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Title: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Riversider on October 15, 2017, 11:20:16 AM
Not seen this mentioned yet on any forum, but how the hell did Norwood miss on 88 minutes ?
If he had gone in with his head he had to score, looked a terrible miss from Block S, that would have been 2-2 with 5 additional minutes still to come,
Anybody else have a different view/opinion of it ?
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: ffc73 on October 15, 2017, 11:31:36 AM
Poor miss.  Head, left foot, any part of his body other than his right foot that he went with.  Another player to lack confidence and/or ability in their standing foot.

To be fair to him though.  He made the run.  Fonte, Ayite and Mollo were all static on the 18 yard line
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: MrD1879 on October 15, 2017, 12:10:17 PM
Massively dissapointed in him yesterday. Caught in possession several times in key parts of the pitch and backed out of lots of 50 /50 challenges. Although he showed great composure with the penalty I felt he should have been hooked and not Stef jo
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Jem on October 15, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
He scored a penalty - he walks on water
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Fulham 442 on October 15, 2017, 03:31:42 PM
Agree with Mr D re Norwood, but then he wouldn't have been on the pitch to score the penalty, which he took really well!   That miss on 88  minutes could have been very costly as we wouldn't have necessarily have got the same situation at the end with their goalie making a complete hash, despite having a great game up until then.  Thought Odoi took his shot really well as he had a split second to make it and any other angle and their defender would probably have made the clearance.  I've watched the highlights as I was sure their first goal was offside from where I was in the Hammy End, but couldn't see from those. GJ and Jamie certainly didn't make any comment.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: filham on October 15, 2017, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jem on October 15, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
He scored a penalty - he walks on water
Just think how we will view him if he gets another.
Anyone else remember after the last penalty miss by Fonte that Jocanovic said that Fonte will be taking the next one, glad the coach changed his mind.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Robbie on October 15, 2017, 03:38:43 PM
He scored the penalty!  Without that we would have lost!
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: davew on October 15, 2017, 09:28:41 PM
How much did Fonte cost, I have forgotten and was he signed as a striker, again I have forgotten? I do remember though that he is not bad at corners (taking them...not being in the box to attack them), no good at penalties or he would have taken the 1 yesterday! All in all a good buy then was he or could the money have been spent elsewhere? Sorry to return to a subject which has been discussed so many times on here, but FFC are still in need of a quality or even part quality striker. How we are now 4th favourites to win promotion, I have no idea?????
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Riversider on October 15, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: davew on October 15, 2017, 09:28:41 PM
How much did Fonte cost, I have forgotten and was he signed as a striker, again I have forgotten? I do remember though that he is not bad at corners (taking them...not being in the box to attack them), no good at penalties or he would have taken the 1 yesterday! All in all a good buy then was he or could the money have been spent elsewhere? Sorry to return to a subject which has been discussed so many times on here, but FFC are still in need of a quality or even part quality striker. How we are now 4th favourites to win promotion, I have no idea?????

What has any of that got to do with the Norwood miss on 88 minutes ?
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: The Old Count on October 15, 2017, 10:48:20 PM
It wasn't that bad a miss given the run he had to make.  Also he wasn't at fault for the first goal - we were under pressure due to Button rolling the ball out short when Preston were closing down all of our players.
He scored the penalty and generaly played well.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Marinelloguthrie on October 15, 2017, 11:41:02 PM
To be fair to him, he obviously knew he wasn't having a great game so showed alot of character to take it and score..
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on October 16, 2017, 02:00:32 AM
Maybe he bottled it a bit, perhaps understandably
If he had of headed it he may have felt his head could have smashed into the post.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: toshes mate on October 16, 2017, 07:56:47 AM
I actually thought Fonte's missed header in the first half was marginally harder to do than Norwood's almost last gasp attempt.  Norwood obviously made an impact on the Preston keeper without actually touching him or the ball and that may have contributed to the later spilling of the ball by Maxwell to Odoi.  There did seem to be quite a debate about who was going to take the penalty and I am pleased Norwood won.  Will he take the next one?  Who knows?
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: MrD1879 on October 16, 2017, 08:03:03 AM
Even if he didn't go for it with his head he should have used his left foot correct me if I'm wrong but he went for it with the outside of his right boot? I've noticed alot that he would rather use the outside of his right then his left foot.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: davew on October 16, 2017, 11:22:53 AM
Quote from: Riversider on October 15, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: davew on October 15, 2017, 09:28:41 PM
How much did Fonte cost, I have forgotten and was he signed as a striker, again I have forgotten? I do remember though that he is not bad at corners (taking them...not being in the box to attack them), no good at penalties or he would have taken the 1 yesterday! All in all a good buy then was he or could the money have been spent elsewhere? Sorry to return to a subject which has been discussed so many times on here, but FFC are still in need of a quality or even part quality striker. How we are now 4th favourites to win promotion, I have no idea?????

