Aluko is active and pacey, creates lots of chances but absolutely does not have the knack for finishing. Johanson created lots of lovely through balls v. Leeds. we need someone on the other end of those to make that one heady touch to create space for the finishing shot. i fear that player is not Aluko..
Quote from: JOND999 on August 16, 2017, 07:35:56 PM
Aluko is active and pacey, creates lots of chances but absolutely does not have the knack for finishing. Johanson created lots of lovely through balls v. Leeds. we need someone on the other end of those to make that one heady touch to create space for the finishing shot. i fear that player is not Aluko..
I still think he could move into central midfield - similar to old Dembele. Couldn't hit a barn door but could create space and drive at defences.
Quote from: Milo on August 16, 2017, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: JOND999 on August 16, 2017, 07:35:56 PM
Aluko is active and pacey, creates lots of chances but absolutely does not have the knack for finishing. Johanson created lots of lovely through balls v. Leeds. we need someone on the other end of those to make that one heady touch to create space for the finishing shot. i fear that player is not Aluko..
I still think he could move into central midfield - similar to old Dembele. Couldn't hit a barn door but could create space and drive at defences.
I don't think Aluko has the physique and the height to play at CM.
For the right money I wouldn't be against selling him for someone with end product. As exciting and skilful as he is the lack of goals or final balls really affects our ability to turn 1 point into 3.
He's very entertaining but imo he does flatter to deceive a lot of the time
Dont agree on this one .If Aluko scored loads of goals he would at top premiership club. Nonetheless he puts the fear of god into defences and is always the outlet that other players look for when under pressure,as they all know tha he is not going to lose the ball too often and usually does something creative. He still scored 11 goals last season if Im not mistaken and where are we going to get another player like him?
Madnees to even think of selling him IMO, and thats without mentioning his work-rate and how many times he wins the ball back for us. Every team needs someone who can takes players on regularly,freeing up space for others and occupying 2 defenders at a time. It would be a terrible piece of business to sell him for the energy he gives to the side alone !!!
Sone Aluko's talent, technique and ball skills are unquestionable, and I don't think we will ever understand why his final touch sometimes goes awry. He also has a very talented sister who is currently in the media after being paid a big sum of hush money by the FA over allegations of racism and bullying involving England Women's coach Mark Sampson which she is free to air since the European football tournament has now ended.
So, if reports are to he believed, we have SA's services locked until the end of next season for wages that are below what he could expect if he were on the market. He wants more money, the club sees no reason to pay him more. He must be worried that a bad injury will mean the club don't extend and his income could end this summer. That's a reasonable thing for him to be concerned about.
So the underlying driver is that SA has turned out to be better than he and the club expected him to be. The club holds all the cards and agitating is his/his agents only available path. Nice problems to have are still problems needing a solution. An unhappy footballer tends not to produce his best form, so I can see this ending up with a transfer and a replacement arriving in the last week before the deadline. I'm not sure the Khans look too kindly on actions the press describe as an "ultimatum". Didn't work out too well for Chris Martin (who by going on strike was behaving far worse than SA's cryptic tweets)
Good player, can see why the manager wants him kept at the club. This one seems entirely about business.
For me his quick feet and ability to take on opponents make him a stand-out player for us. No defence likes playing him, and the attention he commands also means that others are given a bit less .. so I think his all-round contribution last season helped with the fact we had so many different players getting on the score sheet. Would be a big loss. This stuff about not giving him a contract of a decent length because he is 28 is a joke.
SA is contracted for this year and an option ( the clubs option only I think ) for another year . So the club holds the cards .
Great and exciting player but a horrible finisher . Wide in the forward 3 we have options .
Would like him to stay and play well .
But then someone mentions a £8mn fee and then I wonder .....
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I really like Aluko, his attitude, skill, strength, and speed scare opponents. Crazy as it is, his problem is he is not very good at kicking a football. We have Kebano, Ayite, Sess, Oyo and even AK47 who all play a similar position and if offered very good money I would totally understand Fulham cashing in. I think only 2 of the above will start most games so we really do not need 6 similar players in his position.
