By all accounts, player was 'seduced' to move to Fulham, a 10M Euro price tag was put on the table, better wages, all parties were happy, yet in the last witching hours, Teflon decided to change the goalposts, and asked for the 10M Euros to be paid in instalments. Eibar kopped the hump, and then turned around asking that Enrich pay the clause himself, which lead to tax issues, causing the deal to the collapse.
Why do we always leave it so bloody late?
http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-seduced-move-fulham-wanted-pay-installments/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/player-seduced-move-fulham-wanted-pay-installments/)
this one falls into the we do not really know the truth category and so as not t upset anyone.... all we can see is that if the rports are somewhere in the region of accutrate it fits a pattern of not managing transfers all that well especially in the cold of winter. we got mitrog despite being obviously unfit, he had been unfit before he arrived for ages so whatever our medical team found or didn't was bound to be extremely high risk, ruiz and his late paperwork and generally russian roulette nature of doing business so late it is likely not to happen.
i don't know the rights and wrongs of this case, but it certainly is just another mess up if true. what is IMO worse, we should have got him signed well before judgement day, no need to wait. There are those that say january transfers are difficult and have to take time, but they are wrong. It would be easier and safer to get on with it earlier. russian roulette with the clubs future is what I have said often and in reality that is what our senior management have done this season during this window.
The article doesn't say we tried to change late on just we offered instalments, who is to say they didn't accept instalments and then try to change the whole payment?
Either way we left it late very late, i am still tyring to figure out why we do that if we have targets, I know their must be reason as and i know most deals are done in thelast 2 days )think that was a stat someone posted) but it doesn't make sense.
It looks like a classic case of Ali Macintosh syndrome. We left the deal until deadline day despite needing a striker since the summer.
We wanted the player.
The player wanted to come.
Eidar didn't want him to go.
So they threw in the tax issue which delayed the deal past the time limit.
Most transfer fees worlwide are paid in installments.
Why didn't we move earlier? Dunno. Maybe Elrich wasn't our first choice. Maybe the negotiations were protracted. Incompetent penpushers is another possibility. Who knows?
I am disappointed we did not get the player also. But, paying a transfer fee in installments is not all that unusual is it? And it's certainly not insulting.
My take is Sergi's club knew they would eventually lose him with that buyout clause in place but, rather than negotiate a new deal with him, they rode that contract as long as they could. And when someone (us) came calling, they pitched a fit and made an effort to complicate the deal as much as possible to buy time to renegotiate with the player.
We could have offered the 10 million up front and I'd still wager the outcome would have been the same.
I don't think Enrich really wanted to come, I think he was using our interest to get a higher salary
I blame snide martin.....wouldn't it have been wiser to elbow snide out & get an alternative in early January - or is my thinking to simples
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on February 08, 2017, 02:04:55 PM
I blame snide martin.....wouldn't it have been wiser to elbow snide out & get an alternative in early January - or is my thinking to simples
I think not returning Martin to Derby was the overall intention.
Quote from: AlexW132 on February 08, 2017, 01:58:39 PM
I don't think Enrich really wanted to come, I think he was using our interest to get a higher salary
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Wouldn't be the first time that has happened to us.
Quote from: filham on February 08, 2017, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: AlexW132 on February 08, 2017, 01:58:39 PM
I don't think Enrich really wanted to come, I think he was using our interest to get a higher salary
Wouldn't be the first time that has happened to us.
*cough* Dunk *cough*
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Sorry to repeat myself. But as Fulham repeat themselves on transfer window deadline day as often as I do. I wonder, do the club really want to buy a player or are they just going through the motions on the last day in the vague hope that something may happen.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on February 08, 2017, 01:42:46 PM
I am disappointed we did not get the player also. But, paying a transfer fee in installments is not all that unusual is it? And it's certainly not insulting.
My take is Sergi's club knew they would eventually lose him with that buyout clause in place but, rather than negotiate a new deal with him, they rode that contract as long as they could. And when someone (us) came calling, they pitched a fit and made an effort to complicate the deal as much as possible to buy time to renegotiate with the player.
