the old/new (depending on your view on the newly formed club) firm derby. is anyone actually going to bother to watch it.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 05, 2016, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 05, 2016, 02:47:22 PM
the old/new (depending on your view on the newly formed club) firm derby. is anyone actually going to bother to watch it.
Not in this lifetime.
so you are saying that you are going to die and be reincarnated into something, lets say a slug. all before the game kicks off at the weekend? have you told the wife that you are not long for this world? :005:
I am from Glasgow and the last time I went to a match was when Kenny Dalglish was playing for Celtic. I have no allegiance to either and frankly was appalled at the hatred which existed between supporters.Never been again since although the opportunity has not been there. If I was in UK, I would take a look at it on tv with low expectations about the standard.
Quote from: jarv on September 05, 2016, 03:46:26 PM
I am from Glasgow and the last time I went to a match was when Kenny Dalglish was playing for Celtic. I have no allegiance to either and frankly was appalled at the hatred which existed between supporters.Never been again since although the opportunity has not been there. If I was in UK, I would take a look at it on tv with low expectations about the standard.
just seen that barton plays for rangers, im predicting 2 red cards and the usual 3 fans stabbed
Quote from: jarv on September 05, 2016, 03:46:26 PM
I am from Glasgow and the last time I went to a match was when Kenny Dalglish was playing for Celtic. I have no allegiance to either and frankly was appalled at the hatred which existed between supporters.Never been again since although the opportunity has not been there. If I was in UK, I would take a look at it on tv with low expectations about the standard.
whats your fulham connection jarv?
I'm a former season ticket holder at Ibrox. This city is an embarrassment at the best of times bit even more so at Old(new) firm time.
I enjoy football and support Rangers but i have no interest in the absolute pettyminded drivval that comes from both sets of fans.
Shame that sky have put two games on I fancy watching though.
I thought he was talking about Man City/ Utd - with City being the new club in the derby?... obviously the confusion is because of lack of clarity around the old firm derby being celtic and rangers.
Quote from: GordonMac on September 05, 2016, 03:54:26 PM
I'm a former season ticket holder at Ibrox. This city is an embarrassment at the best of times bit even more so at Old(new) firm time.
I enjoy football and support Rangers but i have no interest in the absolute pettyminded drivval that comes from both sets of fans.
Shame that sky have put two games on I fancy watching though.
lol, just seen its at the same time as the manchester derby. so i doubt anyone will watch it barring rangers and celtic fans.
Quote from: General on September 05, 2016, 03:56:28 PM
I thought he was talking about Man City/ Utd - with City being the new club in the derby?... obviously the confusion is because of lack of clarity around the old firm derby being celtic and rangers.
surely everyone knows what the old firm derby is?
Ha!
My mistake, I thought he was referencing our overhyped poo fest up north.
As for the Manchester Derby, I will watch it but only for Zlatan.
Quote from: GordonMac on September 05, 2016, 04:00:35 PM
Ha!
My mistake, I thought he was referencing our overhyped poo fest up north.
As for the Manchester Derby, I will watch it but only for Zlatan.
i am, there is only one old firm derby. and i didnt realise that the games clashed till you mentioned it.
I have a ticket to the game this weekend. A friend from work is a Celtic season ticket holder, and insisted I go up for the game.
If I were forced to choose between the two I would have choosen Rangers. Obviously I will have to keep that quiet this weekend.
Hopefully theres no trouble, just a well supported, hard fought game. We will see though.
Yeah it's really odd from a marketing and money grabbing stand point for Sky. I'd have thought putting one of these games on the Super Sunday would've made mote fiscal sense, it's perhaps the authorites that have declined the move.
That being said, have the Old(new) Firm game on at lunchtime on a Saturday is asking for trouble, more so than usual.
I'll be staying in and away from the city centre Saturday night anyway.
I hate the Rangers or whatever ever they are called now (Sevco)
It was I think, as they are in Cahoots with the Scum down
Fulham Broadway.
Quote from: GordonMac on September 05, 2016, 04:13:02 PM
Yeah it's really odd from a marketing and money grabbing stand point for Sky. I'd have thought putting one of these games on the Super Sunday would've made mote fiscal sense, it's perhaps the authorites that have declined the move.