He has also(as much as I like him) been hot in his first season for his clubs,and then seems to go off the boil.
I hope its not like that here,when he was at Aberdeen he actually scored a cracker against Bayern Munich in European tie, then his form went downhill was benched and then moved on...Strange case is our Sone..Coyw
Quote from: Statto on August 17, 2017, 10:15:42 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on August 17, 2017, 08:49:53 AM
This stuff about not giving him a contract of a decent length because he is 28 is a joke.
So do you give him a 4 or 5 year contract knowing full well that with his style and play and injury record, he'll probably be as useful as a chocolate fireplace for the second half of that period? Not to mention, our aim is to be in the Premiership then, a level he's not currently good enough for and given his age, almost certainly never will be.
IMO you cannot commercially justify giving him anything longer than 1 or 2 yrs from now.
However if the issue is his salary, rather than term, I sympathise entirely. He should be one of our top earners, at least double whatever Sessegnon is on and almost as much as Cairney.
There are few 5 year contracts, and I think most are 3 years. Aluko's injury record is a different issue, but apparently we have a club policy that now does not want to offer longer term contracts to anyone aged over 28. Murphy joined us at 31 I think, and look how good he was for us. The point is that age is not necessarily the determiner.
Specific to Aluko - are you talking about the injury record that meant he played nearly every game last season? 46 or 47 appearances? More, I think, than any other player with possibly the exception of Tom Cearney who would only have played one or two games more. Or are you referring to historic injuries that are likely to recur?
I think we are in an astonishing position if we can debate whether to keep him or not.
Just goes to show how a window can impact who the "must keep players" are.
Quote from: Whitesideup on August 17, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 17, 2017, 10:15:42 AM
Quote from: Whitesideup on August 17, 2017, 08:49:53 AM
This stuff about not giving him a contract of a decent length because he is 28 is a joke.
So do you give him a 4 or 5 year contract knowing full well that with his style and play and injury record, he'll probably be as useful as a chocolate fireplace for the second half of that period? Not to mention, our aim is to be in the Premiership then, a level he's not currently good enough for and given his age, almost certainly never will be.
IMO you cannot commercially justify giving him anything longer than 1 or 2 yrs from now.
However if the issue is his salary, rather than term, I sympathise entirely. He should be one of our top earners, at least double whatever Sessegnon is on and almost as much as Cairney.
There are few 5 year contracts, and I think most are 3 years. Aluko's injury record is a different issue, but apparently we have a club policy that now does not want to offer longer term contracts to anyone aged over 28. Murphy joined us at 31 I think, and look how good he was for us. The point is that age is not necessarily the determiner.
Specific to Aluko - are you talking about the injury record that meant he played nearly every game last season? 46 or 47 appearances? More, I think, than any other player with possibly the exception of Tom Cearney who would only have played one or two games more. Or are you referring to historic injuries that are likely to recur?
Agree but there is a major difference how age affects players depending on which position they play. Wingers generally relies on their pace and stamina, quick feet and all that, which tends to decline quite a bit once you turn 30.
Ryan Giggs is a great example of a player who at one point in his career was a really speedy and tricky winger but then as he grew older, he started playing in a more central role on the pitch as he just wasnt as quick as he used to anymore. Because of this, he managed to extend his career by quite a lot.
So an older CM like Murphy will always get by a bit longer than an older winger like Aluko.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 17, 2017, 05:45:58 AM
For the right money I wouldn't be against selling him for someone with end product. As exciting and skilful as he is the lack of goals or final balls really affects our ability to turn 1 point into 3.
He's very entertaining but imo he does flatter to deceive a lot of the time
Couldn't agree more. The goal needs to be twice the size for him to get the goals he should
be getting.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 17, 2017, 05:45:58 AM
For the right money I wouldn't be against selling him for someone with end product. As exciting and skilful as he is the lack of goals or final balls really affects our ability to turn 1 point into 3.