We could have offered the 10 million up front and I'd still wager the outcome would have been the same.
That sounds right to me. But we'll never know for sure now. We should have dropped the installment payments demand and agreed to pay all up front to test their mettle. Then we'd know for sure. If adding him meant a much greater likelihood of garnering enough points for promotion, then we were penny foolish in the grand scheme of things.
Quote from: river phoenix on February 08, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Jokanovic is not an amateur game player. He is yet to make up his mind what he wants to do - I suspect Fuilham is a bit of a love/hate relationship which are often the hardest to walk away from. I have a strange feeling that promotion may be the end of the challenge that is irking him on. I think he'll stay unless and until his value is really high among the clubs he really covets.
Quote from: toshes mate on February 09, 2017, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on February 08, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Jokanovic is not an amateur game player. He is yet to make up his mind what he wants to do - I suspect Fuilham is a bit of a love/hate relationship which are often the hardest to walk away from. I have a strange feeling that promotion may be the end of the challenge that is irking him on. I think he'll stay unless and until his value is really high among the clubs he really covets.
So your birdy knows nothing about his contrcat situation then?
I have a mate who works for Fulham he shares bits and pieces with me, I never divulge on the board what he has told me as I think it is not wise too. For me if you divulge you should name wher eyou got the info from as otherwise (in the past) people always start to find it annoying and give it my sisters ex boyfriends brothers mate works here or there treatment. Just a few words of warning TM, you dont need ot heed them but tyring to be helpful.
Quote from: westcliff white on February 09, 2017, 08:18:01 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 09, 2017, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on February 08, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Jokanovic is not an amateur game player. He is yet to make up his mind what he wants to do - I suspect Fuilham is a bit of a love/hate relationship which are often the hardest to walk away from. I have a strange feeling that promotion may be the end of the challenge that is irking him on. I think he'll stay unless and until his value is really high among the clubs he really covets.
So your birdy knows nothing about his contrcat situation then?
I have a mate who works for Fulham he shares bits and pieces with me, I never divulge on the board what he has told me as I think it is not wise too. For me if you divulge you should name wher eyou got the info from as otherwise (in the past) people always start to find it annoying and give it my sisters ex boyfriends brothers mate works here or there treatment. Just a few words of warning TM, you dont need ot heed them but tyring to be helpful.
Thank you for the warning, westcliff white. It is appreciated in the context it is given. I protect my source in a manner that is approved by that source and as I have already stated it is a relationship that goes back a very long time. We have worked together and share several common interests outside football and that part of our relationship is more important to us than anything else. There are always doubters and it is right there should be.
Quote from: toshes mate on February 09, 2017, 08:41:06 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on February 09, 2017, 08:18:01 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 09, 2017, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on February 08, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Jokanovic is not an amateur game player. He is yet to make up his mind what he wants to do - I suspect Fuilham is a bit of a love/hate relationship which are often the hardest to walk away from. I have a strange feeling that promotion may be the end of the challenge that is irking him on. I think he'll stay unless and until his value is really high among the clubs he really covets.
So your birdy knows nothing about his contrcat situation then?
I have a mate who works for Fulham he shares bits and pieces with me, I never divulge on the board what he has told me as I think it is not wise too. For me if you divulge you should name wher eyou got the info from as otherwise (in the past) people always start to find it annoying and give it my sisters ex boyfriends brothers mate works here or there treatment. Just a few words of warning TM, you dont need ot heed them but tyring to be helpful.
Thank you for the warning, westcliff white. It is appreciated in the context it is given. I protect my source in a manner that is approved by that source and as I have already stated it is a relationship that goes back a very long time. We have worked together and share several common interests outside football and that part of our relationship is more important to us than anything else. There are always doubters and it is right there should be.
I agree with your comments, just wanted to make you aware
Quote from: Statto on February 08, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
Teflon is an accountant. So he sees the cost of us paying £10m up front rather than in installments, which is what, maybe £1m in interest spread over the next few years? And he balances that against the risk of not signing the player (or an alternate option) until next August or January, which to him doesn't mean very much.
