Poll
Question:
In our new feature the FOFcast, Westcliffe White and Dannyboi have a disagreement about our two keepers. Who do you agree with?
Option 1: Dannyboi
votes: 7
Option 2: Westcliffe White
votes: 3
Hi Guys.
In our new feature the FOFcast, Westcliffe White and Dannyboi have a disagreement about our two keepers. Who do you agree with?
Go to 28mins 15secs and listen until 34mins to hear the debate.
https://www.buzzsprout.com/111200/534736-fofcast-1-mp3
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Betts... no problem
Not listened yet but I prefer Bett's. Not much in it tbh.
If push comes to shove, it's Betts for me. But as has been said, not much in it.
Definitely Betts over Button although I think we need to upgrade on both.
Betts for me and he's still young enough to get even better.
I wouldn't have had this problem - I'd have kept Stockdale.
Quote from: Holders on July 13, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I wouldn't have had this problem - I'd have kept Stockdale.
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Quote from: Holders on July 13, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I wouldn't have had this problem - I'd have kept Stockdale.
So true.
As I'm unable to listen, can you let me know who voted for who so I can add my hat to the ring sir whitejc.
Bring back Maik Tayor
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 13, 2017, 08:55:53 PM
Bring back Maik Tayor
Now he was a Goalkeeper that was safe as houses.
think you need to adjust the poll at the top 2 people have voted for Hi Guys. In our new feature the FOFcast, Westcliffe White and Dannyboi have a disagreement about our two keepers. Who do you agree with? Go to 28mins 15secs and listen until 34mins to hear the debate. https://www.buzzsprout.com/111200/534736-fofcast-
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I am clearly in the minority here, but would prefer Button to both Bettinelli and Stockdale.
Quote from: Asotosyios on July 13, 2017, 09:12:26 PM
I am clearly in the minority here, but would prefer Button to both Bettinelli and Stockdale.
Well if David Button turns out to be the No1 choice at the Commencement of the season. Let us hope for his sake and all our sakes, he has got his confidence back, and has worked hard improving his distribution.
Quote from: Nero on July 13, 2017, 08:59:57 PM
think you need to adjust the poll at the top 2 people have voted for Hi Guys. In our new feature the FOFcast, Westcliffe White and Dannyboi have a disagreement about our two keepers. Who do you agree with? Go to 28mins 15secs and listen until 34mins to hear the debate. https://www.buzzsprout.com/111200/534736-fofcast-
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Lol classic! I've reset the vote.
1v0 to me.........i wonder who voted???
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 13, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
As I'm unable to listen, can you let me know who voted for who so I can add my hat to the ring sir whitejc.
It's 5mins mate. Have a listen otherwise you will never know lol .........
Dont think any of them are Premiership goalies. They all have too many flaws. Betts for me if I had to pick.
If we are serious about getting promoted we need a very good new and experienced keeper. If not stick with Betts
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on July 13, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 13, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
As I'm unable to listen, can you let me know who voted for who so I can add my hat to the ring sir whitejc.
It's 5mins mate. Have a listen otherwise you will never know lol .........
I genuinely mean i can't listen. Just moved to a new neck of the woods and when I click play it buffers forever and nothing. I'm getting wifi tomorrow so will have it on repeat until the next episode. I've moved closer to you now. I'm in honour oak now. Did a job in se3 today and was thinking how I must be driving past you. What a great view of London you have from blackheath.
Oh and sent my ramblings of my Fulham life to loveffc. Please feel free to edit the Michael Jackson statue out of it.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 13, 2017, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on July 13, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 13, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
As I'm unable to listen, can you let me know who voted for who so I can add my hat to the ring sir whitejc.
It's 5mins mate. Have a listen otherwise you will never know lol .........
I genuinely mean i can't listen. Just moved to a new neck of the woods and when I click play it buffers forever and nothing. I'm getting wifi tomorrow so will have it on repeat until the next episode. I've moved closer to you now. I'm in honour oak now. Did a job in se3 today and was thinking how I must be driving past you. What a great view of London you have from blackheath.
My bus goes through Blackheath. It's a nice part of London. No excuses now to meet up more often then if you're closer.
Let me know what you think when you hear it. Believe it or not I value your opinion lol
Has to be Betts for me. The defence seem to trust him more and he can only get better from here
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 13, 2017, 08:55:53 PM
Bring back Maik Tayor
Now he was a Goalkeeper that was safe as houses.
but his kicking was even worse than buttons. Wouldn't have lasted long in slavs system
Bettenelli for me. Move for Button just hasn't worked out a move to Reading would be a decent move for him.
Offload Button to Reading.
Bring in a new keeper? But as I live in the real world .. Betts.
Agree with both Danny and westcliffe that neither are good enough ! Betts would edge it simply because he seems to want it more.
Quote from: colinwhite on July 14, 2017, 07:40:42 AM
Agree with both Danny and westcliffe that neither are good enough ! Betts would edge it simply because he seems to want it more.
