Although he was his usually cheeky chappy self, I was rather concerned by his appearance.
He looked wrecked. Hair gone grey, face prematurely aged. Dressed in rags. Looked a bit like a homeless person.
Was he J R Hartley in disguise?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on September 26, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
Although he was his usually cheeky chappy self, I was rather concerned by his appearance.
He looked wrecked. Hair gone grey, face prematurely aged. Dressed in rags. Looked a bit like a homeless person.
Just being a style icon SiQ, not my taste but fashion is very much a personal thing........ 092.gif
Looks like he has been sleeping in shop doorways again.
I hope that the vile, moneygrabbing cretin is broke.
Quote from: Keynsham on September 26, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
I hope that the vile, moneygrabbing cretin is broke.
hehe - say what you really think lol
I don't disagree though.
Quote from: Keynsham on September 26, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
I hope that the vile, moneygrabbing cretin is broke.
He certainly does his utmost to look as though he is broke, and he looks unemployable, although he could get a job as a vagrant.
It's not even like he's particularly funny. He appeals to the sunday league crowd as there's always one nutter who is useless but is kept around in favour of 'bantz'. He is Bullard.
he has no wit at all
I liked Bullard. He did a lot for Fulham with his goals and assists . We could do with a player of his skill in the team now.( as he was when he played for us)
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: Keynsham on September 26, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
I hope that the vile, moneygrabbing cretin is broke.
One of the top 3 or 4 English players we've had in the last 30 years, on the fringes of the national team at his peak. Still remember his brilliant free kick against villa which gave us our first win under Hodgson and our first step towards the great escape. Then he Left us for a tidy fee at the perfect time, just past his peak, like McCormack and Aluko have done more recently. So why the bitterness?
Top 3 or 4? Really? Murphy, Zamora, Cairney and Parker (that's off the top of my head) would have something to say about that. Bullard was a decent player, but when you think that the England team has had Jay Boothroyd playing for it in recent memory...
Bitterness is down to his incoherent interview where he suggested Hull City were the biggest club he'd played for. he also said this:
"I had sixteen months left on my contract, which to me – I've been out sixteen months, I know it isn't a long time – Also I didn't feel I had the backing from the club, so I felt like it was time to move on. I felt like Fulham didn't want me and it was as simple as that really. I was in talks with Fulham over a contract and I was told I'm not getting a new contract and I can leave in January. So for a player to be told that was quite harsh, you know, and I came up to speak to Hull and it was totally different, and it sort of made it a lot easier for me. I'm only human, I just wanted to play for a team who really wanted me, and Hull showed me that really."
Read that again:
and I wasn't willing to play with sixteen months... with one year left on my contract, and I did tell them that, I made that clear, even though I am under contract.If Aluko had said that in an interview he'd be quite rightly pilloried as Bullard is now - whats the difference? We had just rehabilitated him for 16 months and there was no guarantee he wouldn't get injured again (which poor Hull found out quickly) why would he deserve a longer contract?
That I think is the long and short of the bitterness.
I was trying to hunt down the quote from his Hull press conference at the very least. He was an average player that did well (initially) for us, who's ego far outstripped his ability.
And then there was the greed after the club had done so much for him to get him back on the pitch, as Marcel has said.
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
Cairney is Scottish and Murphy and Parker were past it when we signed them, so I suggest you keep thinking Marcel. I will help you by saying Sean Davis.
As to that quote, not sure how that advances your argument. I'd struggle to think of a single season where a player hasn't left us for more money or long term security somewhere else. It's far from admirable but it's also far from unusual. As I said, Aluko (who literally did exactly what that Bullard quote describes, just without having the decency to say so in public) McCormack, add to that Roberts, Dembele and possibly even Malone... in fact pretty much every player that's left of their own volition
Murphy still counts though as he was 31, was our captain and a huge part of our success. Far more so than Bullard. Cairney is debateable as he was born in Nottingham which according to my atlas is in england.
"One of the top 3 or 4 English players" - Cairney is english whther he's registered or not so counts.
You asked why there's bitterness - the quote alongside other comments is why. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Aluko, Malone, McCormack, Roberts etc weren't out for 16 months and then bailed on the club because they wouldn't pay him higher wages after 8 months of being back...?
He was interviewed a couple of months back on morning TV,had a man bun,what looked like a girls blouse under a pink waistcoat and jeans torn to shreds.
Everyone to their own,but he looked a stand in for Quentin Crisp...
Although an interesting conversation to have outside of this one, I'm not fussed where he ranks among his peers.
But those were my reasons for disliking him, and because they are personal as well as unimportant and historical then I don't really see them changing very much.
To be fair to him though, about 2 years when he was on Talksport, I tweeted a question 'do you regret leaving Fulham with hindsight' he said absolutely yes and it was a dreadful decision for him all round and put lots of praise on the club.
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on September 26, 2017, 03:53:28 PM
Murphy still counts though as he was 31, was our captain and a huge part of our success. Far more so than Bullard. Cairney is debateable as he was born in Nottingham which according to my atlas is in england. "One of the top 3 or 4 English players" - Cairney is english whther he's registered or not so counts.
Yes Danny Murphy was very good for us. So was Danny Cullip but that didn't get him into the England team. Same goes for Cairney who wouldn't have played for Scotland if he had even the remotest chance of playing for England. Only FFC players I can recall being in or around the national team whilst at Fulham are Davis, Zamora, knight and smalling. Arguably Bullard was better than any of that lot. Certainly he isn't far enough down the list to justify you taking issue with my original comment this much.
