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Title: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
McCormack is gone and riverside won't be built. Gutted
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Fulham Tup North on July 22, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
McCormack is gone and riverside won't be built. Gutted
Why?  Was McCormack doing the Building contract?
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Lighthouse on July 22, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
Well this is what happens when you talk to a 'family member'. In future keep it zipped.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
Well this is what happens when you talk to a 'family member'. In future keep it zipped.
to keep false pretenses alive?
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
Surely the fst already knew that the Riverside wasn't happening
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: westcliff white on July 22, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
Everything is false until it is announced
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Lighthouse on July 22, 2016, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 22, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
Well this is what happens when you talk to a 'family member'. In future keep it zipped.
to keep false pretenses alive?

No for modesty.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 22, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
Everything is false until it is announced
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: westcliff white on July 22, 2016, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on July 22, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
Everything is false until it is announced
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: filham on July 23, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
You have to realise that at this moment we are our lowest point for over twenty years and therefore major building projects and expensive strikers have to drop way down on the list of priorities.

A leaky ball cock in the Cottage toilet and a big ugly centre half have to be thought about first.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Sir Alec of good Stock on July 23, 2016, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
You have to realise that at this moment we are our lowest point for over twenty years and therefore major building projects and expensive strikers have to drop way down on the list of priorities.

A leaky ball cock in the Cottage toilet and a big ugly centre half have to be thought about first.

Compared to the 80s when we gave up their time in the off season to paint the crush barriers and generally help tidy up the ground as best we could, things aren't really so bad nowadays. By getting involved with trying to keep the club afloat when things were as bad as they could get, I think that we all felt more of a part of the club and it became even closer to our hearts.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: win-dup on July 23, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on July 22, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
McCormack is gone and riverside won't be built. Gutted
Why?  Was McCormack doing the Building contract?

Haha very good. Sure as hell nobody else is!
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Steven Ageroad on July 23, 2016, 12:15:36 PM
Any other good FFC news from your family member?

Has Hilda got a new tea trolley?
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: davew on July 23, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
McCormack is gone and riverside won't be built. Gutted
Surely that isn't a surprise Ben, SJ knew about it when he did the post friendly interview, it was obvious!!!! He will probably be leaving soon and who would blame him??
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 23, 2016, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: davew on July 23, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
McCormack is gone and riverside won't be built. Gutted
Surely that isn't a surprise Ben, SJ knew about it when he did the post friendly interview, it was obvious!!!! He will probably be leaving soon and who would blame him??
more gutted about the Riverside personally. I know the signs were there when work didn't commence but I was still hanging onto some Hope
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: love4ffc on July 23, 2016, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 23, 2016, 04:25:25 PM
We must all live in hope. It's a new season and a new challenge.
0001.jpeg Agree
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.
As we are nowhere near capacity at games it really is not necessary to increase the ground size, would we fill it , probably not.
As far as Ross is concerned I am just sick of the whole transfer window nonsense surrounding him, every window is he isn't he, give him a new contract in January same fiasco. I am not bothered if he stays or goes as I am fed up with whole annual saga.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on July 24, 2016, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.
As we are nowhere near capacity at games it really is not necessary to increase the ground size, would we fill it , probably not.
As far as Ross is concerned I am just sick of the whole transfer window nonsense surrounding him, every window is he isn't he, give him a new contract in January same fiasco. I am not bothered if he stays or goes as I am fed up with whole annual saga.
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I totally agree with your comments on this.

I know in this day and age everyone from the media to the  ball boys will interpret the most innocent comment whichever way they
fancy but when all you get it half truths and riddles its time say, enough!

I suppose this is all part of the dance that has to go on until the deed is done, and the sooner the better.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: hovewhite on July 24, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Ross a brilliant player,and until the club say he's sold he's our player.some comments could be considered liable but the mods should be making the call on these comments.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 24, 2016, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 24, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Ross a brilliant player,and until the club say he's sold he's our player.some comments could be considered liable but the mods should be making the call on these comments.
it's 100% from riggs so can't be libel as it's not false.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Lighthouse on July 24, 2016, 09:59:13 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 24, 2016, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 24, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Ross a brilliant player,and until the club say he's sold he's our player.some comments could be considered liable but the mods should be making the call on these comments.
it's 100% from riggs so can't be libel as it's not false.

Well the problem is you state on the first post that Ross has gone and the Riverside won't be built. Ross is still here and The Riverside is going to have some work done do it. Even if it is only cosmetic.

So the tone and suggestion of the post can be construed as being inaccurate and untrue. So Ross is going and no major works at the Riverside according to what you have heard would be more accurate. However as both subjects have been widely discussed before neither come as in any way insightful or shocking.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.
As we are nowhere near capacity at games it really is not necessary to increase the ground size, would we fill it , probably not.
As far as Ross is concerned I am just sick of the whole transfer window nonsense surrounding him, every window is he isn't he, give him a new contract in January same fiasco. I am not bothered if he stays or goes as I am fed up with whole annual saga.