Unfortunately this cock-up will probably be what stops us going up this year, meaning we miss out on another £150m of premiership revenue. And Jokanovic will probably walk, meaning we don't go up next year either, costing another £150m. Add that to the various cock-ups that condemned us to this division for the last two seasons, and this man's idiocy has probably cost Fulham Football Club a sum approaching £1 billion.
As I said before, how he's not been sacked I will never understand.
I think you have summed that up rather well. When I say something along the same lines of questioning how is it that somebody in such a senior position that has serially failed remains in place, it often attracts much disquiet.
I do wonder how Mr Khan has allowed such poor performance to go on for so long.
It reminds me of a series of films that were made many years ago highlighting similiar incompetence, inefficiency and negligence in an American Police Force, they called it " The Keystone Cops ".
Quote from: nose on February 09, 2017, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Statto on February 08, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
Teflon is an accountant. So he sees the cost of us paying £10m up front rather than in installments, which is what, maybe £1m in interest spread over the next few years? And he balances that against the risk of not signing the player (or an alternate option) until next August or January, which to him doesn't mean very much.
Unfortunately this cock-up will probably be what stops us going up this year, meaning we miss out on another £150m of premiership revenue. And Jokanovic will probably walk, meaning we don't go up next year either, costing another £150m. Add that to the various cock-ups that condemned us to this division for the last two seasons, and this man's idiocy has probably cost Fulham Football Club a sum approaching £1 billion.
As I said before, how he's not been sacked I will never understand.
I think you have summed that up rather well. When I say something along the same lines of questioning how is it that somebody in such a senior position that has serially failed remains in place, it often attracts much disquiet.
I do wonder how Mr Khan has allowed such poor performance to go on for so long.
Both of you have summed up my feelings on this.
Shahid Kahn's problem is that he is just not very good at managing professional sports operations. The evidence is there to see on both sides of the Atlantic.
At Fulham the reasons why are fairly obvious. He delegates - but to the wrong people. He has his son and his son's friend from university in positions of influence. Nepotism at its worst and almost always leading to an inept system of management.
He seeks advice - again from the wrong people. He has a weak yes man as his chief adviser (Ali Mac of course) who has shown himself to be woefully inept at picking managers, managing managers and dealing with transfers. He has been demoted only to bounce back when his stronger opponents move on.
Those who have worked in the corporate world have all dealt with people like that. They are a malevolent influence in the heart of an organisation. Untrustworthy, always smiling, always stabbing behind your back. Political in the nastiest sense of the word. The only good thing I can say about him is that at least he provides a degree of continuity. But that is not working when he is back with such strong influence on team matters.
Unfortunately, I too believe that Joka will walk. It's what he does when he comes up against this type of situation, this type of management.
Nogood "hope springs infernal, see" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on February 09, 2017, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: nose on February 09, 2017, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Statto on February 08, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
Teflon is an accountant. So he sees the cost of us paying £10m up front rather than in installments, which is what, maybe £1m in interest spread over the next few years? And he balances that against the risk of not signing the player (or an alternate option) until next August or January, which to him doesn't mean very much.
Unfortunately this cock-up will probably be what stops us going up this year, meaning we miss out on another £150m of premiership revenue. And Jokanovic will probably walk, meaning we don't go up next year either, costing another £150m. Add that to the various cock-ups that condemned us to this division for the last two seasons, and this man's idiocy has probably cost Fulham Football Club a sum approaching £1 billion.
As I said before, how he's not been sacked I will never understand.
I think you have summed that up rather well. When I say something along the same lines of questioning how is it that somebody in such a senior position that has serially failed remains in place, it often attracts much disquiet.
I do wonder how Mr Khan has allowed such poor performance to go on for so long.
Both of you have summed up my feelings on this.
Tony Kahn's problem is that he is just not very good at managing professional sports operations. The evidence is there to see on both sides of the Atlantic.
