Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
He played for the U23 team against Southampton this week and didn't look anything special.
Perhaps you can't tell from Reserve games because Jordan Graham also played and looked a class above the others.
Spoke to a coach at the club and he doesn't think he is up to it defensively. All right going forward but too weak for this league. Also said he thinks Slav is proving a point by dropping some players who could easily make the 1st team squad. Nothing that hasn't been reported already.
Reference my earlier mail(s) about massive player turnover and the Coach having 'non-favourites', I regret Mr Soares is destined to be a statistic.
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on November 23, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
Spoke to a coach at the club and he doesn't think he is up to it defensively. All right going forward but too weak for this league. Also said he thinks Slav is proving a point by dropping some players who could easily make the 1st team squad. Nothing that hasn't been reported already.
That seems to make sense, I agree about him appearing too weak, just like Jozabed, and may explain a lot as to why Soares is out of the picture. We are almost in December now, and I don't think he has had a start yet.
What was the idea be it a loan only of getting a guy in who was injured and couldn't play for ages..Hilarious
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 24, 2017, 08:05:35 AM
What was the idea be it a loan only of getting a guy in who was injured and couldn't play for ages..Hilarious
Almost as hilarious as spending 13m on an injured player in Mitroglou when we desperately needed someone to hit the ground running
Why is that coach discussing internal politics with a fan? Think he needs a disciplinary
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 24, 2017, 08:05:35 AM
What was the idea be it a loan only of getting a guy in who was injured and couldn't play for ages..Hilarious
You couldn't make it up. A bit of a laughing stock.
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 24, 2017, 08:32:30 AM
Why is that coach discussing internal politics with a fan? Think he needs a disciplinary
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Was he a signing due to that numbskull's box ticking who has now departed the club? Malone should never have been allowed to leave.
Ps I see Ighalo may be coming back to England, I wonder if Slava may sound his old player out for a 6 months contract....
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Quote from: bog on November 24, 2017, 09:17:58 AM
Malone should never have been allowed to leave.
And that is where the lesson - you don't sell players (if it can be at all avoided) who have been instrumental in your success - should end.
The summer window should have been used to strengthen the squad, remedy the need for a striker, and buy players who may prove, in time, to be better than the existing first team choice. When we start doing that without needing to resort to a tick box shambles then we may have a decent shout about returning to the PL.
The whole nonsense of our recruitment team is one step forward and three back.
Doesn't add up as that means Slav thinks Fonte IS strong enough? He clearly struggles just like Jozabed and Ruiz before him.
The recruitment team appear to be one step up the evolutionary ladder from a Garden Gnome.
It's all to the detriment of the club.
Quote from: bog on November 24, 2017, 09:17:58 AM
Was he a signing due to that numbskull's box ticking who has now departed the club? Malone should never have been allowed to leave.
Ps I see Ighalo may be coming back to England, I wonder if Slava may sound his old player out for a 6 months contract....
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I would not have thought it cold enough to bring Igloos ☃️ over to England, not yet anyway.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 24, 2017, 12:09:53 PM
Doesn't add up as that means Slav thinks Fonte IS strong enough? He clearly struggles just like Jozabed and Ruiz before him.
It does make me wonder as Ruiz made a bigger impact than rui,who is having real problems on a physical level with the only game havin made a real impact was ipswich.I hope and think he can only improve as all these big money buys turn out to be 2bob longterm.
The only part of Ruiz that made an impact on Fulham was his hair. He was complete rubbish.
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Quote from: the nutflush on November 25, 2017, 06:37:56 AM
The only part of Ruiz that made an impact on Fulham was his hair. He was complete rubbish.
Completely disagree, I loved watching him at Fulham purely for the moments of magic he could create and the fact he was actually a very good footballer.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Agree with some of the sentiments (but a bit less stridently), just worth pointing out that fortunately, in Soares case, we haven't been sold a puppy only loaned one. He can return to his owners tail between legs unless he makes an impact soon.
Quote from: Twig on November 25, 2017, 10:18:40 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Agree with some of the sentiments (but a bit less stridently), just worth pointing out that fortunately, in Soares case, we haven't been sold a puppy only loaned one. He can return to his owners tail between legs unless he makes an impact soon.
Hmmm that's a good word strident, I like it.
I was actually referring to Fonte regarding the pup. Otherwise I am glad we agree on some of these important issues, and I shall try and not be quite so strident in future.
