His agent is at it again. Reports on the Albion equivalent forum that he might be going for £15m. The response is lukewarm to derisory.
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?336860-Ross-McCormack
Where do they dig this stuff up from?
Why would he want to go there,I should think he gets
their total wage bill every week now at the Cottage.
He won't leave this summer.
Just listen/read his comments after the new contract.
Talks about being sold a vision and big plans for the summer at the club,.
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Well I kind of understand their reactions...
Just assuming they do go up, would you want to spend £15m on someone who will be 30 years old when the new season gets underway, and unproven at a premier league level? It would be a hell of a gamble.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Sorry for being thick but how can we get 5 million for Moussa if his contract is up this July?
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 21, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Sorry for being thick but how can we get 5 million for Moussa if his contract is up this July?
Compensation
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 21, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Sorry for being thick but how can we get 5 million for Moussa if his contract is up this July?
Compensation
Sorry for being thicker, but how do we get compensation for a player that is out of contract?
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 21, 2016, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 21, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Sorry for being thick but how can we get 5 million for Moussa if his contract is up this July?
Compensation
Sorry for being thicker, but how do we get compensation for a player that is out of contract?
In the paper today
Fulham will seek 8.5 million in compensation.
Tribunal..
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 21, 2016, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 21, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Sorry for being thick but how can we get 5 million for Moussa if his contract is up this July?
Compensation
Sorry for being thicker, but how do we get compensation for a player that is out of contract?
Where a professional player, under the age of 24, has been offered a new contract by his club (subject to certain requirements that the offer must meet set out in Rule 64.3 of the Football League Rules) and he rejects that offer in order to take up the opportunity to sign for another club, compensation will be payable. This is not to be confused with training compensation under the EPPP regime (that applies to Academy players), an entirely different proposition.
In the majority of cases, clubs will reach mutual agreement on a compensation fee. However, in others the two clubs' valuations will differ, sometimes significantly, and the matter will need to be settled through an arbitration process.
So £8.5M is our price depends what Chelsea think.
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 21, 2016, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 21, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Can't see it if they don't go up. I think next season Brighton will fizzle out. I heard Dunk has an agreement that if Brighton don't go up he's on his way to us. He had his heart set on a move and according to people I've spoken to he had a deposit on a house nearby. Brighton triggered an extension in his contract and the move fell through. That's why he was dropped for the game against us.
Might be bull but I can see it happening if they end up missing out. McCormack will end up with another contract here.
Also heard Dembele to Chelsea for 5 million compensation with him loaned back for the season. That would be a good deal for us in the circumstances but he'd be mad to go there. They didn't even give Lukaku or De Bruyne a chance!
Sorry for being thick but how can we get 5 million for Moussa if his contract is up this July?
Compensation
Sorry for being thicker, but how do we get compensation for a player that is out of contract?
If a home grown academy product leaves on a "free," the initial parent club are entitled to compensation which is formed to decide how much should be paid based on a number of different factors.
Alternatively, you can agree on a fee "out of court" if you so wish. I understand Tottenham made a bid for Danny Ings infamously a month before his contract expired; a bid of £12m (which was rejected presumably based on payment structure) would have seen Tottenham have more "exclusivity" to Ings and the right to talk to him first. In the end, Ings decided to join Liverpool; and from what I understand, compensation still is yet to be sorted - mess I know.
However, were Moussa Dembele to leave abroad, the rules are different. We will likely receive something along the lines of £300k (example Muamer Tankovic).
Right now - it's looking good for us to get at least £5m were Dembele to join one of the Premier League's big boys - and there's a solid chance of that being more. Players like Dembele are integral to Chelsea's (in my opinion, disgusting) business model - and £6m is very little to them. They can get Dembele first, they know he doesn't have to move homes and we get him for another season.
Hope that's cleared somethings up - I can go into the factors if you wish.