My thoughts.
The three questions I ask myself on Button is this, did we see the best of him at times last season, can he reproduce that form throughout the season and would it be good enough?
My answers are Yes. No and maybe!
Yes, he's a decent Championship Keeper.
No, he has mistakes in his game.
Maybe he's good enough for a top 2 team.
As for Bettinelli, I say Yes, Yes and maybe
Yes, as above
Yes, he's getting better all the time
Maybe, as above.
The problem is we are looking for a keeper who can hold his own in the traditional goalie "talents" and expect him to play with the ball at his feet like a sweeper and even PL teams struggle with finding these individuals!
Personally I'd like us to sign a better all round keeper and keep Bettinelli (ala Schwarzer & Stockdale) as back up but he seems determined to find a place at a club he can become first choice so we would need to up his contract and sweet talk him to stay and I don''t think that's how we operate.
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2017, 01:24:24 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 13, 2017, 08:55:53 PM
Bring back Maik Tayor
Now he was a Goalkeeper that was safe as houses.
but his kicking was even worse than buttons. Wouldn't have lasted long in slavs system
He didn't need to kick it 'oh wise one ', his throwing was superb, and he was a safe pair of hands, especially with crosses.
Slavs system is not the be all and end all, there was life before he arrived, and there will be life after he has long gone.
At the beginning of last season Button had the edge but when Betts came back into the side late last season he was much improved and looked the best we had.
If Betts now continues to improve he could become fit for a promotion chasing side.
Of course we will have to wait for a few matches into the season to see if Betts is still looking good.
Betts for me, especially on the evidence of his form during the latter part of the season. However if we let Button go it leaves us awfully thin for cover. Personally I would like to see us sign a really top quality keeper but only after we have addressed more glaring requirements at the centre of defence and a striker.
and just three weeks left before the big Ko.
I remember when we had EVDS and Maik Taylor, similar conversations, ended up losing them both close together seemed to take an age to get a decent replacement (I think Niemi). Deja vu Rodney?
Betts for me to stay, mainly because he looks just like my next door neighbour.
Be a shame to see Betts move on I think he is a very good keeper but he will want regular football & I think Joka will look to bring a keeper from abroad in. Wouldn't surprise me if both keepers move on with a new one coming in & Rodak promoted to number 2
Can see the logic in selling them both. We have a queue of academy keepers forming in Rodak, and the Normans. May do well to let one of them, likely Rodak, have a clearer path to first team football, as well as generating much needed funds benefitting from the interest in 2 average keepers, who, although contributing to our "success " last season, weren't seen as integral to it.
Both keepers are a work in progress , but other clubs are willing to pay for them, and I think at the end of relatively successful seasons, it's vital to cash in while they're hot on the assets that are expendable to be able to keep the assets that aren't.
Inevitably, our aim is premier league , and neither first team keeper has shown to be good enough for that level. Personally I'd take a keeper on loan for a year then buy a bigger name in 12 months when promotion is hopefully attained. There are plenty of keepers out there who won't get a game and who would improve us whether it's a Robles, Lee Grant, McGregor/ Marshall etc to start the ball rolling. Either way, it's a position we can't afford to trial with or allow a bedding in period, it needs to be an instant success or not change it at all.
We done this in the premier league and ended up with the Drobny, Lastuvka, Crossley, Warner, Niemi, Keller fiasco. My fear is we sell these 2 and end up with someone from the Belgian league who takes 2/3 months getting to grips with new surroundings, culture , language which maybe is a luxury that can't be afforded in this league unless its VDS the second .
Makes no odds now as both are being rumoured to be moving on...
Perhaps Klines stats have convinced him we do not need a Goal Tender and has decided to offload all Goalies, and just play with outfield players. Which he obviously feels is a cunning plan.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 14, 2017, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on July 14, 2017, 01:24:24 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 13, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on July 13, 2017, 08:55:53 PM
Bring back Maik Tayor
Now he was a Goalkeeper that was safe as houses.
but his kicking was even worse than buttons. Wouldn't have lasted long in slavs system
He didn't need to kick it 'oh wise one ', his throwing was superb, and he was a safe pair of hands, especially with crosses.
Slavs system is not the be all and end all, there was life before he arrived, and there will be life after he has long gone.
:plus one: :plus one: :plus one:
Bettinelli is in Austria (pic no. 18 on offal website Austria Day 1) As far as I know, it's the first time he's been seen in pre-season.
Hmmm the plot thickens.
Looks like Reading have gone for Mannone after we priced them out of a deal for Button...
So looks like we may have them both by the end of the window!
Bettinelli is a drastically better GK, Button cost us 10-15 points last season, think where that would have left us in the table...
Not much in it really,betts finished season well plus button gave away some important points villa away derby away,and had some nightmare games has do all keepers at times.