We really have signed a number of players in the last two or three years who are just not up to Championship standard. Can we now expect the Chairman to now release big money for more players who could turn out to be next year's failures.
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
All credit to Bryan on that issue, I like him for that, and we are on first name terms, and I am glad you reminded me about that. Did you know his last name is González.
He scored 12 goals in 97 games for us, and for the benefit of the stats fanatics, that's about one goal in 12 matches give or take. But I will not hold that against him.
Bryan is now playing in the tranquility of the Portuguese League for somebody called Sporting.
I wonder why an English club did not want to acquire him.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
All credit to Bryan on that issue, I like him for that, and we are on first name terms, and I am glad you reminded me about that. Did you know his last name is González.
He scored 12 goals in 97 games for us, and for the benefit of the stats fanatics, that's about one goal in 12 matches give or take. But I will not hold that against him.
Bryan is now playing in the tranquility of the Portuguese League for somebody called Sporting.
I wonder why an English club did not want to acquire him.
Or maybe they did an the lure of Champions league football and winning trophy's was more appealing??
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
Quote from: @jolslover on November 25, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 25, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
I never fancied Ruiz, too milky, couldn't tackle a boiled egg or foul a footpath, or head a bus queue. He would have got well sorted out in the Championship. As for Fonte, and any other costly signings. At his price, he should be making an impact straight away, not having to spend half a season fitting in, and it looks as though Soares is another one that fits the mould of a milky player from overseas that doesn't make an impact.
If Cauley Woodrow had scored only the one goal in the amount of games Fonte had played, he would be slaughtered by the self proclaimed purists, who need to remove their blinkers, or at least adjust them.
The recruitment department clearly do not do their homework, and he is just another player that we have been sold a pup.
Would have got well sorted out in the championship? Except he didn't when he played for us in the championship for 6 months and was one of our best players.. then signed a new 6 month contract just so the club could get money for him, Don't see many players doing something like this ...
All credit to Bryan on that issue, I like him for that, and we are on first name terms, and I am glad you reminded me about that. Did you know his last name is González.
He scored 12 goals in 97 games for us, and for the benefit of the stats fanatics, that's about one goal in 12 matches give or take. But I will not hold that against him.
Bryan is now playing in the tranquility of the Portuguese League for somebody called Sporting.
I wonder why an English club did not want to acquire him.
Or maybe they did an the lure of Champions league football and winning trophy's was more appealing??
Yes you are probably right, another good example of that is Dembele joining somebody called Celtic.
Quote from: filham on November 25, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
We really have signed a number of players in the last two or three years who are just not up to Championship standard. Can we now expect the Chairman to now release big money for more players who could turn out to be next year's failures.
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If I was a betting man, I would say no, non, never, nein, niet, not, none.
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 24, 2017, 12:09:53 PM
Doesn't add up as that means Slav thinks Fonte IS strong enough? He clearly struggles just like Jozabed and Ruiz before him.
Exactly. There's a lack of logic, it seems to me, in Slav's selections, the most mysterious being playing your brightest, fastest, most dangerous winger, Sess, at left back. Even if Soares is weak defensively, Sess is not that great at LB. Surely what you gain by having Sess terrorising the opposition would be greater than what you lose by having him in defence, especially at home.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where this people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
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Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
Quote from: Tonywa on November 26, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
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I concur and echo your thoughts.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on November 26, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
I concur and echo your thoughts.
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I recall a certain poster(Our foreign correspondant) lol
stating Soares was World Class,really?...Why did Porto let him go on loan then..
My Uncle with his peg leg could look good on You Tube.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 26, 2017, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on November 26, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
I concur and echo your thoughts.
I recall a certain poster(Our foreign correspondant) lol
stating Soares was World Class,really?...Why did Porto let him go on loan then..
My Uncle with his peg leg could look good on You Tube.
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Not sure if you are on about me but I don't think I ever said Soares was world class, Please look through my posts and find where I called him world class.
(If you are on about me)
His defensive qualities are no better than Sess, so, why bring him in, to do a job, that is already being done, as best as it can, by one of our own players?
If Sess needs pushing up, then, the most obvious answer is to bring in Odoi, who, I can categorically say now, is a better defender than Soares.
For me, it was another pants buy, and, if anyone was going to at least challenge Sess to that position, then it had to be better than Soares, sorry.
Quote from: @jolslover on November 26, 2017, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 26, 2017, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on November 26, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
I concur and echo your thoughts.
I recall a certain poster(Our foreign correspondant) lol
stating Soares was World Class,really?...Why did Porto let him go on loan then..