I haven't taken issue with your comment particularly - my point (though messily put together - thank heavens Cairney was born south of the wall) was merely that I didn't agree and think that Bullard is hugely overrated both as a presenter, banter-in-chief and most importantly footballer. If he was shy and retiring and not bounding over teammates in a goalmouth scramble he wouldnt have been anywhere near the england team.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on September 26, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
Although he was his usually cheeky chappy self, I was rather concerned by his appearance.
He looked wrecked. Hair gone grey, face prematurely aged. Dressed in rags. Looked a bit like a homeless person.
Is that not just hipster fashion
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Quote from: alexmur on September 26, 2017, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on September 26, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
Although he was his usually cheeky chappy self, I was rather concerned by his appearance.
He looked wrecked. Hair gone grey, face prematurely aged. Dressed in rags. Looked a bit like a homeless person.
Is that not just hipster fashion
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On the contrary, hipsters are well dressed, well-kempt, beard that makes city slicker look like a lumberjack , drink craft beer, smoke a pipe and eat popcorn in bars rather than nuts/crisps. Bullard looks more like a feminist or liberal.
Just an interpretation of his comment: He had a 16-month layoff, was rehabilitated by the club and was, he says, talking about a new deal. He infers that he perceived that the club didn't value him - perhaps because they didn't want to commit to an extended term or higher wages given any doubt over his long-term fitness and the fact they'd just paid him for a long period for nothing.
Hull wanted him, so of course they'd say things to make him feel good and wanted. Pretty obvious. Selling him when we did was great business for us, maybe we knew that the knee wouldn't go on for ever.
In any case, twazzock though he was and possibly a mercenary one, I liked him and was sorry when he got the career-ending injury so soon into his time with Hull. 15 minutes, wasn't it?
A taxi driver neighbour had taken Andy Johnson's father to Craven Cottage and according to him Bullard had no respect at all for Hodgson's discipline and treated most training sessions as a joke.
I went off him from that moment.
Statto: I suggest a period off the board might square your head up. Respectfully of course.
Don't think he was wanted by Roy. I liked him, I believe he had talent, could spray the ball and good at dead balls. It was the right thing to let him go as he was supposed to be a really lazy trainer and a bit of a maverick. Neither of these assets would have worked under Roy.
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 07:13:37 PM
Quote from: MikeW on September 26, 2017, 06:01:41 PM
Statto: I suggest a period off the board might square your head up. Respectfully of course.
GTF
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Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on September 26, 2017, 05:43:05 PM
A taxi driver neighbour had taken Andy Johnson's father to Craven Cottage and according to him Bullard had no respect at all for Hodgson's discipline and treated most training sessions as a joke.
I went off him from that moment.
I think we all knew that was the case, and why he was generally at odds with Hodgson. It never really came to be an issue as he was off to Hull for a cool 5m after his injury - it worked out ok for all and time heals.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 26, 2017, 04:03:26 PM
He was interviewed a couple of months back on morning TV,had a man bun,what looked like a girls blouse under a pink waistcoat and jeans torn to shreds.
Everyone to their own,but he looked a stand in for Quentin Crisp...
I thought the flavour was more Cheese & Onion than Quentin.
Quote from: The Rock on September 27, 2017, 02:30:12 AM
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on September 26, 2017, 05:43:05 PM
A taxi driver neighbour had taken Andy Johnson's father to Craven Cottage and according to him Bullard had no respect at all for Hodgson's discipline and treated most training sessions as a joke.
I went off him from that moment.
I think we all knew that was the case, and why he was generally at odds with Hodgson. It never really came to be an issue as he was off to Hull for a cool 5m after his injury - it worked out ok for all and time heals.
I wonder whether Chris Baird is of the same opinion?....
Bullard can be very amusing. His tales of off the pitch antics are up there with anyone's. Then podcasts he did are often hilarious https://www.acast.com/magicsponge
The Barry Fry one is possibly the best https://www.acast.com/magicsponge/barryfrysunbelievablestories
For an injury prone player to get offered a 5 year contract on silly money was just daft by Hull - can't blame Jimmy for taking that - he knew he would never last long.
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: Keynsham on September 26, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
I hope that the vile, moneygrabbing cretin is broke.
One of the top 3 or 4 English players we've had in the last 30 years, on the fringes of the national team at his peak. Still remember his brilliant free kick against villa which gave us our first win under Hodgson and our first step towards the great escape. Then he Left us for a tidy fee at the perfect time, just past his peak, like McCormack and Aluko have done more recently. So why the bitterness?
That's right , he gave us all a lot of entertainment and at the end of the day Fulham came out of it well.
Often wondered though if Roy wanted him to leave as I suspect he was not really the type of player best suited to Roy's organised tactics.
Quote from: filham on September 27, 2017, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: Keynsham on September 26, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
I hope that the vile, moneygrabbing cretin is broke.
One of the top 3 or 4 English players we've had in the last 30 years, on the fringes of the national team at his peak. Still remember his brilliant free kick against villa which gave us our first win under Hodgson and our first step towards the great escape. Then he Left us for a tidy fee at the perfect time, just past his peak, like McCormack and Aluko have done more recently. So why the bitterness?
That's right , he gave us all a lot of entertainment and at the end of the day Fulham came out of it well.
Often wondered though if Roy wanted him to leave as I suspect he was not really the type of player best suited to Roy's organised tactics.
Agreed, but he could change a game.
Bullard was terrific at his best but spent many months out injured and completely lacked the discipline that Roy demanded of his squad. When he came back after that long lay off he didn't look the same player and his rapid demise at Hull suggested we did well to bank £5m for him.
Sorry Statto but may I suggest you are seeing him through rose tinted glasses?
When he made his second or third comeback from injury at hull he got badly injured in his first game back. As he was helped off he burst into tears. It takes a big man to do that in front of 30,000 people and in the glare of tv cameras. Always had Respect for him since then.
