Big next game at Cottage on Tuesday night, personally would go for this sticking with a similar team:
Button, Odoi, Madl, Sigurdson, Malone, Parker (if fit), Johansen, Cairney, Piazon, Aluko and Martin
How long is kalas out for?
Quote from: fulhamben on October 15, 2016, 09:00:08 PM
How long is kalas out for?
Slav said 7-10 days for him and Ayite to be back. http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/october/13/team-news (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/october/13/team-news)
Agree I would keep the same team with maybe Madl in for Ream
Quote from: Alukoslover on October 15, 2016, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 15, 2016, 09:00:08 PM
How long is kalas out for?
Slav said 7-10 days for him and Ayite to be back. http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/october/13/team-news (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/october/13/team-news)
cheers, a double brucey bonus then in a fortnight
I'm thinking the Cottage will be 85% full, and we'll win 3-1
Same team but Mcdonald for Johansen.
Quote from: NJFulham on October 16, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
Same team but Mcdonald for Johansen.
Johansen played well did he not? And Mcdonald has been far from convincing in his last few outings. Plus playing with Parker and Mcdonald will just invite them on to us. And we all know what happens when we do that. Need either Johansen or Tunni next to Parker imo
Drop Button! he is a clown bring back Marcus!
Tunny in for Johansen & Madl in for Ream from me.
Deffo not Parker AND MacD again pls. One or the other.
Also keep Cairney central.
COYW!
Quote from: Skatzoffc on October 16, 2016, 04:11:53 PM
Tunny in for Johansen & Madl in for Ream from me.
Deffo not Parker AND MacD again pls. One or the other.
Also keep Cairney central.
COYW!
Completely agree with this. Mac is a good replacement for Parker, but the two together are far too similar. I think Johansson is industrious and very skillful, he or Tunnicliff in the side along side Parker. Madl for Ream every day.
I'll just settle for a winning team
Just watched the full game (looks like I'll have to start saving for the three quid for next month's installment.)
Malone was immense, ran them ragged down the left flank well before any red card was produced.
Aluko was also terrific. Never stopped running, showed speed and skill, he is only fractions away from being an absolute star. I suppose it is those fractions that meant we could get him for nothing.
When we have a full squad the manager will have some difficult decisions. Excellent.
Madl, and then Kalas when fit, should surely get the nod over Ream. Sigurdsson is there to stay.
Odoi or Fredericks? Tricky.
Johansen or Tunni? Even trickier. Johansen was impressive yesterday, more skillful than Tunni but less good defensively.
Don't see MacDonald getting in unless Parker wants a rest, which doesn't look likely anytime this decade. I agree we don't want both at the same time.
Piazon and Aiyite are not really like for like but there aren't really any other vacancies.
Will Jozabed, highly rated abroad, and LVC ever get a look in?
These are the right sort of problems to have.
Just exchange Madl for Ream and leave the rest alone, they have earned it. I personally marginally prefer Betts but now is not the right time for that change. Johansson is good going forward and we need to break down defences at home so for me he stays.
Agree we should keep Cairney central.
This should not even be an issue, it was clear from last season that he does not excellent when wide.
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Unlike Cardiff, Burton, Birmingham, Bristol City and QPR the expectation and desire to win is with Norwich. They won't be sitting deep hoping to nick a point. In fact I reckon we will be like the away team like we were vs Newcastle.
On paper it will be a tough game but this is Norwich and we all know what normally happens, I reckon we could nick it if the players turn up.
Keep the same team unless Kalas or Ayite are fit. And possibly Fredericks for Odoi who isn't that great and Madl for Ream
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on October 15, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
I'm thinking the Cottage will be 85% full, and we'll win 3-1
I am thinking whatever you are drinking it must be clouding your judgement!! (lol)
I hope you are right, I hope we do win and then I will certainly change my opinion on what we might achieve this season, long way to go and if we can turn the Cottage into a fortress then we are candidates for a play off place!
Finally getting to a game this season with work, domestic stuff etc preventing me so far. Looking forward to it
It was brilliant being right behind the goal when Aluko scored.
He is some player, and just needs composure in front of goal, which he certainly showed on Saturday, gliding past defenders and keeper with the ball at his feet, as to the manner born.
Our attacking formation with Martin leading the line really worked. When Martin rose to meet that cross and steer it firmly into the net, it was with all the confidence and conviction that he's been lacking recently.
