I haven't been keeping track of the comings and goings elsewhere, so have no idea who has strengthened their squads and who we need to beware of.
Was going to do a thread later on this where we can put all the teams into 3 options. Might aswell make it here.
Wolves good window
Brentford bad window
Us wait and see, (IMO)
Birmingham good window
Everest windows are pretty good
It has to be a good window for us. You never get everything you need and in Kalas and Fonte we have filled our most important areas with very good players. The loans are exciting and could result in an excellent window.
Quote from: FulhamStu on September 01, 2017, 07:41:34 AM
It has to be a good window for us. You never get everything you need and in Kalas and Fonte we have filled our most important areas with very good players. The loans are exciting and could result in an excellent window.
think it's too hard to judge for us. As imo to proclaim that we have had a good window, means that we are better than last year. And the only way we will know if we are better than last year, is if we finishes 5th or above. Anything else would be standing still or regressing
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2017, 07:58:28 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on September 01, 2017, 07:41:34 AM
It has to be a good window for us. You never get everything you need and in Kalas and Fonte we have filled our most important areas with very good players. The loans are exciting and could result in an excellent window.
think it's too hard to judge for us. As imo to proclaim that we have had a good window, means that we are better than last year. And the only way we will know if we are better than last year, is if we finishes 5th or above. Anything else would be standing still or regressing
This. So much this. I get the feeling many of our fans considered last season a success, we achieved what was expected of us, which was to make the play offs, and even then we scraped it.
To claim we've had a good window would be to claim we can make automatic promotion.
Quote from: Chutney on September 01, 2017, 08:01:33 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2017, 07:58:28 AM
Quote from: FulhamStu on September 01, 2017, 07:41:34 AM
It has to be a good window for us. You never get everything you need and in Kalas and Fonte we have filled our most important areas with very good players. The loans are exciting and could result in an excellent window.
think it's too hard to judge for us. As imo to proclaim that we have had a good window, means that we are better than last year. And the only way we will know if we are better than last year, is if we finishes 5th or above. Anything else would be standing still or regressing
This. So much this. I get the feeling many of our fans considered last season a success, we achieved what was expected of us, which was to make the play offs, and even then we scraped it.
To claim we've had a good window would be to claim we can make automatic promotion.
I didn't know what to expect last season tbh as I did not know all the new players or how they would play, so thought maybe a top ten finish. To then make the Play Off's just, was great.
This season is a difficult one to call to because the Championship is tough and a lot of teams on their day can beat anyone but I'm hoping for top 6.
The team would have gelled more and the newbies will hopefully get up to speed with the way we play. As Joka says , last season is behind us and one game at a time.
Chutney I think you have been a tad harsh stating that just season we achieved the minimum by reaching the playoffs. I know your logic from your other posts but don't quite agree.
But this window has been underwhelming, we spent nothing, failed to back a great manager and failed to reinforce the back four, especially at CB.
Wolves spent 30 million. Doesn't always mean much but they must be pleased. Birmingham after shouting they had no money and were in trouble suddenly had money to burn. As all great managers, the Birmingham manager has learned that spending big and putting clubs in debt is the only way to prove just how good you are.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2017, 10:25:08 AM
Wolves spent 30 million. Doesn't always mean much but they must be pleased. Birmingham after shouting they had no money and were in trouble suddenly had money to burn. As all great managers, the Birmingham manager has learned that spending big and putting clubs in debt is the only way to prove just how good you are.
It certainly has added some spice to the season. As well as the obvious desire to beat our poorer relations in west london and middlesex, giving the two west midlands clubs a lesson now rates quite high
So the big spenders this summer were:
Birmingham
Villa
Wolves
Must be a Midlands thing. The team I fear most is Wolves, especially after last season. Cardiff and Leeds look like they'll be strong too without spending loads.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2017, 10:25:08 AM
Wolves spent 30 million. Doesn't always mean much but they must be pleased. Birmingham after shouting they had no money and were in trouble suddenly had money to burn. As all great managers, the Birmingham manager has learned that spending big and putting clubs in debt is the only way to prove just how good you are.
Not sure why Rednapp is a "great manager" LH.
He wrecked Portsmouth.
I don't believe Southampton or QPR rate him that highly either.
The best thing for me, would be Bilic gets sacked, and he goes to West Ham and trashes them as well.
lol
He's already done that though.
I'm god to defend Harry here.