That being said, have the Old(new) Firm game on at lunchtime on a Saturday is asking for trouble, more so than usual.
I'll be staying in and away from the city centre Saturday night anyway.
really, why do you think that. I would have thought the 12pm ko off time was ideal to limit the trouble. In before pubs open and all that
I misread the OP......And looked online to see who Derby were playing.....I got more confused when I found out theyre playing Newcastle......please, don't get old
Ben, my connection to Fulham is easy. Age 12, moved to Southfields, went to watch Fulham and instantly becamse a Johnny Haynes fan. I returned just to watch him a few times and Fulham stuck. Don't regret one minute of supporting Fulham.
I do admit to going to Stamford Bridge 2 or 3 times but the thugs on the terraces were just as bad as in Glasgow. Greaves was with Chelsea then but apart from him, the rest were cr@p.
Quote from: jarv on September 05, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
Ben, my connection to Fulham is easy. Age 12, moved to Southfields, went to watch Fulham and instantly becamse a Johnny Haynes fan. I returned just to watch him a few times and Fulham stuck. Don't regret one minute of supporting Fulham.
I do admit to going to Stamford Bridge 2 or 3 times but the thugs on the terraces were just as bad as in Glasgow. Greaves was with Chelsea then but apart from him, the rest were cr@p.
good stuff. alright for some, you remember haynes as a boy and i remember protests on the pitch. im calling you silver spoon from now on :005:
Quote from: fulhamben on September 05, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: GordonMac on September 05, 2016, 04:13:02 PM
Yeah it's really odd from a marketing and money grabbing stand point for Sky. I'd have thought putting one of these games on the Super Sunday would've made mote fiscal sense, it's perhaps the authorites that have declined the move.
That being said, have the Old(new) Firm game on at lunchtime on a Saturday is asking for trouble, more so than usual.
I'll be staying in and away from the city centre Saturday night anyway.
really, why do you think that. I would have thought the 12pm ko off time was ideal to limit the trouble. In before pubs open and all that
Pubs are opening at 11, some at 10 if you know the right spots. A 12 oclock kick then a full Saturday afternoon to fill up on the goof juice then head into town... Glasgow city centre will be a pit regardless of the result. Ive been on a few nights out on old firm days and its just a horrible atmosphere in town.
Quote from: fulhamben on September 05, 2016, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: General on September 05, 2016, 03:56:28 PM
I thought he was talking about Man City/ Utd - with City being the new club in the derby?... obviously the confusion is because of lack of clarity around the old firm derby being celtic and rangers.
surely everyone knows what the old firm derby is?
is it some type of horse race?
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I prefer the old FARM derby...norwich v ipswich. :005:
Quote from: jarv on September 05, 2016, 03:46:26 PM
I have no allegiance to either and frankly was appalled at the hatred which existed between supporters.
How bitter is the rivalry between the two sets of fans? I always presumed that the whole thing was overhyped by the media.
Quote from: fulhamben on September 05, 2016, 02:47:22 PM
the old/new (depending on your view on the newly formed club) firm derby. is anyone actually going to bother to watch it.
Why WOULDNT Sky try to hype this up? They're showing it and want to maximise it so they'll sell it to the masses in whatever way possible.
Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade but look at the amount of people who follow both teams? Their following is huge, most of Scotland and Ireland both north and south will be watching it, for various reasons. Some people grow up following one or the other team like die hards. Because of their different backgrounds and close proximity , of course they will clash, usually overdoing it.
No one is asking you to bother watching it but both teams have a massive following and a lot of people WILL watch it
People all over the world will want to watch it, and support one team or the other for historical reasons that have nothing to do with football.
The North Belfast derby is worse between Linfield and
Cliftonville, just normally a few disappearances, stabbings
and Arson attacks, but its kept quiet by the Media in case
It stirs up trouble..Bleedin Bonkers.
Quote from: GordonMac on September 05, 2016, 03:54:26 PM
I'm a former season ticket holder at Ibrox. This city is an embarrassment at the best of times bit even more so at Old(new) firm time.
I enjoy football and support Rangers but i have no interest in the absolute pettyminded drivval that comes from both sets of fans.
