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Title: PIazon
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on September 01, 2016, 01:14:51 AM
Quote from Wikipedia:

Piazon commented on his playing style: "I'd say my playing style is different from typical Brazilian forwards. When you think about these, you think about dribbles and flashy moves. My football is simpler and more direct. It's more like a midfielder playing up front. I like to pass quickly. I don't hog the ball and I don't tend to run with it.".
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: TWFL on September 01, 2016, 01:24:44 AM
It'll be interesting to see where he plays. We've already got quite a busy CAM position with Cairney, Jozabed and arguably even Aluko being able to play there, maybe LP can play out wide?

Anyway, time will tell. Nice to have the strength in depth though.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: bmasar on September 01, 2016, 02:52:18 AM
It'll be interesting to see where he plays. We've already got quite a busy CAM position with Cairney, Jozabed and arguably even Aluko being able to play there, maybe LP can play out wide?

Anyway, time will tell. Nice to have the strength in depth though.
I believe he is predominantly a RW.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: J on September 01, 2016, 04:40:23 AM
It'll be interesting to see where he plays. We've already got quite a busy CAM position with Cairney, Jozabed and arguably even Aluko being able to play there, maybe LP can play out wide?

Anyway, time will tell. Nice to have the strength in depth though.
I believe he is predominantly a RW.

Left wing actually (though right footed) according to the internet

http://www.transfermarkt.com/lucas-piazon/profil/spieler/176485 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/lucas-piazon/profil/spieler/176485)
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: bencher on September 01, 2016, 06:58:55 AM
From a quick look at the Reading messageboards, Piazon was played on the wing (when used), and wasn't too highly regarded by their fans - considered too lightweight. He seems to be something of a poor man's Oscar. I can't seem him being a regular starter; I'd expect him to be backup for the spots currently occupied by Kebano/Ayite, Cairney and Aluko - not quite in direct competition with Jozabed, who is more of a central player.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: Chutney on September 01, 2016, 07:46:38 AM
Piazon will be used sparingly at best and I imagine was brought in as a squad player.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: General on September 01, 2016, 07:50:46 AM
Yeah strikes me as a last minute panic buy. He was at cobham welcoming david luiz yesterday afternoon and was welcoming his brother back.. don't think that was a post expectant of going anywhere himself. Chelsea is just close enough to get a last minute deal done.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: WokinghamWhite on September 01, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
When the missus goes for her regular Saturday visit to the mother-in-law in Reading I will nip down to the Madejski if they're at home. Saw about half a dozen matches there last season. Apparently Piazon played 23 times for Reading last season but if he played in the matches I saw then he made no impression on me at all. Maybe he just needs the right team/manager.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: filham on September 01, 2016, 08:08:17 AM
If he is not a striker/target man not sure that we really needed him.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: H4usuallysitting on September 01, 2016, 09:06:23 AM
I know nothing about him, but if he's a poacher he'll do brilliantly for us....we currently make plenty of chances
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: toshes mate on September 01, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
SJ's teams look like they will develop into quick passing units, especially in midfield and up front with plenty of movement and possession.  It remains to be seen how Piazon will figure in the squad, but obviously something about him has pleased the stats guy.....
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: H4usuallysitting on September 01, 2016, 10:19:17 AM
SJ's teams look like they will develop into quick passing units, especially in midfield and up front with plenty of movement and possession.  It remains to be seen how Piazon will figure in the squad, but obviously something about him has pleased the stats guy.....

Maybe he's cheap
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: hopper on September 01, 2016, 10:49:21 AM
Does this suggest to anyone that Ayite's injury may be bad? The silence on that is killing me!
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: @jolslover on September 02, 2016, 11:08:30 AM
I have watched a lot of Piazon as I live right next to Reading so get down often. When Reading signed him he had a big reputation so many fans expected him to walk the league

He is a very good technical player, his touch and passing skills are very good for this level. But his strength lets him down. He often gets caught on the ball and isnt the hardest worker.

I am still a big fan but thats just how i am aligned, I prefer technical ability over work-rate any day, but some people are different

He can play anywhere in the '3' in a 4231 so is great cover, I think he is a good player to have around and from his latest tweets looks like hes enjoying being here!
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on September 02, 2016, 12:07:30 PM
Thought he was loaned not bought?
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: cmg on September 02, 2016, 12:27:29 PM
We've all got to do our best to help out our neighbours.
Chelsea have no fewer than 38 players out on loan.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/01/chelsea-38-players-loan-who-where (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/01/chelsea-38-players-loan-who-where)

If they all turned up at Cobham there'd be nowhere for the first teamers to park their Bentleys.

An example of  the insanity of modern football.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: MikeCdawg on September 02, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
Did he not score a free-kick against us last season?

I think he is half decent from what i've seen. Good squad player to have but I expect nothing more, unless injuries/suspenisons or even the African Nations cup may force Joka's hand.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: Asotosyios on September 02, 2016, 08:34:40 PM
Did he not score a free-kick against us last season?

I think he is half decent from what i've seen. Good squad player to have but I expect nothing more, unless injuries/suspenisons or even the African Nations cup may force Joka's hand.

Not a free kick, but he did score against us at Craven Cottage last year. His loan is until January 15th, so he may not be with us during the African Nations Cup.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: @jolslover on September 05, 2016, 11:21:28 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3775029/What-life-REALLY-like-Chelsea-loan-starlet-Lucas-Piazon-reveals-all.html#ixzz4JQ84Lo7s (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3775029/What-life-REALLY-like-Chelsea-loan-starlet-Lucas-Piazon-reveals-all.html#ixzz4JQ84Lo7s)
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: dhowells21 on September 06, 2016, 08:12:47 AM
Interesting article that (suprising for the DM).

Doesn't seem to be a huge fan of the Chelsea youth policy
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: Carborundum on September 06, 2016, 08:19:53 AM
Interesting article that (suprising for the DM).

Doesn't seem to be a huge fan of the Chelsea youth policy
Or indeed the defensive responsibilities that are necessary for games to be won.  Seems  he would rather have free and open games where he can buff up his goals / assists stats and highlights video.  I think we have suffered quite enough of that mindset in recent seasons.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: filham on September 06, 2016, 09:03:58 AM
So many summer window signings that it is difficult to make judgements on individual players and where they fit into the grand scheme of things. Lets just hope Jocanovic can quickly produce a settled team playing winning football with the best eleven each having a good understudy ready to step in in the event of injury.

I don't want to see player and system changes every week but I suppose that may be considered an old fashioned view.
Title: Re: PIazon
Post by: Bronaldinho on September 06, 2016, 09:25:05 AM
Discussed Piazon briefly in my latest blog post on 'The Craven Corner'.

You can read it here:

thecravencorner.wordpress.com (http://thecravencorner.wordpress.com)

I have a feeling he'll do quite well for us really. His style of play, should help him sit into Joka's style with some ease and the fact he can play anywhere behind the forward is bonus too!