He's very entertaining but imo he does flatter to deceive a lot of the time
I reckon that, if he's asked for a new contract he either wants a guarantee about getting first-team football, or he knows that we need to sell to satisfy ffp and doesn't want it to be him.
If there's any truth in the rumour that Reading (or anybody else for that matter) has offered anywhere near £8 million for Aluko FFC ought to bite their hand off. That amount for a player acquired on a free a year ago who can't finish and who endlessly runs into dead ends? We should ship him out asap for 20% of that if offered. He currently keeps out one or other of Kebano or Ayite (assuming Fonte plays). Both Kebano and Ayite offer so much more both in front of goal and as part of a team.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on August 17, 2017, 05:45:58 AM
For the right money I wouldn't be against selling him for someone with end product. As exciting and skilful as he is the lack of goals or final balls really affects our ability to turn 1 point into 3.
He's very entertaining but imo he does flatter to deceive a lot of the time
Tend to agree, absolutely no end product to Aluko's game. Watching him is both exciting and disappointing at the same time. Really hope Ojo is not out of the same mould!!
I love watching Aluko and would hate to see him go. We are very oversubscribed in his position so it's very plausible that he may be sold but I really think a few are underestimating how a player who can beat three or four players can be. If we do as we hope and dominate possession and teams sit back against us nobody in our squad can do what he can as well as he can.
Quote from: Mullers OG on August 17, 2017, 07:10:58 PM
If there's any truth in the rumour that Reading (or anybody else for that matter) has offered anywhere near £8 million for Aluko FFC ought to bite their hand off. That amount for a player acquired on a free a year ago who can't finish and who endlessly runs into dead ends? We should ship him out asap for 20% of that if offered. He currently keeps out one or other of Kebano or Ayite (assuming Fonte plays). Both Kebano and Ayite offer so much more both in front of goal and as part of a team.
Absolutely, it's free money basically. Why anyone would pay that much is beyond me though
I wouldn't want to see him go to one of our rivals for promotion.
There are oceans of data from these very threads about 'what Martin brings to the table' from last season and what did he actually achieve? Were we better with him than without him? We will never know what a difference a good striker playing at one hundred percent for Fulham would have brought us. I believe the same arguments should pertain to SA. Does he strengthen us or weaken us? I believe he adds value and I don't believe we should underestimate that value.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 18, 2017, 09:54:31 AM
There are oceans of data from these very threads about 'what Martin brings to the table' from last season and what did he actually achieve? Were we better with him than without him? We will never know what a difference a good striker playing at one hundred percent for Fulham would have brought us. I believe the same arguments should pertain to SA. Does he strengthen us or weaken us? I believe he adds value and I don't believe we should underestimate that value.
I agree with you about Aluko.
As for Martin, I am erasing him from my memory.
For me he goes in the cupboard marked, "Very Disappointing".
Quote from: toshes mate on August 18, 2017, 09:54:31 AM
There are oceans of data from these very threads about 'what Martin brings to the table' from last season and what did he actually achieve? Were we better with him than without him? We will never know what a difference a good striker playing at one hundred percent for Fulham would have brought us. I believe the same arguments should pertain to SA. Does he strengthen us or weaken us? I believe he adds value and I don't believe we should underestimate that value.
He has atributes that add for sure, but if he was asking for say an extra 3 years at another 10k a week are they worth that?
Quote from: westcliff white on August 18, 2017, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on August 18, 2017, 09:54:31 AM
There are oceans of data from these very threads about 'what Martin brings to the table' from last season and what did he actually achieve? Were we better with him than without him? We will never know what a difference a good striker playing at one hundred percent for Fulham would have brought us. I believe the same arguments should pertain to SA. Does he strengthen us or weaken us? I believe he adds value and I don't believe we should underestimate that value.