Shame that sky have put two games on I fancy watching though.
My wife and I were on holiday on the West Coast of Scotland
A couple of years ago, and stayed a couple of days in Glasgow.
The city centre is far from the Pits as you call it, magnificent buildings
Galleries and attractions, and everyone one we talked to was helpful
and polite.
A couple of girls who served us afternoon tea in a Lyons type
Cafe couldn't have been more helpful and charming.Weve never had service
Like that where we live in Suffolk.
I always judge a place and people as I find them, and Glasgow was
Far from being the Pits....Just my opinion though.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 07:06:12 AM
Quote from: GordonMac on September 05, 2016, 03:54:26 PM
I'm a former season ticket holder at Ibrox. This city is an embarrassment at the best of times bit even more so at Old(new) firm time.
I enjoy football and support Rangers but i have no interest in the absolute pettyminded drivval that comes from both sets of fans.
Shame that sky have put two games on I fancy watching though.
My wife and I were on holiday on the West Coast of Scotland
A couple of years ago, and stayed a couple of days in Glasgow.
The city centre is far from the Pits as you call it, magnificent buildings
Galleries and attractions, and everyone one we talked to was helpful
and polite.
A couple of girls who served us afternoon tea in a Lyons type
Cafe couldn't have been more helpful and charming.Weve never had service
Like that where we live in Suffolk.
I always judge a place and people as I find them, and Glasgow was
Far from being the Pits....Just my opinion though.
Certainly you're entitled to your opinion, I've visits cities myself and have a different opinion from those who live there, best example I have is staying for a month in Queens, New York and finding it a magnificent community.
I'm just sharing my view from living in Glasgow all my 34 years, the town centre and many areas along with it for that matter change completely on old firm day, it does indeed turn the city vile and makes the whole "friendly Glasgow" disappear for many hours.
Of course Sky isn't gonna build a program around those facts, it's not a nice place to be during or after this game.
Glad you liked Glasgow, I'm just back from a weekend in London with the wife and we loved it also. Think it's maybe due to it being a new experience that we become blinded by the asthetic beauty and not the underbelly of grime ha..
Why are people calling the old firm derby the /new firm derby... the club have been going non stop since rangers got relegated and they've still played each other.
Quote from: General on September 06, 2016, 08:37:30 AM
Why are people calling the old firm derby the /new firm derby... the club have been going non stop since rangers got relegated and they've still played each other.
Because the fact of the matter is, that the original rangers were liquidated. If it were any other company they would have to trade under a different name. They made an exception in this case to allow the team to restart up and use the old name.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 06:54:30 AM
The North Belfast derby is worse between Linfield and
Cliftonville, just normally a few disappearances, stabbings
and Arson attacks, but its kept quiet by the Media in case
It stirs up trouble..Bleedin Bonkers.
Peace and love compared to when Belfast Celtic were in existence. The poisonous enmity between them (a green and white mirror-image of their Glasgow namesakes) and Linfield (still a blue and white Rangers clone) culminated in a riot at the end of the Boxing Day match, 1948. Several players were injured and Belfast Celtic decided to disband.
One of the injured Celtic players was Robin Lawler who subsequently had a decent career at Fulham
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: General on September 06, 2016, 08:37:30 AM
Why are people calling the old firm derby the /new firm derby... the club have been going non stop since rangers got relegated and they've still played each other.
Because the fact of the matter is, that the original rangers were liquidated. If it were any other company they would have to trade under a different name. They made an exception in this case to allow the team to restart up and use the old name.
A pal of mine an Airdrieonians fan says they all call Rangers
The Sevco Boys...lol
Quote from: cmg on September 06, 2016, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 06:54:30 AM
The North Belfast derby is worse between Linfield and
Cliftonville, just normally a few disappearances, stabbings
and Arson attacks, but its kept quiet by the Media in case
It stirs up trouble..Bleedin Bonkers.
Peace and love compared to when Belfast Celtic were in existence. The poisonous enmity between them (a green and white mirror-image of their Glasgow namesakes) and Linfield (still a blue and white Rangers clone) culminated in a riot at the end of the Boxing Day match, 1948. Several players were injured and Belfast Celtic decided to disband.
