He got quite a few minutes to show what he is like today
On pitch for 2 goals!
He looked nippy and put himself about. Promising.
Quote from: Neil D on February 11, 2017, 05:19:24 PM
He looked nippy and put himself about. Promising.
So the exact opposite of the Derby snake
Must start over Martin
He looked nippy and put himself about. Promising.
So the exact opposite of the Derby snake
He must start on Tuesday & Martin sould not even be on the bench even if we don´t have a back up should Cyriac not last the full 90 mins or gets injured.
Quote from: grandad on February 11, 2017, 05:38:24 PM
He must start on Tuesday & Martin sould not even be on the bench even if we don´t have a back up should Cyriac not last the full 90 mins or gets injured.
:plus one:
Did fine. Certainly didn't look out of his depth.
I want to temper this a little, he is coming from a very average league, I've seen it having lived there for 3 years, I saw him play for Anderlecht too.
Don't expect miracles form the start, very few few players get a Pogrebniak start and if they do they then drop away, hopefully he can be consistent and contribute.
He shows somthin martin will never ahow.desire and energy keep him in joka.
So what will happen if Martin is on the starting team sheet on Tuesday? Dysfunctional management, stupid plan from on high undermining the head coach, or just a collective cry of angst? Forest are on the floor at the moment so once again 'our' ambition will be tested right from the moment the starting eleven are known.
Martin was pathetic and an embarrassment - hope he never plays again
We should'nt boo I know but what was the reception for Martin like . . . . . . . as he is being discussed in this thread.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on February 11, 2017, 06:06:12 PM
So what will happen if Martin is on the starting team sheet on Tuesday? Dysfunctional management, stupid plan from on high undermining the head coach, or just a collective cry of angst? Forest are on the floor at the moment so once again 'our' ambition will be tested right from the moment the starting eleven are known.
It's a real opportunity to get back to back wins. We cannot and must not slip up.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 11, 2017, 06:18:41 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on February 11, 2017, 06:06:12 PM
So what will happen if Martin is on the starting team sheet on Tuesday? Dysfunctional management, stupid plan from on high undermining the head coach, or just a collective cry of angst? Forest are on the floor at the moment so once again 'our' ambition will be tested right from the moment the starting eleven are known.
It's a real opportunity to get back to back wins. We cannot and must not slip up.
Indeed but will Martin will part of the challenge or will the arm wrestling of who is in charge be resolved and he is out? To be honest I would rather Martin was left out and as somebody has pointed only players who want to be here figure on the team sheet.
Quote from: Statto on February 11, 2017, 06:22:42 PM
Agree with everyone else
Only a small player but puts himself about, even for high balls, a bit like forestieri
Crucially he showed a good first touch and he can return a short pass
Very promising IMO
Must start over Martin on Tuesday
Agree entirely, he was full of enthusiasm but we need to see more of him to see if he can hold down the job.
Looking forward to seeing how he performs over 90 minutes on Tuesday. The problem is if after say 60 minutes he fades badly then what happens, Martin is not going to make an impact sub.
Quote from: Baszab on February 11, 2017, 06:08:24 PM
Martin was pathetic and an embarrassment - hope he never plays again
Bet you he starts against Forest.
Much better than Martin and I applaud Slav for taking him off as it clearly wasn't working. He's got a good leap on him and his movement is nice. Seems to already fit with our linkup play. Should start the Forest game but I'm not holding my breath.
I think Cyriac should start as well with Kebano on the bench. I have been a supporter of Martin - in spite of everything - but I think he is too ponderous to fit in with our high tempo, quick touch play. He does well enough once he is presented with a chance but he was AWOL today. Cyriac is more aggressive, much hungrier and a lot quicker.
Did ok, some nice touches and running. Certainly a different option to Martin if we decide to play three quick men in the attacking roles.
Quote from: westcliff white on February 11, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
very few few players get a Pogrebniak start and if they do they then drop away, hopefully [Cyriac] can be consistent and contribute.
I take that to be a positive. I was encouraged by contributions trying to make up for that lame number twenty five (who he?) clearly lost in another world.
Quote from: toshes mate on February 11, 2017, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on February 11, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
very few few players get a Pogrebniak start and if they do they then drop away, hopefully [Cyriac] can be consistent and contribute.
I take that to be a positive. I was encouraged by contributions trying to make up for that lame number twenty five (who he?) clearly lost in another world.
Funny how people see things different, I thought he was crap myself...lol
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 11, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 11, 2017, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on February 11, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
very few few players get a Pogrebniak start and if they do they then drop away, hopefully [Cyriac] can be consistent and contribute.
I take that to be a positive. I was encouraged by contributions trying to make up for that lame number twenty five (who he?) clearly lost in another world.
Funny how people see things different, I thought he was crap myself...lol
Mince, that's a bit harsh. Give the guy a break, he's quick and positive and judge him after about 6 games.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on February 11, 2017, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 11, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 11, 2017, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on February 11, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
very few few players get a Pogrebniak start and if they do they then drop away, hopefully [Cyriac] can be consistent and contribute.
I take that to be a positive. I was encouraged by contributions trying to make up for that lame number twenty five (who he?) clearly lost in another world.
Funny how people see things different, I thought he was crap myself...lol
Mince, that's a bit harsh. Give the guy a break, he's quick and positive and judge him after about 6 games.
It was a joke for Toshes Mate relating to my David Button post.
Cyriac did OK for the time he was on.
i thnk cyriac was...... a real prospect.
his pace and energy showed what a lump martin really is, his introduction started the turnaround.
by the way somebody has mentioned pog, i never thought pog was any good even though he got off to an apparently good start, martin reminds me of pog
Quote from: nose on February 11, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
i thnk cyriac was...... a real prospect.
his pace and energy showed what a lump martin really is, his introduction started the turnaround.
by the way somebody has mentioned pog, i never thought pog was any good even though he got off to an apparently good start, martin reminds me of pog
For the record I never compared Pog and Cyriac, I said to temper expectations, as those that start like Pog generally fall away and have a barren spelling the Pog did as well, otherwise everyone will get on his back. I said hopefully, if he adjusts from an average league, he will be consistent
Quote from: westcliff white on February 11, 2017, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: nose on February 11, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
i thnk cyriac was...... a real prospect.
his pace and energy showed what a lump martin really is, his introduction started the turnaround.
by the way somebody has mentioned pog, i never thought pog was any good even though he got off to an apparently good start, martin reminds me of pog
For the record I never compared Pog and Cyriac, I said to temper expectations, as those that start like Pog generally fall away and have a barren spelling the Pog did as well, otherwise everyone will get on his back. I said hopefully, if he adjusts from an average league, he will be consistent
i know that and actually i thought your comment was really interesting.
I just threw in my opinion of pog because i never took to him but sort of have a good feeling about cyriac.