He has atributes that add for sure, but if he was asking for say an extra 3 years at another 10k a week are they worth that?
I guess if he helps to bring us promotion to the PL he has earned the requested bonus and, perhaps, more. Problem is do we settle what we may owe him now or wait until after the event. Who'd be the one who has to sort out all the pro's and con's but, if it were down to me, I'd give him a worthwhile incentive to hit the back of net ten times this season.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 18, 2017, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: westcliff white on August 18, 2017, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on August 18, 2017, 09:54:31 AM
There are oceans of data from these very threads about 'what Martin brings to the table' from last season and what did he actually achieve? Were we better with him than without him? We will never know what a difference a good striker playing at one hundred percent for Fulham would have brought us. I believe the same arguments should pertain to SA. Does he strengthen us or weaken us? I believe he adds value and I don't believe we should underestimate that value.
He has atributes that add for sure, but if he was asking for say an extra 3 years at another 10k a week are they worth that?
I guess if he helps to bring us promotion to the PL he has earned the requested bonus and, perhaps, more. Problem is do we settle what we may owe him now or wait until after the event. Who'd be the one who has to sort out all the pro's and con's but, if it were down to me, I'd give him a worthwhile incentive to hit the back of net ten times this season.
It is a tough call i agree. For me he has to improve his crossing and finishing to get an extra 10k per week, and at his age probably wont happen. But then if he had allthat he would not be with us. I cant help but believe some of his unsettledness (is that a word?) is down to his agent and a;lso Stams comments
I agree with you WW, simply because SJ is a hard taskmaster as we are getting to know. Clearly SA has been around long enough to know the signals on the training ground and may have repeating doubts about the final pieces of making his performances too good to ignore, which is a shame because I don't see Reading as a step up for anybody.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 18, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
I agree with you WW, simply because SJ is a hard taskmaster as we are getting to know. Clearly SA has been around long enough to know the signals on the training ground and may have repeating doubts about the final pieces of making his performances too good to ignore, which is a shame because I don't see Reading as a step up for anybody.
neither do I thats a backwards step form us for sure, they dont play the way he suits depsite what Stam says
You cant blame a player for trying to secure his future by negotiating an improved contract in time and salary.
I'm wiling to accept his overall performance brings benefits to the team beyond is inability to score and cross the ball better, he's always available and works tirelessly off the ball, I also think his personality and approach to games is an important plus to teamwork and morale.
I would hope there's some flexibility on both sides to keep him with us and everyone happy but as free agent when he signed for us I can't imagine he didn't have other offers and therefore used them to get a good deal, such as big signing on fee etc.
It looks like he's a good senior pro to have around the team and for that alone it would be a shame to lo :blow candles:se him but if push come to shove he has no right to expect an upgrade just because the likes of TC got one.
Aluko is a very good player for us. Dribbling, speed and effort outclass every winger we have. However finishing isn't his strong point, and he is at his latter end of his career.
We have Ayite, Kebano, Ojo, Sessegnon and Kamara to cover the wings. Maybe selling Aluko in order to invest in other positions would be good business. He is a high earner and we could easily get £5m for him.
Be a shame to see him go, but he has the right to protect his career. Had a fantastic year with him, what will be, will be.
Aluko is a sticky decision. He does bring that ability to break a defense with his skill and we have not had a player since the Dems were around that could. There's a lot of value in what he brings on the pitch. He's never been criticized over his commitment or effort - qualities that aren't quantifiable but that matter greatly. He does have issues with finishing but, still scored around double digits last season. That's a lot of contribution to the cause.
On the other hand, he's dead in the middle of his prime years. He's on a contract for one more season + club option which, along with his performance last season likely means he is at his peak value right now. I don't know his current wage but, I'd have a difficult time arguing that there isn't some argument for a raise and more security with a new deal. If the club need the funds because of the number of signings they've made and the number the need to make, it seems likely that we need to sell someone that is sought after and valuable to us. If we don't agree that he's worth the wage that he wants, then we have to judge when is the right time to sell what is now a player whose value on the open market is on the decline. Clubs would know he is discontented and would use that against us. Plus the longer we wait, the older he gets, the shorter his contract gets.