I agree with you on all fronts.  We always go through these things that are completely out of our control as if we can prevent them happening but year-in/year-out they repeat.   I stopped getting upset about it a long time ago.  Let things unfold as they always do.   With or without Ross, and with or without a stadium development there is a football season to be played out on pitches where all the talking is done by the players.  I hope they drown out the moaning.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.
As we are nowhere near capacity at games it really is not necessary to increase the ground size, would we fill it , probably not.
As far as Ross is concerned I am just sick of the whole transfer window nonsense surrounding him, every window is he isn't he, give him a new contract in January same fiasco. I am not bothered if he stays or goes as I am fed up with whole annual saga.


I agree with you on all fronts.  We always go through these things that are completely out of our control as if we can prevent them happening but year-in/year-out they repeat.   I stopped getting upset about it a long time ago.  Let things unfold as they always do.   With or without Ross, and with or without a stadium development there is a football season to be played out on pitches where all the talking is done by the players.  I hope they drown out the moaning.

So do I, but the moaning won't go away whilst the club keep the fans guessing, I use to think it was a fans club, but since this absent and disinterested chairman has taken over, the club is no longer fan friendly like it use to be.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on July 24, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.
As we are nowhere near capacity at games it really is not necessary to increase the ground size, would we fill it , probably not.
As far as Ross is concerned I am just sick of the whole transfer window nonsense surrounding him, every window is he isn't he, give him a new contract in January same fiasco. I am not bothered if he stays or goes as I am fed up with whole annual saga.


I agree with you on all fronts.  We always go through these things that are completely out of our control as if we can prevent them happening but year-in/year-out they repeat.   I stopped getting upset about it a long time ago.  Let things unfold as they always do.   With or without Ross, and with or without a stadium development there is a football season to be played out on pitches where all the talking is done by the players.  I hope they drown out the moaning.

So do I, but the moaning won't go away whilst the club keep the fans guessing, I use to think it was a fans club, but since this absent and disinterested chairman has taken over, the club is no longer fan friendly like it use to be.


And my Woolly friend, that is the essence of it all.

People can argue as much as they like over this that and the other but the perception of more and more fans is the club are taking us for a ride!
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: The Rock on July 25, 2016, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 24, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.
As we are nowhere near capacity at games it really is not necessary to increase the ground size, would we fill it , probably not.
As far as Ross is concerned I am just sick of the whole transfer window nonsense surrounding him, every window is he isn't he, give him a new contract in January same fiasco. I am not bothered if he stays or goes as I am fed up with whole annual saga.


I agree with you on all fronts.  We always go through these things that are completely out of our control as if we can prevent them happening but year-in/year-out they repeat.   I stopped getting upset about it a long time ago.  Let things unfold as they always do.   With or without Ross, and with or without a stadium development there is a football season to be played out on pitches where all the talking is done by the players.  I hope they drown out the moaning.

So do I, but the moaning won't go away whilst the club keep the fans guessing, I use to think it was a fans club, but since this absent and disinterested chairman has taken over, the club is no longer fan friendly like it use to be.

It's amazing there aren't more sensible posts like this about how poor the ownership has been. It does start at the top.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Two Ton Ted on July 25, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
This club has been exceptionally badly run since Khan took over.

Three consecutive lower league finishes in three years.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Chutney on July 25, 2016, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: Two Ton Ted on July 25, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
This club has been exceptionally badly run since Khan took over.

Three consecutive lower league finishes in three years.

On top of that they are secretive and constantly misleading the fans.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: CottagersOnTour on July 25, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.


This is correct, as long as footings as in place construction is deemed to have begun, therefore the planning permission does not lapse/need to be reapplied for in the future.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: westcliff white on July 25, 2016, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: CottagersOnTour on July 25, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on July 24, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
I may be wrong so please don't all shout at once. I am under the assumption that when you have planning permission, if you put down foundations of any description then you do not have to reapply for planning permission if you only do that, as work is deemed to have started.


This is correct, as long as footings as in place construction is deemed to have begun, therefore the planning permission does not lapse/need to be reapplied for in the future.
As far as I understand it doesn't even have to be anything as substantial as footings with some projects, it isn't overly straight forward.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 25, 2016, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
no mate, literally just asked about ross and riverside
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: davew on July 25, 2016, 09:41:47 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!
I agree, but then they wouldn't spend out all that money in the past on people who weren't good enough or didn't want to play for us, or would/did they?? Of course they did!!! Ross will be out of here pretty soon, hopefully at a fee which will allow us to buy 3 decent players, good business if it happens!
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2016, 06:24:59 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!

Here's a list of some other things that are stupid beyond stupid

Sacking your board without replacing them
Hiring an assistant manager to help your manager then sacking the manager two weeks later
Making the assistant manager your manager then sacking him two months later
Spending £11m on an injured player when you're in a relegation battle
Thinking a mad german and your youth team will get you promoted from the championship
Thinking a numpty with no managerial experience will get you promoted from the championship
Allowing the club to be managerless for two months whilst you replace the numpty
Spending several years designing a new stand then not building it
Not buying a new centre back when you conceded 79 goals last year


Hmmm exactly, and the prospect of commencing the new season without a new centre back appears at the very least negligent, and at the most suicidal.
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 26, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2016, 06:24:59 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!