My Uncle with his peg leg could look good on You Tube.
Not sure if you are on about me but I don't think I ever said Soares was world class, Please look through my posts and find where I called him world class.
(If you are on about me)
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Jols you've got a terrible guilty conscience.😁😁😁
Fitness the issue with him. Similar to Fredericks when he came to us he can't last more than 60mins and they are working on that.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 26, 2017, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on November 26, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
I concur and echo your thoughts.
I recall a certain poster(Our foreign correspondant) lol
stating Soares was World Class,really?...Why did Porto let him go on loan then..
My Uncle with his peg leg could look good on You Tube.
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Was your Uncle a Pirate, and did he have a parrot on his shoulder and wore a three cornered hat, and sailed the seven seas.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 26, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on November 26, 2017, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 26, 2017, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on November 26, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
I concur and echo your thoughts.
I recall a certain poster(Our foreign correspondant) lol
stating Soares was World Class,really?...Why did Porto let him go on loan then..
My Uncle with his peg leg could look good on You Tube.
Not sure if you are on about me but I don't think I ever said Soares was world class, Please look through my posts and find where I called him world class.
(If you are on about me)
Jols you've got a terrible guilty conscience.😁😁😁
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and a terrible memory, we are gathering evidence all the time, and our Investigations Department have CCTV footage, Independent Witnesses and photographs, including a signed confession by yourself under duress. 067.gif 051
MJG: If I did nothing else than live in a cossetted gym environment and played football pretty much all the time in a totally professional environment I don't think 'fitness problem' would be on my horizon. Especially as a lad. Sorry, doesn't wash. He's a waste of time.
Quote from: MikeW on November 26, 2017, 07:15:28 PM
MJG: If I did nothing else than live in a cossetted gym environment and played football pretty much all the time in a totally professional environment I don't think 'fitness problem' would be on my horizon. Especially as a lad. Sorry, doesn't wash. He's a waste of time.
so explain Fredericks when he first arrived? Blowing out his arse after an hour. Reither was the same.
Quote from: MJG on November 26, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: MikeW on November 26, 2017, 07:15:28 PM
MJG: If I did nothing else than live in a cossetted gym environment and played football pretty much all the time in a totally professional environment I don't think 'fitness problem' would be on my horizon. Especially as a lad. Sorry, doesn't wash. He's a waste of time.
so explain Fredericks when he first arrived? Blowing out his arse after an hour. Reither was the same.
He's been here since August, how long does it take.
Signing injured players,clubs gone nuts.
The club signing unfit and injured players is a rather odd way of strengthening the team with immediate effect. Aren't there any fit and uninjured players left to recruit.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 26, 2017, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: MJG on November 26, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: MikeW on November 26, 2017, 07:15:28 PM
MJG: If I did nothing else than live in a cossetted gym environment and played football pretty much all the time in a totally professional environment I don't think 'fitness problem' would be on my horizon. Especially as a lad. Sorry, doesn't wash. He's a waste of time.
so explain Fredericks when he first arrived? Blowing out his arse after an hour. Reither was the same.
He's been here since August, how long does it take.
Signing injured players,clubs gone nuts.
took Fredericks two seasons to get anywhere near match fitness for 90 mins. This is not about injury fitness.
Anyway just what I was told and you can either take it on good faith or think he's loving crap, which clearly most of you do.
Soares so far appears to fit the same flipping crap image of the other flipping crap players signed in recent times, who have failed to nail down a regular place.
I have more faith in our Academy players, rather than these bizarre imports.
I would like to see Soares play, not because I know anything about him, more that I like Odoi at CB and Sess at LW.
Gotta give him a chance, seems mad playing Sess at LB a few days after scoring a hatrick.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 26, 2017, 06:56:05 PM
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Quote from: irishfulham on November 23, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
Don't think I'm spelling his name correctly but new left back where the hell is he!? Injured again?
This invisible man Soares who never starts for the first team, despite being told by misguided people he is the next best thing since sliced bread, is now becoming a Soare point with me.
Almost every time we sign a player we are told here by those who like to think they are in the know that we have made a spectacularly good signing and are told all about the player. Soares is one example and I seem to recall that Fonte's arrival was also hailed by some on this board as a breakthrough. Other than a few clips on YouTube I wonder where these people get their information for it is abundently clear that they haven't got a clue what they are talking about. I had decided not to be following the endless transfer speculation during the summer as so much it was based on speculation rather than any real knowledge, but was told it was the lifeblood of the board and I should stay with it. I think I'll stick to my original opinion in future.
