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Title: transfer business done?
Post by: nose on August 10, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
I think that unless the manager/head coach has a mega rant in public, again, we are probably concluded.

Or am I wrong, do we know that something is imminently about to happen.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: river phoenix on August 10, 2017, 10:27:00 AM
There are 3 weeks until deadline. Of course it isn`t done, last year we signed 6 players from 10.08. to the 31.08.

A also expect 3 more - CB, LB and a striker.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: westcliff white on August 10, 2017, 10:28:19 AM
I believe we have 3 more incomings as of right now. sop don't think we are done at all.

Hope I am right
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Horsfield_No9 on August 10, 2017, 10:59:30 AM
I think we must sign a left back. Can't see this position being risked as it is. I don't see us looking for a centre back so think we are done in that position, midfield is stronger now than last year. We still need a striker but don't trust we will get this done. The latest is again being linked to Callum Robinson of Preston. I think the intention to sign one is there as the 9 shirt is free, just not confident we will get the player we want in.

Prediction

-Left back signed on a perm
-Striker on loan signed on deadline day
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: hovewhite on August 10, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on August 10, 2017, 10:59:30 AM
I think we must sign a left back. Can't see this position being risked as it is. I don't see us looking for a centre back so think we are done in that position, midfield is stronger now than last year. We still need a striker but don't trust we will get this done. The latest is again being linked to Callum Robinson of Preston. I think the intention to sign one is there as the 9 shirt is free, just not confident we will get the player we want in.

Prediction

-Left back signed on a perm
-Striker on loan signed on deadline day

It wouldnt be fulham without the drama of a deadline day signing.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Riverside on August 10, 2017, 11:06:57 AM
Certainly not done . But I do think the remaining signings will be in the last week / day of the transfer window . That's when the pressure moves to the seller to conclude a deal in the meantime they have all the negotiating power . My guess is 3/4 more with a couple of these loans .


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Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: MJG on August 10, 2017, 11:07:40 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 10, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on August 10, 2017, 10:59:30 AM
I think we must sign a left back. Can't see this position being risked as it is. I don't see us looking for a centre back so think we are done in that position, midfield is stronger now than last year. We still need a striker but don't trust we will get this done. The latest is again being linked to Callum Robinson of Preston. I think the intention to sign one is there as the 9 shirt is free, just not confident we will get the player we want in.

Prediction

-Left back signed on a perm
-Striker on loan signed on deadline day

It wouldnt be fulham without the drama of a deadline day signing.
We all secretly enjoying waiting to 11pm to find out what nomad we have signed on loan who's been kicking their heels around in the corridors of Motspur park for 12 hours while our other targets sign for someone else.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on August 10, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
Have Fulham ever failed to sign a player after the first game of the season? We always seem to sign someone in the last few days
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: westcliff white on August 10, 2017, 11:10:54 AM
I am with Riverside, think that sums up what is likely to happen, although maybe one before the last week / few days
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Riverside on August 10, 2017, 11:11:02 AM
BTW The only fans I see that are happy with the window so far are Man C and we know they have not finished yet !! I remain of the view that the window should be slammed shut latest this Friday for the start of the premier league if not last Friday for the Championship start . Every team are still not finished with business and unsettled


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Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: MJG on August 10, 2017, 11:16:37 AM
If anyone wants to look, here are all the Windows around the world

https://www.fifatms.com/itms/worldwide-transfer-windows-calendar/
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Roberty on August 10, 2017, 11:22:11 AM
Does anyone think that any other club has finished it's transfer business or are we alone?

Sadly - last minute is the way of transfer windows - in all divisions

Towards the end of the window it is "make your mind up time" for selling clubs and the players - there is no more hanging on for a better deal or an offer from a club in a higher division - if the player is moving on the time is up
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 10, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
With approximately 3 weeks left of the transfer window, there is enough time to bring in 2 or 3 maybe 4 players, which we certainly need if we want to stand a good chance, of promotion. I think even the powers to be at Fulham should recognise that.
But then again, they tend to sleep walk far too often for comfort, I sometimes wonder if they invented the word 'coma'. Perhaps I am being too harsh, but that's how I currently see them.
The pattern generally is that the last 7 to 10 days triggers a hive of activity right up until the final seconds, which for Sky Sports is pure theatre.
Nevertheless, what kind of players if any Fulham recruit remains to be seen. It could be anything from Deadwood from a far away League for two Sheep and a goat. A loan signing which will sit on the bench for an eternity. Someone else's throw out.
Or will the club unearth a little Diamond from somewhere for a bargain fee.
Or maybe splash the cash on a player or players that will have that XFactor, and burn the League up.
To do that, the club may need to get the Fat Wallett out again, remove the barbed wire, and security censors, and dust it off.
So the reality is, that Fulham could do anyone of those, or all of them.
We can speculate to the cows come home, but we will know soon enough.
Then we can debate what could be, or what might have been after the window.
But that's another story.


Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Lighthouse on August 10, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
Where there is time there is hope.

Last day of the window rumours of a big signing. With 5 hours to go reports of the big signing plus two others reported at Motspur. Then an hour to go we have confirmation of a loan signing -15 year old midfielder who can play wide and is a replacement for a youth player who has left the club.

30 minutes left and another loan signing. 30 year old who can play left back or right back but has suffered from an injury and needs time to train.

That concludes our business. The big name signing suddenly realised that he wanted to play in Spain and so went off somewhere to hide.

Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: grandad on August 10, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Don't forget that non contract players can be signed any time.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: fulhamben on August 10, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 10, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Don't forget that non contract players can be signed any time.
are there any decent looking ones left out there though?
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on August 10, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 10, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 10, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Don't forget that non contract players can be signed any time.
are there any decent looking ones left out there though?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/vertragslosespieler/wettbewerb/GB1

Ibra? Depening on salary perhaps Kirchhoff as CB.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: filham on August 10, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
I think the players signed so far are squad players and with the exception of Kamara provide no immediate improvement to the starting line up that finished last season. Also we have lost Malone from last season. Therefore to improve on last season's team we really have yet to make a couple of top signings.

Not much seems to be happening at the moment ,it looks as if we are treading water waiting for the rapid skirmishes that usually take place in the last week of the window.
I think last season we picked up our two most expensive buys in this late period, Sigurdsson and Martin.
Hope we do better this time.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: sunburywhite on August 10, 2017, 05:31:17 PM
Still another 3 weeks to go
Don't panic
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: nose on August 10, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on August 10, 2017, 05:31:17 PM
Still another 3 weeks to go
Don't panic

I am panicing just because it is 3 weeks to go.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Luka on August 10, 2017, 06:58:49 PM
Quote from: nose on August 10, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
I think that unless the manager/head coach has a mega rant in public, again, we are probably concluded.

Or am I wrong, do we know that something is imminently about to happen.

Well Slav had a bit of a rant today so we shall see if it makes a difference .....
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: masterhaynes on August 10, 2017, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on August 10, 2017, 10:59:30 AM
'midfield is stronger now than last year'

Sorry I can't agree with this assertion, and whole heartedley agree with Filham 'I think the players signed so far are squad players'. Cairney is not fully fit/carrying minor injury, Cisse is not better than Mcdonald, when McD does eventually play he will need time to get up to speed and match fit.

In terms of cover I would have preferred to have Christensen over Cisse, just look again at quality of LC's goals and assists when he was in full flow, many overlooked value of his frequent covering tackles. I cannot see Cisse covering Johansons role either.

The only improvement is that we now have some sort of cover for Cairney in Norwood but he will not start over a fully fit Cairney.Overall we are weaker than last year at the moment, if Cairney gets over his injury/fitness and Mcdonald stays and performs then we will be as strong as last year if we remain injury free.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: nose on August 10, 2017, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Luka on August 10, 2017, 06:58:49 PM
Quote from: nose on August 10, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
I think that unless the manager/head coach has a mega rant in public, again, we are probably concluded.

Or am I wrong, do we know that something is imminently about to happen.

Well Slav had a bit of a rant today so we shall see if it makes a difference .....

I certainly hope so.
Despite a strange clique on here that always saeem to say black is white, the squad is very very thin save for central midfield and small quick wingers.

I only want the best and we still have an opportunity to be virtually unbeatable in this division but our management seem to not make it so. We should have had a full squad before the s3ason started, that was not a problem with an a,bitious management but they remain so inexperienced thinking you can win based on computer algorithms... it's not possible, i think we will he lucky to make top 8, the norwich game suggested that.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: fulhamben on August 10, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: nose on August 10, 2017, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Luka on August 10, 2017, 06:58:49 PM
Quote from: nose on August 10, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
I think that unless the manager/head coach has a mega rant in public, again, we are probably concluded.

Or am I wrong, do we know that something is imminently about to happen.

Well Slav had a bit of a rant today so we shall see if it makes a difference .....

I certainly hope so.
Despite a strange clique on here that always saeem to say black is white, the squad is very very thin save for central midfield and small quick wingers.

I only want the best and we still have an opportunity to be virtually unbeatable in this division but our management seem to not make it so. We should have had a full squad before the s3ason started, that was not a problem with an a,bitious management but they remain so inexperienced thinking you can win based on computer algorithms... it's not possible, i think we will he lucky to make top 8, the norwich game suggested that.
wouldn't say squad is thin. You might not like certain players but far from thin. 3 goal keepers. 4 CBs 3 full backs with half decent youth backing them up. She'd load of midfield and 2 strikers.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 10, 2017, 10:45:37 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 10, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: nose on August 10, 2017, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Luka on August 10, 2017, 06:58:49 PM
Quote from: nose on August 10, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
I think that unless the manager/head coach has a mega rant in public, again, we are probably concluded.