Here's a list of some other things that are stupid beyond stupid

Sacking your board without replacing them
Hiring an assistant manager to help your manager then sacking the manager two weeks later
Making the assistant manager your manager then sacking him two months later
Spending £11m on an injured player when you're in a relegation battle
Thinking a mad german and your youth team will get you promoted from the championship
Thinking a numpty with no managerial experience will get you promoted from the championship
Allowing the club to be managerless for two months whilst you replace the numpty
Spending several years designing a new stand then not building it
Not buying a new centre back when you conceded 79 goals last year


Hmmm exactly, and the prospect of commencing the new season without a new centre back appears at the very least negligent, and at the most suicidal.
What are madl and kalas then? As I thought they were both center backs and both brought in, in this window
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: fulhamben on July 26, 2016, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2016, 08:25:49 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 26, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2016, 06:24:59 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!

Here's a list of some other things that are stupid beyond stupid

Sacking your board without replacing them
Hiring an assistant manager to help your manager then sacking the manager two weeks later
Making the assistant manager your manager then sacking him two months later
Spending £11m on an injured player when you're in a relegation battle
Thinking a mad german and your youth team will get you promoted from the championship
Thinking a numpty with no managerial experience will get you promoted from the championship
Allowing the club to be managerless for two months whilst you replace the numpty
Spending several years designing a new stand then not building it
Not buying a new centre back when you conceded 79 goals last year


Hmmm exactly, and the prospect of commencing the new season without a new centre back appears at the very least negligent, and at the most suicidal.
What are madl and kalas then? As I thought they were both center backs and both brought in, in this window

I was going to respond to this with an argument about whether someone who played for us half of last season can be called "new" and whether someone else who played most of last season at right back is really a centre back, but rather than arguing about technicalities it's probably simpler just to ask, do you honestly believe we're going to be much better defending set pieces if that's our CB pairing next year?
Can't be worse, but then do you honestly believe that we are actually even looking at, can afford and can attract better?
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on July 26, 2016, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 26, 2016, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 26, 2016, 08:25:49 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 26, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2016, 06:24:59 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!

Here's a list of some other things that are stupid beyond stupid

Sacking your board without replacing them
Hiring an assistant manager to help your manager then sacking the manager two weeks later
Making the assistant manager your manager then sacking him two months later
Spending £11m on an injured player when you're in a relegation battle
Thinking a mad german and your youth team will get you promoted from the championship
Thinking a numpty with no managerial experience will get you promoted from the championship
Allowing the club to be managerless for two months whilst you replace the numpty
Spending several years designing a new stand then not building it
Not buying a new centre back when you conceded 79 goals last year


Hmmm exactly, and the prospect of commencing the new season without a new centre back appears at the very least negligent, and at the most suicidal.
What are madl and kalas then? As I thought they were both center backs and both brought in, in this window

I was going to respond to this with an argument about whether someone who played for us half of last season can be called "new" and whether someone else who played most of last season at right back is really a centre back, but rather than arguing about technicalities it's probably simpler just to ask, do you honestly believe we're going to be much better defending set pieces if that's our CB pairing next year?
Can't be worse, but then do you honestly believe that we are actually even looking at, can afford and can attract better?

Looking at, I bloody well hope so !
Afford and attract,  A big fat YES !
Will we ?  I have no idea !
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: Mince n Tatties on July 26, 2016, 09:13:59 AM
Still awaiting the major signing. :023:  079.gif
Title: Re: Not good
Post by: win-dup on July 26, 2016, 10:09:23 AM
Quote from: Statto on July 25, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on July 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: brixology on July 25, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
Any word on who might be coming in?  Or just an indication that the Ross dollars will be spent on players over the next week?
There's no Ross dollars to be spent!
I do not believe the club would sell the best player we have unless they have an excellent replacement, who is guaranteed!
Even then I personally will not be happy to sell to a rival club - it's stupid beyond stupid!

I refuse to believe this rumour!

Here's a list of some other things that are stupid beyond stupid

Sacking your board without replacing them
Hiring an assistant manager to help your manager then sacking the manager two weeks later
Making the assistant manager your manager then sacking him two months later
Spending £11m on an injured player when you're in a relegation battle
Thinking a mad german and your youth team will get you promoted from the championship
Thinking a numpty with no managerial experience will get you promoted from the championship
Allowing the club to be managerless for two months whilst you replace the numpty
Spending several years designing a new stand then not building it
Not buying a new centre back when you conceded 79 goals last year


Being a Pakistani/American with no knowledge of football and buying a football club surely outranks all of the above in the stupidity stakes? Unless of course, he has (God/Allah forbid), an ulterior motive in buying probably the most valuable piece of real estate in the borough?