against his old club and I can't
remember GJ mentioning Moussa in the last 15/20 minutes.
Their defence was a bit shaky and not very tall
Kavanagh is out on loan
Can't he be recalled ?
Unlikely I know
Remember he's hardly getting any game time at Mansfield...mostly on the bench
Have to agree I don't think Stearman is as bad as people make him to be. I would do either Stearman or Ream in a straight swap.
Stearman for Amorebieta
Ream for Garbutt
Ream is very good on the ball.
A spell on the sides may make Stearman much improved. A very capable centre half on his day
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 24, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
Stearman for Amorebieta
Ream for Garbutt
Ream is very good on the ball.
A spell on the sides may make Stearman much improved. A very capable centre half on his day
If we stick to a back 3 there's no way Ream should be playing wing back, he may be good on the ball when he has it but the game will just pass him by.
A classic LB position maybe but wing back never!
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on February 25, 2016, 12:09:39 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 24, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
Stearman for Amorebieta
Ream for Garbutt
Ream is very good on the ball.
A spell on the sides may make Stearman much improved. A very capable centre half on his day
If we stick to a back 3 there's no way Ream should be playing wing back, he may be good on the ball when he has it but the game will just pass him by.
A classic LB position maybe but wing back never!
Have to agree here. Ream is not a wing back as doesn't really get forward or go 1v1. He is more your calm on the ball find a good pass guy.
Quote from: copthornemike on February 24, 2016, 06:03:09 PM
I can only surmise that amongst other attributes SJ likes about Amorebieta is that he tries to 'bully' opposition forwards if he can.
In his early games I thought Stearman approached the game like that as well but maybe he started losing confidence when we were on a poor run.
Madl has impressed me recently, and the 4 at the back did not do well against what should have been a poor Charlton team, so maybe Burn, Madl and Stearman might be a good shout against Boro.
Hopefully whoever replaces Amorebieta does so well they take his place, not because it is Amorebieta particularly, but simply that there is the right sort of competition for places in the starting XI.
I do remember Stearman dishing it out, and thinking he was lucky not to get a card. I was impressed by him at first.
But I suppose he lacks the height and presence of Burn and Amoriebieta, and conceding from corners and set pieces was a big problem, and we are certainly seem to be coping much better defensively with the latter set- up.
Play a defensive side against Middlesborough
Maybe 4-3-1-2
AL
RF. DB. MM. LG.
SP. CB. JOH.
TC.
MS. RM.
I'd like to see Smith over Dembele this weekend
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Ream is the obvious choice, left footed and looked OKAY when played previously, Stearman is awful.
Quote from: Chutney on February 25, 2016, 03:01:28 PM
Ream is the obvious choice, left footed and looked OKAY when played previously, Stearman is awful.
Yeah I don't rate stearman he's too slow
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Quote from: declanover on February 25, 2016, 02:51:42 PM
Play a defensive side against Middlesborough
Maybe 4-3-1-2
AL
RF. DB. MM. LG.
SP. CB. JOH.
TC.
MS. RM.
I'd like to see Smith over Dembele this weekend
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We went for that shape against Charlton and weren't very good at all. If we're to go defensive, I think we'd have to go with one striker and play a 4411 with Parker and Baird sitting in front of the back four. Cairney behind Ross or Moussa. Fredericks right midfield with Jazz Richards behind him, Kacaniklic or Labyad on the left.
I think Middlesbrough would tear us apart if we went with that diamond.
When was the last time we played 4411? I agree to playing cairney behind our forwards, but the team benefits from more than a lone striker imo
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Quote from: declanover on February 25, 2016, 04:25:59 PM
When was the last time we played 4411? I agree to playing cairney behind our forwards, but the team benefits from more than a lone striker imo
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I'm not saying play that, I posted earlier what I'd do (stick with 352 with Richards flipped over to the right hand side). My reply to you was me just saying how I'd play it if we were to go defensive.