I don't want to sell him and certainly don't want a 20 yr old with no experience in Slavisa's system taking on his responsibilities. But, if the right offer comes along and ffp obligations require that we sell in order to pay for the players we are bringing in, then I will not be angry with the club. I'm sure that Slavisa will be angry, as he's said that it would be foolish to sell Sone. But, I also note that Slavisa has stopped short of arguing that the player is worth more than he is making.
Lots of good points on here. Pro's an cons?
Pro:
Works hard
Great at running at and beyond a defender
Created an enormous amount of scoring opportunity for himself and those around him
relatively reasonable wages (only known from other commentary, not itk)
at 28, in his prime
Cons:
We have 8 players (Aluko, Kebano, Sess, Ayite, AK-47, Piazon, Ojo, Fonte) that can fill the three top positions. Williams, De la Torre and Humphrys also in the wings
Last year we got him on a free, this year we could get $5MM+ for him
He doesn't contribute as much to team play as he should (too much head down play, hardly looks for the pass and plays a more hope and pray model)
Many of the opportunities that he creates in 1v1 situations are wasted
He wants more money.
Capture the story?
With FFP to consider, and our increasing size of our squad, players like Aluko are able to be sold at a profit and are not absolutely necessary for a promotion push. I think of Malone when I use this commentary. He was essentially "bought" on a free because Jazz Richards was sub par. We cashed in there, I'm sure with FFP and smart business in mind. With Ojo coming on board, our ability to keep all wingers happy is getting harder and harder. I've heard nothing but "settled" behaviour from Kebano, Sess, Ayite, Piazon. Ojo, Fonte and AK47 are new. Aluko has used some interesting language on twitter and is obviously pushing for something more.
Sell for $5MM+, but only if all money is reinvested into squad that pushes us to FFP limit. This could be the difference between a starting CB/GK that we need.
Quote from: Porthogs FC on August 18, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Lots of good points on here. Pro's an cons?
Pro:
Works hard
Great at running at and beyond a defender
Created an enormous amount of scoring opportunity for himself and those around him
relatively reasonable wages (only known from other commentary, not itk)
at 28, in his prime
Cons:
We have 8 players (Aluko, Kebano, Sess, Ayite, AK-47, Piazon, Ojo, Fonte) that can fill the three top positions. Williams, De la Torre and Humphrys also in the wings
Last year we got him on a free, this year we could get $5MM+ for him
He doesn't contribute as much to team play as he should (too much head down play, hardly looks for the pass and plays a more hope and pray model)
Many of the opportunities that he creates in 1v1 situations are wasted
He wants more money.
Capture the story?
With FFP to consider, and our increasing size of our squad, players like Aluko are able to be sold at a profit and are not absolutely necessary for a promotion push. I think of Malone when I use this commentary. He was essentially "bought" on a free because Jazz Richards was sub par. We cashed in there, I'm sure with FFP and smart business in mind. With Ojo coming on board, our ability to keep all wingers happy is getting harder and harder. I've heard nothing but "settled" behaviour from Kebano, Sess, Ayite, Piazon. Ojo, Fonte and AK47 are new. Aluko has used some interesting language on twitter and is obviously pushing for something more.
Sell for $5MM+, but only if all money is reinvested into squad that pushes us to FFP limit. This could be the difference between a starting CB/GK that we need.
I very much agree with you, the big issue is Slav's fondness for him. If he goes, Slav will be pissed off to say the least.
Quote from: AlexW132 on August 18, 2017, 05:31:49 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on August 18, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Lots of good points on here. Pro's an cons?
