I put this question out to you and await your replys.
Lets just say that Joka either goes or gets sacked (myself i think he should be given time and to be backed up in the transfer market) whoi would pou have in. One name that comes to mind is Lee Johnson of bristol city to reasons for this firstly he is a young manager who i believe is going places, and the other fact is that he and his family all support fulham and his dad gary Johnson is seen at several games.
your thoughts please
I feel like we had this thread last week. Anyway I'd like Karanka or Oscar Garcia. A few people have said Montella which I would like but can't see happening.
Quote from: Allestree andy on December 20, 2017, 07:43:28 AM
I put this question out to you and await your replys.
Lets just say that Joka either goes or gets sacked (myself i think he should be given time and to be backed up in the transfer market) whoi would pou have in. One name that comes to mind is Lee Johnson of bristol city to reasons for this firstly he is a young manager who i believe is going places, and the other fact is that he and his family all support fulham and his dad gary Johnson is seen at several games.
your thoughts please
I think maybe Jok should be given until end of season, but just maybe.
But Lee Johnson would be a good shout. He is certainly a good motivator, and knows his way around the Championship.
Jocanovic should stay until the end of the season but fully in control of all team matters. The dilemma is how big a transfer budget to give him.
If he were to leave now then get Murphy in there quickly.
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
Jocanovic should stay until the end of the season but fully in control of all team matters. The dilemma is how big a transfer budget to give him.
If he were to leave now then get Murphy in there quickly.
Murphy? What experience does he offer us? We've done the inexperienced manager thing with Meulensteen and Symons and it didn't work either time. Why don't we employ Giggs while we are at it?
Quique Flores, ex-Watford manager would be a great option if we could get him. Rumours on another thread re: Espanyol looking at Joka so could do a swap :)
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on December 20, 2017, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
Jocanovic should stay until the end of the season but fully in control of all team matters. The dilemma is how big a transfer budget to give him.
If he were to leave now then get Murphy in there quickly.
Murphy? What experience does he offer us? We've done the inexperienced manager thing with Meulensteen and Symons and it didn't work either time. Why don't we employ Giggs while we are at it?
Quique Flores, ex-Watford manager would be a great option if we could get him. Rumours on another thread re: Espanyol looking at Joka so could do a swap :)
Agree I wouldn't want Murphy, Flores a great shout but don't think he would manager in Champ.
Also not sure Johnson would leave Bristol for us.
Nigel Clough?
As I have said on the thread the other day, I'd like a gamble on Graham Potter.
Danny Cowley taken Lincoln from bottom of National to win it,great FA cup run last season and now has them up top of league 2...Great motivator apparently and headed for the top imo..
Potter a good shout as well.
Curbishley and Wilkins
As we never know who is being looked at as a replacement I can think of nobody at all I would want instead of Joka until it happens. With the start we have had there would now be no point in changing the Coach. He has until the end of the season to prove he is still into Fulham and can make them tick. The rest of the management have the same thing to prove.
Quote from: Keynsham on December 20, 2017, 01:32:31 PM
Curbishley and Wilkins
Absolutely, they deserve one more chance.😈
Jim , Wilkins ? You avin a laugh !
I like Johnson but how many of us would have swapped him last year for Slav ?
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on December 20, 2017, 01:26:34 PM
As I have said on the thread the other day, I'd like a gamble on Graham Potter.
A month or so ago that might have been possible but there's no chance he's leaving Östersund before their games against Arsenal. At least not to a struggling Championship club.
I do not think he is being sacked so this is purely in the theoretical circumstances that he leaves to go and do Serbia national team for the 2018 World Cup or Espanyol, one is an outside chance and the other is pure 2+2=5 conjecture.
Lee Johnson will not leave Bristol City for us, they just qualified for a League Cup semi and he is enjoying what he does so why would he? They just had 27,000 at Ashton Gate and its a lovely city...
I would hope that Khan is a bit better prepared than the committee of 5 old men he went for last time but how can you be ready with a back up plan when the good coaches are in work? So that means sadly Stuart Gray as temporary manager and potentially we go through the classic new coach bounce, win a few games and the next thing is they give him the job until the summer when they recruit the next real Coach. Last time he didnt get the bounce but this time he might as the problems are more straighforward and easy to see - playing people in the wrong positions, cutting off your nose to spite you face stubborness so maybe Gray would get the bounce after all.
I would like to see a good manager from the lower leagues given a chance like Chris Wilder was at Sheff Utd or a young number 2 at a bigger club, an Eddie Howe, Sean Dyche but who are they? I am not sure if anyone on here knows: Paul Cook at Wigan has been around, Nathan Jones at Luton same thing, hardly going to set the Fulham Faithful on fire with excitement yet both are leading their divisions with limited resources. Graham Potter maybe is interested in moving back to UK and we would be a good level for him but he would only move I assume once their Europa League cup run is done but thats not before the end of January.