At Fulham the reasons why are fairly obvious. He delegates - but to the wrong people. He has his son and his son's friend from university in positions of influence. Nepotism at its worst and almost always leading to an inept system of management.
He seeks advice - again from the wrong people. He has a weak yes man as his chief adviser (Ali Mac of course) who has shown himself to be woefully inept at picking managers, managing managers and dealing with transfers. He has been demoted only to bounce back when his stronger opponents move on.
Those who have worked in the corporate world have all dealt with people like that. They are a malevolent influence in the heart of an organisation. Untrustworthy, always smiling, always stabbing behind your back. Political in the nastiest sense of the word. The only good thing I can say about him is that at least he provides a degree of continuity. But that is not working when he is back with such strong influence on team matters.
Unfortunately, I too believe that Joka will walk. It's what he does when he comes up against this type of situation, this type of management.
Nogood "hope springs infernal, see" Boyo
and i agree with all three of you, and that in itself is an endorsement of Biblical Proportions.
"and i agree with all three of you, and that in itself is an endorsement of Biblical Proportions"
I'm oft amazed that there aren't more Ali Mac threads running around here. Too painful or too opaque?
In short, black as bibles as Dylan Thomas would say.
Nogood "up to no good, see" Boyo
There appears to be more Mackintosh threads surfacing when it's raining.
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on February 09, 2017, 04:10:27 PM
"and i agree with all three of you, and that in itself is an endorsement of Biblical Proportions"
I'm oft amazed that there aren't more Ali Mac threads running around here. Too painful or too opaque?
In short, black as bibles as Dylan Thomas would say.
Nogood "up to no good, see" Boyo
I used to start or join in with such threads but it tended to bring down the wrath of wrath on my head from posters that never see nay long term bad being done. I also started getting an automatic message saying I am not allowed to repeat myself which is as a result of an algorithm in the web site.
And also with joca we play good football so i am less unhappy, until of course this last transfer window when my outrage was reignited. and as a result of my righteous indignation and frustration that some people continue to defend the indefensible I had at least one thread removed (I am not complaining just what happened I can be a bit hysterical, I know that).
But really the issue with the CEO is hard to understand, no business can allow such serial failure to go quite so unexplained or dealt with. It does seem to me he is in the end responsible for completely avoidable errors recurring.
Quote from: toshes mate on February 09, 2017, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on February 08, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Jokanovic is not an amateur game player. He is yet to make up his mind what he wants to do - I suspect Fuilham is a bit of a love/hate relationship which are often the hardest to walk away from. I have a strange feeling that promotion may be the end of the challenge that is irking him on. I think he'll stay unless and until his value is really high among the clubs he really covets.
Thanks.
I also think Joka stays. Fulham is, imo, a great challenge for him. Nice and traditional club, a fine place to live in, a good team which (with a couple more adequate additions in the summer) can have a real go for automatic promotion next season... He`s marked his stamp on this team, especially in style of play which is the most entertaining since Roy so I believe there are more pros than cons for him to stay at Fulham.
Lets get the stats man to run the numbers on Ali Mac and see where he stands.
On a side note, anyone know what the atmosphere is like with Einrich now? Does he refuse to play? Just get on with it..? Etc etc
Quote from: river phoenix on February 09, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 09, 2017, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on February 08, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 08, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
I have been told what is thought to have gone on in pieced together detail. I will not share what I have been told because it would not be fair on my source, my little bird, who does not want what she knows to be in the public domain to protect her reputation. Okay, she wasn't actually in the room, but she is smart enough to find out and put pieces together from witnesses who were, and build up a picture of what probably happened like the good 'detective and information gatherer' I know her to be. Fulham were not smart, in my opinion, and it isn't the first time in the past few transfer windows. If players do not want to come here that is fine and unavoidable but that doesn't appear to be the case with this particular transfer. And there didn't seem to be a definite plan B which is even more revealing.
Does a little bird knows something about Joka`s new contract?
Jokanovic is not an amateur game player. He is yet to make up his mind what he wants to do - I suspect Fuilham is a bit of a love/hate relationship which are often the hardest to walk away from. I have a strange feeling that promotion may be the end of the challenge that is irking him on. I think he'll stay unless and until his value is really high among the clubs he really covets.