Pro:
Works hard
Great at running at and beyond a defender
Created an enormous amount of scoring opportunity for himself and those around him
relatively reasonable wages (only known from other commentary, not itk)
at 28, in his prime
Cons:
We have 8 players (Aluko, Kebano, Sess, Ayite, AK-47, Piazon, Ojo, Fonte) that can fill the three top positions. Williams, De la Torre and Humphrys also in the wings
Last year we got him on a free, this year we could get $5MM+ for him
He doesn't contribute as much to team play as he should (too much head down play, hardly looks for the pass and plays a more hope and pray model)
Many of the opportunities that he creates in 1v1 situations are wasted
He wants more money.
Capture the story?
With FFP to consider, and our increasing size of our squad, players like Aluko are able to be sold at a profit and are not absolutely necessary for a promotion push. I think of Malone when I use this commentary. He was essentially "bought" on a free because Jazz Richards was sub par. We cashed in there, I'm sure with FFP and smart business in mind. With Ojo coming on board, our ability to keep all wingers happy is getting harder and harder. I've heard nothing but "settled" behaviour from Kebano, Sess, Ayite, Piazon. Ojo, Fonte and AK47 are new. Aluko has used some interesting language on twitter and is obviously pushing for something more.
Sell for $5MM+, but only if all money is reinvested into squad that pushes us to FFP limit. This could be the difference between a starting CB/GK that we need.
I very much agree with you, the big issue is Slav's fondness for him. If he goes, Slav will be pissed off to say the least.
If he goes, Slav will have to reserve some of his ire for Sone. It's appears likely that Sone is the one forcing the situation, not the club. He's obviously within his rights to secure the best deal possible but, the club is equally within its rights standing by the existing deal. And if they see their asset devaluing himself by creating a bad situation within the organization, then I support them selling high rather than let a little bit of rot potentially turn into something bigger and far more damaging to their promotion aims. Slav may not like it but he'll need to understand it and get on with the season.
I will say that it's difficult to get a read on things. Slav made him interim captain. Is that to show the club how much he values Sone? Or is there just really no trouble at all and Sone is just 2nd in line for that responsibility?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on August 18, 2017, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: AlexW132 on August 18, 2017, 05:31:49 PM
Quote from: Porthogs FC on August 18, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Lots of good points on here. Pro's an cons?
Pro:
Works hard
Great at running at and beyond a defender
Created an enormous amount of scoring opportunity for himself and those around him
relatively reasonable wages (only known from other commentary, not itk)
at 28, in his prime
Cons:
We have 8 players (Aluko, Kebano, Sess, Ayite, AK-47, Piazon, Ojo, Fonte) that can fill the three top positions. Williams, De la Torre and Humphrys also in the wings
Last year we got him on a free, this year we could get $5MM+ for him
He doesn't contribute as much to team play as he should (too much head down play, hardly looks for the pass and plays a more hope and pray model)
Many of the opportunities that he creates in 1v1 situations are wasted
He wants more money.
Capture the story?
With FFP to consider, and our increasing size of our squad, players like Aluko are able to be sold at a profit and are not absolutely necessary for a promotion push. I think of Malone when I use this commentary. He was essentially "bought" on a free because Jazz Richards was sub par. We cashed in there, I'm sure with FFP and smart business in mind. With Ojo coming on board, our ability to keep all wingers happy is getting harder and harder. I've heard nothing but "settled" behaviour from Kebano, Sess, Ayite, Piazon. Ojo, Fonte and AK47 are new. Aluko has used some interesting language on twitter and is obviously pushing for something more.
Sell for $5MM+, but only if all money is reinvested into squad that pushes us to FFP limit. This could be the difference between a starting CB/GK that we need.
I very much agree with you, the big issue is Slav's fondness for him. If he goes, Slav will be pissed off to say the least.