He didn't wreck Portsmouth, and to be honest far from it. That was all down to Gaydermak, Manderic had turned them round, and with Harry he got them into the Prem. He (Manderic) then sold to Gaydermak, who just pulled the plug when he got bored and refused to meet the clubs liabilities that he had authorised. The only other person with blame there IMO was Peter Storey.
Southampton don't like him, because he went back to Portsmouth leaving them in the championship, Southampton still made the playoffs that season. QPR was/is a disaster as Redknapp, Hughes, Hasslebank, etc have proved.
He did well at Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs.
I think Ipswich have done the best with what they have to work with, bringing in Waghorn and Garner for pretty much no money at all, and some decent loans too.
Leeds and Cardiff have looked the best in-terms of getting value for money.
Leeds and Birmingham had decent windows. Wolves spent a lot and it seems to be working out well. Villa bought a lot of old players.
I would think a lot of fans of other teams will think we had a good window. (Which we did) Adding quality players to the squad in all areas. The options we have in the midfield and forward areas is surely better than any other team in the league. Another option up front would be nice, but I think Fonte is going to be a star.
Fulham!
Quote from: fulhamben on September 01, 2017, 07:25:09 AM
Was going to do a thread later on this where we can put all the teams into 3 options. Might aswell make it here.
Wolves good window
Brentford bad window
Us wait and see, (IMO)
Birmingham good window
Birmingham of course, did anyone think Harry would have a bad window.
Clem on Radio 5 said that Wolves only have one forward. So for all their spending they haven't fully strengthened.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on September 01, 2017, 10:50:38 PM
Clem on Radio 5 said that Wolves only have one forward. So for all their spending they haven't fully strengthened.
They were also annoyed by the fact that we got Graham and that they didn't sign Locadia. Wasn't all perfect as far as they're concerned.
Quote from: snarks on September 01, 2017, 04:32:22 PM
I'm god to defend Harry here.
He didn't wreck Portsmouth, and to be honest far from it. That was all down to Gaydermak, Manderic had turned them round, and with Harry he got them into the Prem. He (Manderic) then sold to Gaydermak, who just pulled the plug when he got bored and refused to meet the clubs liabilities that he had authorised. The only other person with blame there IMO was Peter Storey.
Southampton don't like him, because he went back to Portsmouth leaving them in the championship, Southampton still made the playoffs that season. QPR was/is a disaster as Redknapp, Hughes, Hasslebank, etc have proved.
He did well at Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs.
That's a very fair assessment
Quote from: Skatzoffc on September 01, 2017, 12:43:05 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 01, 2017, 10:25:08 AM
Wolves spent 30 million. Doesn't always mean much but they must be pleased. Birmingham after shouting they had no money and were in trouble suddenly had money to burn. As all great managers, the Birmingham manager has learned that spending big and putting clubs in debt is the only way to prove just how good you are.
Not sure why Rednapp is a "great manager" LH.
He wrecked Portsmouth.
I don't believe Southampton or QPR rate him that highly either.
The best thing for me, would be Bilic gets sacked, and he goes to West Ham and trashes them as well.
lol
Wasn't "great manager" for Harry said with tongue in cheek?
Quote from: snarks on September 01, 2017, 04:32:22 PM
I'm god to defend Harry here.
He didn't wreck Portsmouth, and to be honest far from it. That was all down to Gaydermak, Manderic had turned them round, and with Harry he got them into the Prem. He (Manderic) then sold to Gaydermak, who just pulled the plug when he got bored and refused to meet the clubs liabilities that he had authorised. The only other person with blame there IMO was Peter Storey.
Southampton don't like him, because he went back to Portsmouth leaving them in the championship, Southampton still made the playoffs that season. QPR was/is a disaster as Redknapp, Hughes, Hasslebank, etc have proved.
He did well at Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs.
Fair play Snarks.
Quote from: snarks on September 01, 2017, 04:32:22 PM
I'm god to defend Harry here.
He didn't wreck Portsmouth, and to be honest far from it. That was all down to Gaydermak, Manderic had turned them round, and with Harry he got them into the Prem. He (Manderic) then sold to Gaydermak, who just pulled the plug when he got bored and refused to meet the clubs liabilities that he had authorised. The only other person with blame there IMO was Peter Storey.
Southampton don't like him, because he went back to Portsmouth leaving them in the championship, Southampton still made the playoffs that season. QPR was/is a disaster as Redknapp, Hughes, Hasslebank, etc have proved.
He did well at Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs.
I agree I like Harry, he should have a good influence on Birmingham and that concerns me as we have to play them twice.
Us by far. Brought in 6 sold 2 for a 12.5 million profit and kept Sess and Cairney