One of the injured Celtic players was Robin Lawler who subsequently had a decent career at Fulham
Just looked it up and read about it.Your right bloody
Insane the lot of them..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: General on September 06, 2016, 08:37:30 AM
Why are people calling the old firm derby the /new firm derby... the club have been going non stop since rangers got relegated and they've still played each other.
Because the fact of the matter is, that the original rangers were liquidated. If it were any other company they would have to trade under a different name. They made an exception in this case to allow the team to restart up and use the old name.
A pal of mine an Airdrieonians fan says they all call Rangers
The Sevco Boys...lol
Yes, I've heard them called that many a time.must admit, I haven't a clue what sevco means
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: General on September 06, 2016, 08:37:30 AM
Why are people calling the old firm derby the /new firm derby... the club have been going non stop since rangers got relegated and they've still played each other.
Because the fact of the matter is, that the original rangers were liquidated. If it were any other company they would have to trade under a different name. They made an exception in this case to allow the team to restart up and use the old name.
A pal of mine an Airdrieonians fan says they all call Rangers
The Sevco Boys...lol
Yes, I've heard them called that many a time.must admit, I haven't a clue what sevco means
Isn't it the company that bought them?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 06, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: General on September 06, 2016, 08:37:30 AM
Why are people calling the old firm derby the /new firm derby... the club have been going non stop since rangers got relegated and they've still played each other.
Because the fact of the matter is, that the original rangers were liquidated. If it were any other company they would have to trade under a different name. They made an exception in this case to allow the team to restart up and use the old name.
A pal of mine an Airdrieonians fan says they all call Rangers
The Sevco Boys...lol
Yes, I've heard them called that many a time.must admit, I haven't a clue what sevco means
Isn't it the company that bought them?
Yes just checked it out. Wouldn't say bought them. Sevco Scotland limited basically formed in 2012 and bought all the assets off of us for a ridiculously low price and later changed their name to rangers football club limited. As a Football fan I'm happy that the new club was formed, but as a tax payer one has to question how the hmrc allowed it's assets to be sold off really cheaply. Especially as I heard that some relestate company offered a lot more.
When in Glasgow, go to the transport museum. It is amazing, free (you can donate on the way out if you want). The walk along the river to get to it rivals the Thames, great job done cleaning up and rebuilding.
Quote from: jarv on September 06, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
When in Glasgow, go to the transport museum. It is amazing, free (you can donate on the way out if you want). The walk along the river to get to it rivals the Thames, great job done cleaning up and rebuilding.
spend alot of time in Paisley due to work. Now that's a place that could do with a little regeneration or free stab vests for outsiders
Of course the bad events still happen all over the world. Just been reading about violence in football in Cyprus where referees are targets of bomb attacks, and we all know about South American soccer. It seems passions can run high when you throw your heart and soul into something or have it drummed into you as a kid. In so far as the dealings of Rangers FC I would say they served the minimum time they could and are now back in the saddle although it'll be a year or so before they are really challenging Celtic's current superiority.
Back when we used to play both clubs at home pre-season, my memory is of Celtic fans wanting to sing & wave their flags while the Rangers fans wanted to fight anybody or everybody, including L.Boa Morte.
Quote from: SP on September 06, 2016, 05:42:30 PM
Back when we used to play both clubs at home pre-season, my memory is of Celtic fans wanting to sing & wave their flags while the Rangers fans wanted to fight anybody or everybody, including L.Boa Morte.
I can remember the Ira songs, don't recall any fights with rangers
Quote from: fulhamben on September 06, 2016, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: SP on September 06, 2016, 05:42:30 PM
Back when we used to play both clubs at home pre-season, my memory is of Celtic fans wanting to sing & wave their flags while the Rangers fans wanted to fight anybody or everybody, including L.Boa Morte.
I can remember the Ira songs, don't recall any fights with rangers
No fights, just simmering aggression.
wooly is keeping this one going....14th century 064.gif
Ben was on about Paisley, apparently about 5 thousand or over
Travel through to support Celtic.
Imagine if they were to stay at home and support St Mirren
how much would it help that club.