Thanks.
I also think Joka stays. Fulham is, imo, a great challenge for him. Nice and traditional club, a fine place to live in, a good team which (with a couple more adequate additions in the summer) can have a real go for automatic promotion next season... He`s marked his stamp on this team, especially in style of play which is the most entertaining since Roy so I believe there are more pros than cons for him to stay at Fulham.
You may be correct but I think he will want a water tight guarantee he can properly strengthen next season. And that pre supposes we keep the key three men in cairney, johansen and macdonald. It is them that are really making the team hum. That and four top class full backs (for this division anyway).
However my instinct is that if a more established team comes knocking he will go. Not because he doesn't like it here, who couldn't? But because he is not properly supported and as such we fail to fulfil our potential.
Quote from: Milo on February 10, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
On a side note, anyone know what the atmosphere is like with Einrich now? Does he refuse to play? Just get on with it..? Etc etc
Signed a new deal with Eibar
Quote from: ffc2004 on February 10, 2017, 12:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milo on February 10, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
On a side note, anyone know what the atmosphere is like with Einrich now? Does he refuse to play? Just get on with it..? Etc etc
Signed a new deal with Eibar
Sounds like Eibar's equivalent of McCormack for us. Hopefully with the same sort of outcome in the summer.
Couple of points:
a) to nose: wouldn't disagree with your perception that he may take up an offer from an English club if it was a good one but I don't think he would trust any guarantee that came out of owner's mouth as he is far too savvy for that.
b) to ffc2004: Einrich already had a new contract with Eibar on the table when Fulham's negotiations started is what I understood to be the situation. Whether that was latterly amended in some way is another matter however.
Quote from: ffc2004 on February 10, 2017, 12:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milo on February 10, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
On a side note, anyone know what the atmosphere is like with Einrich now? Does he refuse to play? Just get on with it..? Etc etc
Signed a new deal with Eibar
with a bumped up buyout clause as well, I'd wager.
We was Linked to Ole Selnes this summer:
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/fulham-had-e10m-plus-bid-rejected-for-ole-selnaes/ (http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/fulham-had-e10m-plus-bid-rejected-for-ole-selnaes/)
He and St Etienne is playing Man Utd tonight, if anyone want to see him in action.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 08, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
Sorry to repeat myself. But as Fulham repeat themselves on transfer window deadline day as often as I do. I wonder, do the club really want to buy a player or are they just going through the motions on the last day in the vague hope that something may happen.
This is Fulhams' way of keeping fans quiet. I remember back in the 60's when Jimmy Greaves wanted to come back to England from Italy we put in a written bid of £50,000, the Italians just laughed and sold him to Spurs for £99,999
Quote from: gang on February 16, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
This is Fulhams' way of keeping fans quiet. I remember back in the 60's when Jimmy Greaves wanted to come back to England from Italy we put in a written bid of £50,000, the Italians just laughed and sold him to Spurs for £99,999
Never heard that one. Sounds like a typical Tommy Trinder joke (i.e not all that funny) seeing as Chelsea sold him for £80k and would have paid more than that to get him back.
Haynes/Greaves was a sublime combination. By my reckoning they played together 22 times [England and England u23] which produced 30 goals (Greaves 22, Haynes 8).
Quote from: cmg on February 16, 2017, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: gang on February 16, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
This is Fulhams' way of keeping fans quiet. I remember back in the 60's when Jimmy Greaves wanted to come back to England from Italy we put in a written bid of £50,000, the Italians just laughed and sold him to Spurs for £99,999
Never heard that one. Sounds like a typical Tommy Trinder joke (i.e not all that funny) seeing as Chelsea sold him for £80k and would have paid more than that to get him back.
Haynes/Greaves was a sublime combination. By my reckoning they played together 22 times [England and England u23] which produced 30 goals (Greaves 22, Haynes 8).
and Bobby Smith was the third player in that superb inside forward trio.