Or am I wrong, do we know that something is imminently about to happen.

Well Slav had a bit of a rant today so we shall see if it makes a difference .....

I certainly hope so.
Despite a strange clique on here that always saeem to say black is white, the squad is very very thin save for central midfield and small quick wingers.

I only want the best and we still have an opportunity to be virtually unbeatable in this division but our management seem to not make it so. We should have had a full squad before the s3ason started, that was not a problem with an a,bitious management but they remain so inexperienced thinking you can win based on computer algorithms... it's not possible, i think we will he lucky to make top 8, the norwich game suggested that.
wouldn't say squad is thin. You might not like certain players but far from thin. 3 goal keepers. 4 CBs 3 full backs with half decent youth backing them up. She'd load of midfield and 2 strikers.

I do maintain that the squad is too thin to make a serious challenge for promotion. To some observers, it may seem ok to them, but ok will not seal promotion.
There is still time to address that, but the way the club operate I wouldn't rely on them bringing in a player that will at least strengthen the team.
If the club just brings in a loan player or two who are surplus to another clubs requirements to polish the bench. Then forget any thoughts of challenging for an automatic promotion spot.
We need to sign quality players who will sign for a fee, if the club have serious aspirations.
We are currently very vulnerable to an injury problem to key players and key positions especially at the back.
As we stand now, I very much doubt we are strong enough all over the pitch.
We look top half only, certainly no higher than 7th.
It would not surprise me if more players leave the club, than actually sign for us before the end of the window.
If that occurs, then that will invite more questions than answers, and that may in itself set alarm bells ringing that there is a hidden agenda.
Let's hope not, let's hope it's the incoming door swinging to and fro.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: JackHFFC1990 on August 11, 2017, 12:13:33 AM
Nowhere near done I fully expect another striker another CB & a LB to come in before the end of the window
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Andy S on August 11, 2017, 12:53:04 AM
I don't expect anything. That way I won't be disapointed and if anyone joins us a nice surprise. Anyone that believes that the club quakes in their boots and signs players wholesale any time Slav has a rant is diluded. There is a lot more effort put in to signing good players than that as I think should be quite obvious by now
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: NJFulham on August 11, 2017, 01:44:47 AM
squad isn't thin, it's just not huge.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: filham on August 11, 2017, 10:32:50 AM
Quote from: NJFulham on August 11, 2017, 01:44:47 AM
squad isn't thin, it's just not huge.
Right, a couple of top signings ready to walk into the starting line up would be more welcome than four more squad players.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: abfg on August 11, 2017, 10:48:21 AM
We need definitely a left back and a centre forward (as Woodrow appears to be so out of favour) good enough to start games. This has been obvious since Malone left and, well, all of last season as far as the centre forward goes. We are ok for players as the slightly 2 deeper/wider forwards in the 433 (sone, neeskens, floyd and, sigh, Piazon), cm cover seems ok, maybe 1 more squad player needed there. Gk ok, RB ok, CB ok only if Djalo is any good or Madl comes back to some sort of form.

So those two positions are the key, but if we stay the same, not only are we short in certain positions, everyone else will know exactly what to expect of us and exactly how our team will operate. I like consistency but things have to be freshened up or it gets stale. Everyone knows our fullbacks are quick and attacking, and our forwards are tricky and dangerous but can't finish a sandwich. A couple of new players add that unexpected element, especially up top.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Baszab on August 11, 2017, 10:51:10 AM
I have also heard that there will be at least 2 new signings before end of window - but  so late in case we pay over the odds - need to invest to succeed not penny pinch
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: nose on August 11, 2017, 03:05:34 PM
I heard all this last january
we are about to,
we are trying to
I heard such and such
I hope all of you are correct.


I have zero faith. If the management were serious,a nd they are patently not, the squad would be here already. For those that said the squad isn't thin, if we get a normal crop of injuries/suspensions, and that is more probable than less, we will struggle in all areas except central midfield, and even there we really do depend on the golden triangle being in top form throughout.

Baszab, I hope you are right, but do you know what positions do you think they are looking at. IMO we are at least 5 players light if we are seriously going to push for promotion. we do not have that many 1st team standard players that you would want to rely on long  term.
Title: Re: transfer business done?
Post by: Barrett487 on August 11, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Any signings for Prem clubs before the window closes could free off existing squad players for loans, or permanent moves. I reckon we my get a couple on the last day.