I was very impressed with Matt O'Riley on Tuesday, very assured performance, great range of passing, good on the ball. Though he tired in the second half but he never hid and he is only sixteen. Go away Spurs, Liverpool and Man U.
Yes, clearly a great prospect for Fulham FC. I have also been impressed with his application, technique and his vision, and he looks over 6 feet tall already.
Let's hope the club can keep any circling vultures away.
Me too , I thought he looked pretty calm in a frantic match. And I didn't know he was only 16.
He made almost no mistakes and did the simple thing.yes keep the predators away
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Sub's bench at a few championship games?
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
You've not a clue then, sorry
The lad is SIXTEEN. Every time I've seen him he has look composed and good on the ball. Other top clubs around the country seem to think so too
I'm with you there Peabody. Looks class. Very comfortable when in possession. Bog off big clubs.
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He is very clearly an outstanding prospect and to be selected in a midfield 3 shows how high the club and Slav think of him. He is clearly a fine passer of the ball and will be a tall lad which should help him, esp Ina team of Fulham short arses.
Personally whilst he did some good things, I thought the game passed him by on Tuesday and he is not yet ready for 1st team football which at 16 years old you would expect. Thought Edun was the best of the kids and in Djalo and Kamara you can see promise although again a lot of work required to get them to the level they need to be at. I was dissapointed with Ojo who I thought coasted through the game and hardly broke sweat. His run towards the end shows what he is capable of, hope he does not think he is above that standard as effort and enthusiasm are just as important as ability.
Tuesday was a team of new players rather thrown together and we lacked the gile to break down a 10 man defence. Good experience however for ORiley, Sess and Edun all who will have a very bright future I am sure.
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
Mark Fotheringham. He was the worst player since Burgess. Burgess wasn't even that bad, Magath shouldn't have played him. Your comment is dumb.
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 24, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
You've not a clue then, sorry
The lad is SIXTEEN. Every time I've seen him he has look composed and good on the ball. Other top clubs around the country seem to think so too
You having an alternative opinion does not render me clueless.
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 24, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
You've not a clue then, sorry
The lad is SIXTEEN. Every time I've seen him he has look composed and good on the ball. Other top clubs around the country seem to think so too
You having an alternative opinion does not render me clueless.
I think when it's nonsense it does
Yh Fotheringham worst player I've seen play for Fulham in the last 5 years.
For what it's worth, my view of him is that he's pretty decent for 16 without being anything too exciting. His playing style reminded me a bit of Cairney and a bit of Jack Wilshere. Very heavily left-footed, looking for the incisive pass, but I felt he was too slow in releasing the ball most of the time. Not ready for the first team, but showed potential.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 24, 2017, 09:34:40 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
Mark Fotheringham. He was the worst player since Burgess. Burgess wasn't even that bad, Magath shouldn't have played him. Your comment is dumb.
Fotheringham and Burgess have got to be there for 2 of the worst starting performances of recent years. That period was catastrophic, we're lucky to have recovered, without the academy and the strength that's given us on the pitch and financially too I think we'd be in league 1.
Can I ask what Burgess and Fotheringham have got to do with O'Rileys performance on Tuesday evening?
Quote from: Peabody on August 25, 2017, 10:00:06 AM
Can I ask what Burgess and Fotheringham have got to do with O'Rileys performance on Tuesday evening?
Nothing. Somebody said that O'Riley's performance was the worst since Burgess and i pointed out that it's wrong as Fotheringham was worse. Stupid initial response which received a piffy answer. Going back to the OP, O'Riley could do with going back to his age group for now with maybe a few bench appearances later in the season depending how we a re getting on. There's something there but incredibly raw. He is definitely in the next generation behind DLT, Edun, Sess(x2), Adeniran etc and we need to see what they can achieve first .
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 25, 2017, 10:14:45 AM
Quote from: Peabody on August 25, 2017, 10:00:06 AM
Can I ask what Burgess and Fotheringham have got to do with O'Rileys performance on Tuesday evening?
Nothing. Somebody said that O'Riley's performance was the worst since Burgess and i pointed out that it's wrong as Fotheringham was worse. Stupid initial response which received a piffy answer. Going back to the OP, O'Riley could do with going back to his age group for now with maybe a few bench appearances later in the season depending how we a re getting on. There's something there but incredibly raw. He is definitely in the next generation behind DLT, Edun, Sess(x2), Adeniran etc and we need to see what they can achieve first .