Will not be surprised if we lose. Norwich will be the toughest team to beat. Won't give much away, and have a very good attacking line up.
We all seem to agree on Madl in for Ream. Ream just isn't good enough. At fault for their first goal Saturday.
I dont get the knocking of Button, last season we had 4 clean sheets in the league (just league games) so far htis season we have 3.
While Betts is good he doesnt command the area or space around him like Button does, his distribution is no better than Buttons neither is his shot stopping. SO overall button edges it due to his presence in the box for me, but then that can come with experience and obviously Betts is a little younger, so hopefully he learns that part.
Barring injuries I would probably start the same side, Madl for Ream the only consideration to make.
If Parker isnt fit then either Tunni or Macdonald back in to partner with Johansen
Surely no sensible manager would tinker with a team that has just won 4-2 away from home against a team above them in the table.
Of course Parker had a very tough game and may need until Saturday to recover so Tunni replacing Parker would be understandable.
Quote from: fulhamben on October 16, 2016, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: NJFulham on October 16, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
Same team but Mcdonald for Johansen.
Johansen played well did he not? And Mcdonald has been far from convincing in his last few outings. Plus playing with Parker and Mcdonald will just invite them on to us. And we all know what happens when we do that. Need either Johansen or Tunni next to Parker imo
im saying what slav is going to do.
I would start with the same team, but I think Jokaonvic will bring in either McDonald or Tunnicliffe in place of Johansen to add a bit of more of a defensive shield given the way Norwich play.
I think it would be a mistake to play McDonald and Parker but would sort of understand the Tunnicliffe inclusion.
Agree, Slavisa might want to make us more solid defensively in midfield, but I don't think he will make many changes, if any.
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 17, 2016, 11:05:30 AM
Will not be surprised if we lose. Norwich will be the toughest team to beat. Won't give much away, and have a very good attacking line up.
Will not be surprised if we win. Fulham can be a tough team to beat. Shouldn't give much away and our attacking line up is improving.
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
Number of goals conceded by a team does not equate to that GK being better or worse than another. Its not that simple as you know.
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
We didn't buy Lonergan he was out of Contract.
Apparently we paid 2 Million for Button,so he wasn't going to come to be no 2 to Betts is he?
And from what I've seen of Betts last season and Button this,Button is easily the better keeper.
But a goalie(and I used to be one) makes one mistake
and all of a sudden your no good.
I agree with dannyboi, Norwich won't come looking for a point or scabby goal. They're one of the best teams in this division and they'll want to win this.
This is the perfect game for a KMac and Parker midfield. We'all need to protect the ball when we have it, get numbers behind the ball and break quickly when we get a chance to counter attack.
Quote from: EastEndWhite on October 18, 2016, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 17, 2016, 11:05:30 AM
Will not be surprised if we lose. Norwich will be the toughest team to beat. Won't give much away, and have a very good attacking line up.
Will not be surprised if we win. Fulham can be a tough team to beat. Shouldn't give much away and our attacking line up is improving.
I agree, we started off attacking and teams quickly tried to shut us down and stop us playing. Norwich are also a free flowing attacking team and tonight could be a very exciting match that either team could win. Love 3 points tonight and a high on to Villa.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
We didn't buy Lonergan he was out of Contract.
Apparently we paid 2 Million for Button,so he wasn't going to come to be no 2 to Betts is he?
And from what I've seen of Betts last season and Button this,Button is easily the better keeper.
But a goalie(and I used to be one) makes one mistake
and all of a sudden your no good.
it's pretty much one a game is it not. And two million wasted. I honestly can't see much between button and lonergan who we could have kept for free
Button has a very long kick but we seem to always play out from the back. In doing so Button isn't that great cutely chipping it out to the wings etc. He often gives away throw ons. Betts imo was much better with his distribution and more accurate. In fact it was the best part of Betts game.
I'm undecided on Button. Sure we concede less but we are a much better team for starters. I don't think the defence would have improved last season by just plonking Button between the sticks.
Things may well change but at this moment in time I see little to suggest Betts couldn't have done what Button has so far and for 2 million it may have been a bit pointless. Could have and should have gone for someone better than both even if it meant spending a little bit more.
Button is better than Lonergan though. I thought Lonergan was crap
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 03:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
We didn't buy Lonergan he was out of Contract.
Apparently we paid 2 Million for Button,so he wasn't going to come to be no 2 to Betts is he?
And from what I've seen of Betts last season and Button this,Button is easily the better keeper.