I concur and echo your thoughts.
I recall a certain poster(Our foreign correspondant) lol
stating Soares was World Class,really?...Why did Porto let him go on loan then..
My Uncle with his peg leg could look good on You Tube.
Not sure if you are on about me but I don't think I ever said Soares was world class, Please look through my posts and find where I called him world class.
(If you are on about me)
Jols you've got a terrible guilty conscience.😁😁😁
and a terrible memory, we are gathering evidence all the time, and our Investigations Department have CCTV footage, Independent Witnesses and photographs, including a signed confession by yourself under duress. 067.gif 051
[/quote]Yes, I despair at the unfounded, delusional backing of substandard players and incompetent club officials that we get on the site.
Jols and Marcel G continue to try to defend the above despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on November 26, 2017, 08:32:23 PM
I would like to see Soares play, not because I know anything about him, more that I like Odoi at CB and Sess at LW.
Gotta give him a chance, seems mad playing Sess at LB a few days after scoring a hatrick.
Exactly, how can anyone in their right mind play a player at left back, which is clearly not his best position, play him there, after he scored a hatrick 4 days earlier in his best position, especially as there is possibly other alternatives, and if the aren't, why aren't there.
Absolutely bizarre. As if we haven't got enough problems trying to score from open play.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on November 26, 2017, 05:51:23 PM
His defensive qualities are no better than Sess, so, why bring him in, to do a job, that is already being done, as best as it can, by one of our own players?
If Sess needs pushing up, then, the most obvious answer is to bring in Odoi, who, I can categorically say now, is a better defender than Soares.
For me, it was another pants buy, and, if anyone was going to at least challenge Sess to that position, then it had to be better than Soares, sorry.
It wasn't a buy it was a loan I think?
He's not up to it unfortunately, like several of tony khans summer signings.
Even if Soares has supposed fitness (stamina) issues, at least as a specialist LB (the only one we have), I'd still be keen to see him start for 60 mins (freeing up Sess to plat further forward) and taking him off when tired. At least it would be a chance to see what he's got and if its enough for this league. Hopefully gives our team a better balance that has been missing since Malone went.
It's been a disappointing situation so far; I hope he gets - and takes - the opportunity to prove his pedigree. If he does then everyone's a winner.
Quote from: Chutney on November 27, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
He's not up to it unfortunately, like several of tony khans summer signings.
A classic example of the way this club is run by the Khans, and there has been a pattern of this kind of incompetence ever since they walked through the door.
If Soares isnt fit to start now, when will he be, you couldn't make it up, and because Jok appears to be deliberately overlooking and ignoring some players, then there appears to be a divide. Some are not his choice. Why is that, and if so, why is there a divide or a fracture.
Why did Kline orchestrate such a scene when he was stripped of his rank and sent back home.
That didn't just occur all of a sudden, that had been festering for quite a while.
It appears not to be a happy camp.
Why has there been complete and total silence since then. Far too many unanswered questions we may never know the answers.
Clearly the people who do know the facts have been sworn to silence.
That may or may not be the best policy, but what it does signify is that it's a major issue and goes far deeper than they care to admit.
Quote from: Chutney on November 27, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
He's not up to it unfortunately, like several of tony khans summer signings.
I think Jokanovic is quite brutal when it comes to selecting players. He seems to write off players without us fans seeing barely a minute of them.
I guess they aren't impressing him in training, but when we were struggling during October, that was surely the time to give the likes of Soares, Graham and Mollo a chance.
But what if they genuinely aren't fit enough? as MJG reported as the reason for Soares not starting.
But obviously, if this is the case, then we should expect to see Soares at least, before too long.
On TV last week I watched Soares play for the U23 s against Southampton
It is true that he had Jordan Graham in front of him on the left wing and Jordan was man of the match, but I did not notice Soares get involved at all, especially with wing runs.
Very disappointing with the build up he got when he arrived.
Despite his performance I do not think that Jordan would be an improvement on any of our other wingers due to his style.
Quote from: RaySmith on November 27, 2017, 06:43:03 AM
But what if they genuinely aren't fit enough? as MJG reported as the reason for Soares not starting.
But obviously, if this is the case, then we should expect to see Soares at least, before too long.
Who in their right mind signs a player who is not fit at the time, and three months later the player is still not match fit.
Brains of a Rocking Horse comes to mind.