If he goes, Slav will have to reserve some of his ire for Sone. It's appears likely that Sone is the one forcing the situation, not the club. He's obviously within his rights to secure the best deal possible but, the club is equally within its rights standing by the existing deal. And if they see their asset devaluing himself by creating a bad situation within the organization, then I support them selling high rather than let a little bit of rot potentially turn into something bigger and far more damaging to their promotion aims. Slav may not like it but he'll need to understand it and get on with the season.
I will say that it's difficult to get a read on things. Slav made him interim captain. Is that to show the club how much he values Sone? Or is there just really no trouble at all and Sone is just 2nd in line for that responsibility?
At this point, I think Slav will be happy either way. He see's the club truly putting money into players, I for one don't care about loans or permanents. He, I think, will also be more interested in overall quality of squad, not necessarily if they're permanent or not.
Knowing that we still have almost 2 weeks to work with, to find 1 - 4 new players (if I'm greedy, GK, LB, CB, CF), we can still afford to loose 1 - 4 players if that all happens. Sone, Madl, Bett's or Butt's will all go if we can find mostly like for like replacements. Except for Sone, I think we look for another CF to replace him if we replace him at all. He might go without anyone incoming, and we use those funds for better quality elsewhere (CB, GK). We've left #5 open still, so that should indicate another starting CB to come in. Also, if we switch to 3 - 5 - 2 formation (which could be done with another quality CB), Sone can for sure be sold.
Lots to think about
A lot of good points on this page. Personally I think SA makes a lot of contributions off the ball as well as on the ball and his knowledge of the game must be worth oodles to the younger and less experienced lads in the squad in training sessions etc. I'd like to keep him because there are certain things that you just cannot measure via money.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 19, 2017, 08:31:45 AM
A lot of good points on this page. Personally I think SA makes a lot of contributions off the ball as well as on the ball and his knowledge of the game must be worth oodles to the younger and less experienced lads in the squad in training sessions etc. I'd like to keep him because there are certain things that you just cannot measure via money.
I'm with you 100%
Sadly Aluko didn't do much to convince he deserved a new contract today . Was his mind elsewhere ?
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Quote from: Statto on August 19, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Riverside on August 19, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Sadly Aluko didn't do much to convince he deserved a new contract today . Was his mind elsewhere ?
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That's an understatement. He did nothing at all, and couldn't even take 2 chances that other players put on a plate for him. We just cannot be that profligate, need to get rid quick.
He was dross today. I lost count of how many times he lost the ball after dribbling into trouble.
Honestly, I would just let him go to Reading or whoever else that will pay a decent wedge for him. His end product, especially in front of goal is none existent.
I was amazed he appeared out at the start of the second half today. He looked totally disinterested & was easily run off the ball or just lent on
Mustn't start another game until his issues are sorted, we had enough of that nonsense with a certain Mr Martin last season.
Quote from: FFC73 on August 19, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
I was amazed he appeared out at the start of the second half today. He looked totally disinterested & was easily run off the ball or just lent on
Yep,absolute tosh.
attitude,bad attitude that was sone today.
Clearly SA is unsettled and he didn't seem to be alone in that. Fulham look a troubled Club right now.
Quote from: toshes mate on August 20, 2017, 08:40:26 AM
Clearly SA is unsettled and he didn't seem to be alone in that. Fulham look a troubled Club right now.
Surely the manager knows what's going on with Sone,yet still plays him...Manager got a few things wrong yesterday, playing an unfit Cairney,not bringing the Liverpool kid on.
Aluko OUT. harsh to say b/c he seems like a nice lad, works hard and creates havoc. but we need quality in the box when the scoring moment arrives and that's just not him. maybe he could become a winger or something, i don't know.
but he had two solid chances against Wednesday that he botched
- the header that he popped over the bar when a heady player (like Berbatov) might have chested the ball to his feet and punched it home
- the volley that he whiffed. again, patience leads to quality. it's so hard to keep your wits about you when the chances come but the prem quality forwards have it. and we need it, that is if we really have prem league aspirations.
get what you can for Sone, wish the chap well, thank him for his service, and open the wallet for a quality finisher....