On that note, I didn't see anything exciting from Steven Sessegnon either. He's clearly some way behind his brother in development (which is harsh, as they are separate people and should be judged on their own merits and not constantly compared). One of the failings of the team on Tues was not getting behind the fullback. There were too many times when the overlapping full back cut inside to play the ball back into the midfield area instead of getting the ball in the box, and SS was the main offender.
Quote from: bencher on August 25, 2017, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 25, 2017, 10:14:45 AM
Quote from: Peabody on August 25, 2017, 10:00:06 AM
Can I ask what Burgess and Fotheringham have got to do with O'Rileys performance on Tuesday evening?
Nothing. Somebody said that O'Riley's performance was the worst since Burgess and i pointed out that it's wrong as Fotheringham was worse. Stupid initial response which received a piffy answer. Going back to the OP, O'Riley could do with going back to his age group for now with maybe a few bench appearances later in the season depending how we a re getting on. There's something there but incredibly raw. He is definitely in the next generation behind DLT, Edun, Sess(x2), Adeniran etc and we need to see what they can achieve first .
On that note, I didn't see anything exciting from Steven Sessegnon either. He's clearly some way behind his brother in development (which is harsh, as they are separate people and should be judged on their own merits and not constantly compared). One of the failings of the team on Tues was not getting behind the fullback. There were too many times when the overlapping full back cut inside to play the ball back into the midfield area instead of getting the ball in the box, and SS was the main offender.
SS has been out injured and is coming back so it's a bit harsh to judge him in that way. My contact at the club suggested that SS was thought off higher when they both joined so certainly can get get there. Tuesday was a bad night but it's great to see so many youngsters playing and coming through.
Perhaps if I had praised Arthur Stevens for his performances for us, they would have had difficulty in hijacking the thread!!, anyway, I still think that Matt O'Riley showed great maturity and for the first 70 minutes showed a great range of passing ability.
Quote from: Peabody on August 25, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
I still think that Matt O'Riley showed great maturity and for the first 70 minutes showed a great range of passing ability.
I heartily agree. At half time we were reckoning him our best player on the night, admittedly not the highest praise but still notable in a 16 y/o. A class act.
I shall look forward to watching Matt O'Riley in his next appearance.
Quote from: bencher on August 25, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
For what it's worth, my view of him is that he's pretty decent for 16 without being anything too exciting. His playing style reminded me a bit of Cairney and a bit of Jack Wilshere. Very heavily left-footed, looking for the incisive pass, but I felt he was too slow in releasing the ball most of the time. Not ready for the first team, but showed potential.
I can agree with this, was a bit too pedestrian for my liking but being only 16 he has a lot to learn in a dynamic midfield like ours. Reminded me a bit of Hyndman but as he is taller should allow him to develop more and be more of a presence.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 24, 2017, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on August 24, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 24, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Im sorry but I literally couldn't disagree more. I thought he looked a total shambles physically weak and little to no ability on the ball. Also thought he was dreadful at Wycombe and right to get him off eventually (I was at both games). Worst player ive seen for us since Cameron Burgess!
Just goes to show though, Football a game of opinions huh.
You've not a clue then, sorry
The lad is SIXTEEN. Every time I've seen him he has look composed and good on the ball. Other top clubs around the country seem to think so too
You having an alternative opinion does not render me clueless.
I think when it's nonsense it does
You come across as a five year old does Marcel. Can you not stomach hearing alternative opinions? Is there a reason for that? Get to some more games son.
He did OK for someone of his age, but without showing a glimpse of anything exceptional. I hope the experience helped him to continue his development. Let's not jump to conclusions (negative or positive) at this stage of his career.
This will be an interesting one to look back on. Both on this board and elsewhere opinions have ranged from highly enthusiastic to highly un-, with some sensibly in between, as Plodder just now. Sensible, but (in the opinion of some of us) imperceptive in missing "a glimpse of anything exceptional." Time will tell, injuries permitting.
There are few certainties or near certainties in football or life, but here, I submit are three:
Every single player on the pitch has been an aspiring and unproven young hopeful given a break
If young players don't feature in some games, hope and motivation ebb away from an academy
Young players will have games where their deficiencies get shown up
Used to watch Aussie Rules. Generally the three subs would include on or more junior players. If things weren't going well for my team, it was just a matter of time before a grizzled Aussie veteran in the crowd would shout the following "give the young bloke a go". Wise words and I tend to think it's better to err on the side of too much youth involvement for the good of the club. Surely all we can do is cheer them on and hope they excel.
