Just been told by one of my FST committee colleagues the following
Fulham received Certificate of Lawfulness of Proposed Use for Riverside Stand development last week. Planning permission now can't expire.
Which means nothing if he has no intention to build it
But surely it's nice to be kept up to speed with developments at the club?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
Which means nothing if he has no intention to build it
Maybe or maybe not, but keeps options open.
Good news that. Thanks for the update.
Thanks, but surely its the clubs job to inform not yours or the FST ?
Why wouldn't the club put that out on their website ?
Thanks for the update Mike. I'm guessing this means that some sort of work has taken place so as to gain the certificate?
Did you all miss the Ceremonial Lobbing of a brick into the Thames to start the foundations of the new stand ?
Quote from: AnEssexFan on August 30, 2016, 04:18:02 PM
Thanks for the update Mike. I'm guessing this means that some sort of work has taken place so as to gain the certificate?
That or some brown envelopes :-)
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
Which means nothing if he has no intention to build it
I understand what you are saying here FB, but why bother going through all this stuff if there is no intention of building, just seems pointless
Never been to impressed with Mr 051 as owner of FFC, I watched again last night the programme called million £ yachts which featured our beloved Custodian's super yacht.
That boat is bloody impressive but also very over the top with a lot of its internal features, it struck me that Mr 051 knows what he wants and is happy to pay for it.
So I'm hoping and giving him the benefit of doubt that he does have some master plan for the redevelopment of the Riverside and that it will indeed be something we will all be proud of.
But as many have said before a bit more information on this from the club would be nice, come on Fulham don't keep us in the dark. 049:gif
Don't fret, compared with real superyachts (and I used to work for a company that project-managed the design and build) it's relatively basic.
Quote from: Statto on August 30, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
Quote from: alfie on August 30, 2016, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
Which means nothing if he has no intention to build it
I understand what you are saying here FB, but why bother going through all this stuff if there is no intention of building, just seems pointless
2 possible answers IMO
1. he's mildly interested in the project but not enough to commit (maybe waiting to see if we get promoted) so this keeps his options open
2. merely having planning permission adds some value to his asset, the club
Really? Maybe if it was for housing but honestly how much do you think it is worth to replace an existing stand in a second tier football club?
Quote from: Statto on August 30, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
Quote from: alfie on August 30, 2016, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
Which means nothing if he has no intention to build it
I understand what you are saying here FB, but why bother going through all this stuff if there is no intention of building, just seems pointless
2 possible answers IMO
1. he's mildly interested in the project but not enough to commit (maybe waiting to see if we get promoted) so this keeps his options open
2. merely having planning permission adds some value to his asset, the club
May well be.
But there is surely a...
3. he is totally committed and now has plenty of time to sort out the design he wants.
Quote from: cmg on August 30, 2016, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 30, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
Quote from: alfie on August 30, 2016, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 30, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
Which means nothing if he has no intention to build it
I understand what you are saying here FB, but why bother going through all this stuff if there is no intention of building, just seems pointless
2 possible answers IMO
1. he's mildly interested in the project but not enough to commit (maybe waiting to see if we get promoted) so this keeps his options open
2. merely having planning permission adds some value to his asset, the club
May well be.
But there is surely a...
3. he is totally committed and now has plenty of time to sort out the design he wants.
was the previous 3 years not enough time then? and lets not forget, he made several design changes already, to the original project. just cant believe he woke up one day and decided that all of a sudden, he didnt like it, or his own changes to it
Quote from: Holders on August 30, 2016, 05:47:38 PM
Don't fret, compared with real superyachts (and I used to work for a company that project-managed the design and build) it's relatively basic.
No fretting here just an observation, if he is willing to spend $200 million on a toy then hopefully he will open the cheque book when he gets the design that he wants for one of his buissness's.
Surely it only makes sense to build a new stand if we return to the Premier League, the attendances in the Championship do not warrant the capital outlay.
There would be untold gnashing of teeth if the club didn't pursue planning permission.
Now they have it......"well he won't use it" is the refrain.
Give it a rest for god's sake!
Quote from: gang on August 30, 2016, 06:18:46 PM
Surely it only makes sense to build a new stand if we return to the Premier League, the attendances in the Championship do not warrant the capital outlay.
Stop posting sensible comments
Quote from: gang on August 30, 2016, 06:18:46 PM
Surely it only makes sense to build a new stand if we return to the Premier League, the attendances in the Championship do not warrant the capital outlay.
Mr Khant has said the redevelopment will not just be for football - but for hospitality, functions and weddings....so, it probably does make sense to build it before/if we get into the Prem....also the build cost (around £20/24m) is peanuts to him
Quote from: gang on August 30, 2016, 06:18:46 PM
Surely it only makes sense to build a new stand if we return to the Premier League, the attendances in the Championship do not warrant the capital outlay.
But when we get there (yeah that`s right, I said when. Unbeaten `n` that) we have no guarantee of how long we`ll stay up. If we wait until we`re there we could quite easily find ourselves playing in The Championship again by the time its finished. So why not do it now and have the infrastructure in place ready for when we need it?
Quote from: Statto on August 30, 2016, 06:34:43 PM
Quote from: snarks on August 30, 2016, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: gang on August 30, 2016, 06:18:46 PM
Surely it only makes sense to build a new stand if we return to the Premier League, the attendances in the Championship do not warrant the capital outlay.
Stop posting sensible comments
That would be a sensible comment if the development could be completed in a few weeks rather than a few years. In fact were we to wait until we're back in the premiership before we start building, there's a good chance we'll be relegated again and back in the championship before it's finished.
In any case Ali Mackintosh explicitly said last year we were going ahead with the project irrespective of the division we're in.
Yeah what Statto said!
Maybe we need to take the initiative, and start the build ourselves.....I've got a hard hat, high viz, can make tea and when needed I can look busy....that's a start
Thanks for the update Mike. This, at least, means the project has not actually been killed off yet.
As for timings, I don't believe construction projects of this nature are switched on & off dependant on prevailing circumstances. The new stand is part of a long-term vision for the club and once commenced will have to be carried through, regardless of our immediate successes or otherwise on the pitch.
What is critical, however, is the decision to actually put the first spade in the ground in earnest and it would appear that they took the decision to delay until a more optimum moment i.e. When the premier league is a feasible prospect, with the attendant crowd numbers and myriad revenue enhancement opportunities.
As a fan, I wish they had just pressed ahead regardless but I have to admit that it was good business sense to put on hold until the future prospects became a little clearer. Hopefully, early next year we will be in a much stronger position and Mr.Khan will press the button so they the ground is ready for the boom years ahead!
Quote from: MJG on August 30, 2016, 03:37:30 PM
Just been told by one of my FST committee colleagues the following
Fulham received Certificate of Lawfulness of Proposed Use for Riverside Stand development last week. Planning permission now can't expire.
If we didn't get this permission until last week - it was never going to be possible to start the river works this summer
As I understood it the enabling work had to be done during the closed season - which presumably means starting in May - that being the case there is plenty of time to consult Heatherwick and if any changes they recommend do not need a new planning permission, get approval before next May.
I live in hope