What has any of that got to do with the Norwood miss on 88 minutes ?
Good point (lol), not a lot really, except I don't expect too much from Norwood but I do from our "new striker" who I find just as frustrating, in fact more so than Norwood. Looks like I am not the only one who has mentioned Fonte under this thread, even if it is off topic (agreed)!
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: colinwhite on October 16, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
If he goes with his head he scores. many players are unwilling to head the ball these days ,the art of the diving header seemt have disappeared from the game !
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: RaySmith on October 16, 2017, 12:16:12 PM
A cliché I know - but its so easy for us to criticise fro the stands - something that happened in the heat of the moment,  not even about making a decision, no time, just acting instinctively.

I'm sure Norwood  has replayed that moment many times in his mind, and  wondered why he failed to convert that chance, and beat himself up about it. He will know that as a highly paid pro he  should have scored.

I bet he's relieved he converted that pen.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: ffc73 on October 16, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
He said: "I missed a sitter, completely missed the ball and misjudged it and I should've scored to put it 2-2 and Denis got me off the hook"
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: The Old Count on October 16, 2017, 09:28:47 PM
Norwood - I feel another scapegoat coming on. 
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on October 16, 2017, 10:17:27 PM
It is a simple fact that had Norwood scored, the opportunity for Odoi to score in the last seconds would not have occurred

Preston were so shattered we may have had other chances in those final minutes, but then Preston could have broken away and scored a winner!

We lost our opportunity to win that game with our misses in the first fifteen minutes.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: cmg on October 16, 2017, 11:23:16 PM
Credit to him for having the bottle, given our recent record, to take it and even more credit for actually converting it.
Not the greatest penalty kick I've ever seen, but it got the job done. Which is the main thing.

How he emerged as the taker is a bit of a puzzle. As far as I can make out that was only his second penalty in League competition. He missed his first one. Four years ago when playing for Huddersfield. Obviously took a while to get his confidence back. Or perhaps he has been practicing these last four seasons.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 17, 2017, 02:46:23 AM
I have seen worse misses by so called better players who have cost their clubs a fortune over the years. He more than redeemed himself by scoring the penalty.
I don't know why every mistake has to be dissected as though it was a criminal offence.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: colinwhite on October 17, 2017, 05:38:38 AM
I dont have a problem with missing the goal it was the 4 times he Lost possesion in our half in the first half which got me going. Two of these situations resulted in goal chances (buttons save) one in their second goal, not to mention all the encouragement it gave them to continue their press. Think he is a good squad player but not acceptable to get caught being too slow in possession like that. Nothing to do with making hime a scapegoat BTW.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: Tabby on October 17, 2017, 09:36:15 AM
Quote from: colinwhite on October 17, 2017, 05:38:38 AM
I dont have a problem with missing the goal it was the 4 times he Lost possesion in our half in the first half which got me going. Two of these situations resulted in goal chances (buttons save) one in their second goal, not to mention all the encouragement it gave them to continue their press. Think he is a good squad player but not acceptable to get caught being too slow in possession like that. Nothing to do with making hime a scapegoat BTW.

He has consistently been losing out on the ball or playing bad back passes putting the defenders under undue pressure every game I've seen so far. He also seems to have an uncanny knack for getting the ball to end up with the opposition when he tackles.

I haven't seen much to suggest that he is any better than O'Hara, a mediocre championship player. Which I guess is okay considering that he is backup and on loan.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: The Old Count on October 17, 2017, 07:21:31 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 17, 2017, 02:46:23 AM
I have seen worse misses by so called better players who have cost their clubs a fortune over the years. He more than redeemed himself by scoring the penalty.
I don't know why every mistake has to be dissected as though it was a criminal offence.

A bit of sense.  Well said.
Title: Re: The Norwood miss !
Post by: epsomraver on October 18, 2017, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 17, 2017, 02:46:23 AM
I have seen worse misses by so called better players who have cost their clubs a fortune over the years. He more than redeemed himself by scoring the penalty.
I don't know why every mistake has to be dissected as though it was a criminal offence.
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