But a goalie(and I used to be one) makes one mistake
and all of a sudden your no good.
it's pretty much one a game is it not. And two million wasted. I honestly can't see much between button and lonergan who we could have kept for free
Button is letting in goals from shots he should be saving, its that simple. If a player doesn't perform, drop them.
Quote from: Chutney on October 18, 2016, 05:23:07 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 03:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
We didn't buy Lonergan he was out of Contract.
Apparently we paid 2 Million for Button,so he wasn't going to come to be no 2 to Betts is he?
And from what I've seen of Betts last season and Button this,Button is easily the better keeper.
But a goalie(and I used to be one) makes one mistake
and all of a sudden your no good.
it's pretty much one a game is it not. And two million wasted. I honestly can't see much between button and lonergan who we could have kept for free
Button is letting in goals from shots he should be saving, its that simple. If a player doesn't perform, drop them.
Let's drop him then,in fact let's drop the whole side for the chances they been missing up until Saturday.
Button is No I that's why he plays every game as obviously Betts isn't rated by the Boss..Hence he never
picked him for cup games even.
Button letting in goals he should be saving..Really?
Every keeper would be getting dropped at every club then I'm afraid..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: Chutney on October 18, 2016, 05:23:07 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 03:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: Chutney on October 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM
Bettinelli in for Button and Madl in for Ream, everyone else deserves to keep their place.
Don't get this call for Betts all the time.
Button was bought as first choice keeper,and is a better
one than Betts.
I've seen nothing to suggest he is better than Betts. If he was bought in to be outright number one, then why did we buy a keeper who let in as many as lonergan did last season
We didn't buy Lonergan he was out of Contract.
Apparently we paid 2 Million for Button,so he wasn't going to come to be no 2 to Betts is he?
And from what I've seen of Betts last season and Button this,Button is easily the better keeper.
But a goalie(and I used to be one) makes one mistake
and all of a sudden your no good.
it's pretty much one a game is it not. And two million wasted. I honestly can't see much between button and lonergan who we could have kept for free
Button is letting in goals from shots he should be saving, its that simple. If a player doesn't perform, drop them.
Let's drop him then,in fact let's drop the whole side for the chances they been missing up until Saturday.
Button is No I that's why he plays every game as obviously Betts isn't rated by the Boss..Hence he never
picked him for cup games even.
and here endeth of the forum. If the Boss doesn't pick him then no point even discussing them. Fact is, Button isn't that great or even step up on what we had. Our boss picks and persists with lots of players that are out of form/ not good enough, but that doesn't make him right. Nor should we throw our toys out of the pram when players short comings are mentioned as to why they should be changed for another.
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 18, 2016, 03:09:45 PM
I agree with dannyboi, Norwich won't come looking for a point or scabby goal. They're one of the best teams in this division and they'll want to win this.
This is the perfect game for a KMac and Parker midfield. We'all need to protect the ball when we have it, get numbers behind the ball and break quickly when we get a chance to counter attack.
bristol City attacked us and destroyed us using this tactic. If Norwich pin us back, which I would expect us to with a Parker k mac combination, then we will get battered imo. It will be the same back 5 that looked shakey against a poor barnsley. Best thing for them would be to have the ball up the other end for as long as we can.
Not Throwing toys out pram at all just stating a fact.
You'll be praying he makes a mistake tonight then so you can say told you so.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 06:00:45 PM
Not Throwing toys out pram at all just stating a fact.
You'll be praying he makes a mistake tonight then so you can say told you so.
actually I'm praying that this time he doesn't make a miatake
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 06:00:45 PM
Not Throwing toys out pram at all just stating a fact.
You'll be praying he makes a mistake tonight then so you can say told you so.
actually I'm praying that this time he doesn't make a miatake
lol.
Quote from: Statto on October 18, 2016, 06:02:16 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 05:41:14 PM
Fact is, Button isn't that great or even step up on what we had.
"Fact"
Aka opinion
Yes an opinion. Based on evidence.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 18, 2016, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 18, 2016, 06:00:45 PM
Not Throwing toys out pram at all just stating a fact.
You'll be praying he makes a mistake tonight then so you can say told you so.
actually I'm praying that this time he doesn't make a miatake
lol.
well if martin can finally get a goal, then maybe button will go incident free. stranger things have happened. huge game, he will be facing lots of shots. hopefully he will be in the running for motm. (and not like lonnergan used to be because he kept it down to 4 0)