That's what I've heard, we've met a middle ground of 5 million compensation to prevent the need for a tribunal and as an extra incentive for us we get him back on loan for a season. Let's face it, even Dembele must realise he will be straight back out on loan so it makes sense to stay here. I personally think he's mad, he'd be better off at Spurs. I know that hasn't been the case in the past for the likes of Davis but spurs seem different now and their manager would improve him.
I think 5 mill and keeping him for a year is a decent deal considering he's out of contract. It means we don't have to splash out to replace his goals and have 5 mill to spend elsewhere. Add that to the money for Mitroglou and all of a sudden we have 11 odd million to spend before we even touch Khans money. Plus the wages saved on some journeymen like Ohara, Stek and possibly Amorebieta.
Hmm...
Better off at Spurs?
But if he is sensible and signs with us for another 3 years, he is guaranteed a starting spot, improves his all-round game and eventually (before contract ends if... Continues to improve) gets a massive move/deal anyway!
He wins and we win, and let's be honest here - he owes us at least another year!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on April 21, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
Hmm...
Better off at Spurs?
But if he is sensible and signs with us for another 3 years, he is guaranteed a starting spot, improves his all-round game and eventually (before contract ends if... Continues to improve) gets a massive move/deal anyway!
He wins and we win, and let's be honest here - he owes us at least another year!
I don't believe he owes us anything. He's got 15 goals and is presumably on rather less money than other strikers achieving similar results in the Championship. I'd be delighted to see him stay, but if he goes, he goes with my gratitude for one heck of a first full season of first team football.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on April 21, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
Hmm...
Better off at Spurs?
But if he is sensible and signs with us for another 3 years, he is guaranteed a starting spot, improves his all-round game and eventually (before contract ends if... Continues to improve) gets a massive move/deal anyway!
He wins and we win, and let's be honest here - he owes us at least another year!
I agree with you. That just seems too far off at the moment so I just feel Spurs would be better for his career than Chelsea would.
Quote from: Shredhead on April 21, 2016, 12:26:06 PM
His agent is at it again. Reports on the Albion equivalent forum that he might be going for £15m. The response is lukewarm to derisory.
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?336860-Ross-McCormack
Let's negotiate with them over McCormack, make the negotiations drag on for 2 months then tell them he's not for sale , revenge for the Dunk fiasco.
He won't be going nowhere this summer, not after just signing a 4 year contract, unless it's mega money and we have nailed on replacement.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on April 21, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
Hmm...
Better off at Spurs?
But if he is sensible and signs with us for another 3 years, he is guaranteed a starting spot, improves his all-round game and eventually (before contract ends if... Continues to improve) gets a massive move/deal anyway!
He wins and we win, and let's be honest here - he owes us at least another year!
He owes us nothing. However if we can do a loan back deal, great.
Quote from: Twig on April 22, 2016, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on April 21, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
Hmm...
Better off at Spurs?
But if he is sensible and signs with us for another 3 years, he is guaranteed a starting spot, improves his all-round game and eventually (before contract ends if... Continues to improve) gets a massive move/deal anyway!
He wins and we win, and let's be honest here - he owes us at least another year!
He owes us nothing. However if we can do a loan back deal, great.
Not going to happen!!!!
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on April 21, 2016, 07:17:24 PM
That's what I've heard, we've met a middle ground of 5 million compensation to prevent the need for a tribunal and as an extra incentive for us we get him back on loan for a season. Let's face it, even Dembele must realise he will be straight back out on loan so it makes sense to stay here. I personally think he's mad, he'd be better off at Spurs. I know that hasn't been the case in the past for the likes of Davis but spurs seem different now and their manager would improve him.
I think 5 mill and keeping him for a year is a decent deal considering he's out of contract. It means we don't have to splash out to replace his goals and have 5 mill to spend elsewhere. Add that to the money for Mitroglou and all of a sudden we have 11 odd million to spend before we even touch Khans money. Plus the wages saved on some journeymen like Ohara, Stek and possibly Amorebieta.
Curious where you've heard this and how reputable the source was.
You know I can see this speculation and rumour on our strikers going on and on all through the summer. Just hope it doesn't distract our management from addressing our defensive short comings.