Montella has a slim Fulham connection and had done good things in Italy at Samp and Inter but he also has been fired twice. He might be a good shout. I would prefer him to Karanka whose Boro were atrocious to watch.
Like I said, aint going to happen...
Is there much appetite for Paul Clement on here?
It's gone a bit tits up this season but I'd be quite up for him. Also had the Fulham connection which is always nice.
Was a tad" tits up" at Derby too- perhaps just a good assistant?
It's a myth that Karankas Boro team played poor football --- In the prem he adapted his style to accommodate a more defensive approach yes but his Boro side with Bamford,Vossen,Kike in the championship played some of the best football champs ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPTfTSbHuf4
Watch this.
I wouldn't want someone like Karanka managing Fulham, in any shape or form.
Why not? He's got that ever so important championship experience, he has been promoted and the football they played in their promotion season was good.
This puts him at least on a par with our current incumbent. Not that I think he should be going anywhere of course.
Because it will be out of the frying pan into the fire. One reason is his poor man management skills.There are other reasons, but that one for me cancels out any reason any half decent club would want him. I expect somebody will love him somewhere. But Fulham FC would be going backwards with him, although the individuals running this club are daft enough if we had a vacancy to consider him.
There are better qualified managers/coaches out there, and if Jok did part company, the club needs to really think and prepare before they make their choice.
An interesting perspective, cheers for coming back to me.
Quote from: Keynsham on December 22, 2017, 01:54:13 PM
An interesting perspective, cheers for coming back to me.
My pleasure, and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 🍺
Quote from: Keynsham on December 22, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Why not? He's got that ever so important championship experience, he has been promoted and the football they played in their promotion season was good.
This puts him at least on a par with our current incumbent. Not that I think he should be going anywhere of course.
Agree. However champ experience is a myth, When Karanka first came in did he have champ experience? No. Does Nuno the best manager in the leauge have champ experience? No. When Slavisa took Watford up did he have champ experience? A good manager is a good manager.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 22, 2017, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: Keynsham on December 22, 2017, 01:54:13 PM
An interesting perspective, cheers for coming back to me.
My pleasure, and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 🍺]
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Quote from: @jolslover on December 22, 2017, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: Keynsham on December 22, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Why not? He's got that ever so important championship experience, he has been promoted and the football they played in their promotion season was good.
This puts him at least on a par with our current incumbent. Not that I think he should be going anywhere of course.
Agree. However champ experience is a myth, When Karanka first came in did he have champ experience? No. Does Nuno the best manager in the leauge have champ experience? No. When Slavisa took Watford up did he have champ experience? A good manager is a good manager.
Hey....
Don't tell anyone, but.... I know.... :dft003:
Quote from: @jolslover on December 22, 2017, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: Keynsham on December 22, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Why not? He's got that ever so important championship experience, he has been promoted and the football they played in their promotion season was good.
This puts him at least on a par with our current incumbent. Not that I think he should be going anywhere of course.
Agree. However champ experience is a myth, When Karanka first came in did he have champ experience? No. Does Nuno the best manager in the leauge have champ experience? No. When Slavisa took Watford up did he have champ experience? A good manager is a good manager.
Did'nt Slav join the Watford party really late, start with a run of defeats, get turned over by a player delegation, scrape home by a couple of points behind Bournemouth and then depart with the fans blessings? He still only has a few months where things seems to have to worked out from what, three years? A good manager is indeed a good manager but the former two are proving or have proved it.
Who are the Managers who get teams up regularly from this league, hate to say it but Warnock, Bruce even McCarthy. Don't like their style of football but they do know the this league and do get teams up!
:xmas bell:
On that depressing note- Happy Christmas to all.
Di Matteo but i dont want him out
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on December 22, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
Who are the Managers who get teams up regularly from this league, hate to say it but Warnock, Bruce even McCarthy. Don't like their style of football but they do know the this league and do get teams up!
:xmas bell:
Mick Mccarthy got teams out of the leauge about 6 years ago, Plays poor football at Ipswich and their fans hate him!. Football especially the championship changes very quickly. 6 years ago the champ was completely different to today.
I rate Neil Warnock and not particularly Steve Bruce as football is poor but he does grind out results.
It depends what you look for when you go to watch football to be honest, I'd like to see us try and play good entertaining football and dont mind seeing us draw/lose a few games along the way, But some like to see target man football or grinding out results with a solid defence. Neither is wrong or right. Just varying opinions
I think we could give old Felix another chance,bless him.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on December 22, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
Who are the Managers who get teams up regularly from this league, hate to say it but Warnock, Bruce even McCarthy. Don't like their style of football but they do know the this league and do get teams up!
:xmas bell:
McCarthy's last promotion - 2009
Warnock's last promotion - 2011
Bruce's last promotion - 2016
Neil Warnock looks like he can do it again this season, as his magic wand seems to be waving well across the border.
