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Title: AK47 unleashing
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on January 02, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
AK47 may finally be coming good. Pure and raw talent from the lad. He should have had 3 tonight. Excellent play from him and he finally is fitting in with the system. 6 goals this season and long may he continue scoring. The next Barry Hayles for us?
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: filham on January 02, 2018, 09:55:15 PM
Most of us have been saying that our top priority is a new striker, well I think we will have to start thinking of a transfer fee above £10m if we are going to get one better than Kamara.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on January 02, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: filham on January 02, 2018, 09:55:15 PM
Most of us have been saying that our top priority is a new striker, well I think we will have to start thinking of a transfer fee above £10m if we are going to get one better than Kamara.

It is a tough scenario and proposition. Could AK's form take a dire turn for the worst in February if we overlook a striker because they cost too much? If we should buy a replacement striker, and they are equally as dire and we bench AK while his momentum is on the up-and-up, do we risk alienation and decreased dividends on his end? I think we most certainly need a new striker, because Rui is very much not what we are looking for in that role, however, AK should not lose his place to a new player should he keep plugging goals away. 
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: NogoodBoyo on January 02, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
Actually, he could have had 4.  Don't forget the fizzer from Kebano on the left which he missed in the first half from two yards out; he seemed torn between a diving header and a right-footed glider.  And his hat-trick chance in the 89th.  He won't get many better chances.  But the great news for Fulham is that he works hard, he gets into good positions and is prepared to give it a go.  Those sort of strikers get goals
Nogood "no hiding, see" Boyo
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on January 02, 2018, 10:02:28 PM
As supporters, we've become far too impatient with new players acclimatizing to both the club and, in Kamara's case the country as well. I've said it before but, I recall being lightly chastised early in my time with FFC for expecting too much too soon....reminded that it can sometimes take a full season for players to reach their potential in a new league/new club.

Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: bobby01 on January 02, 2018, 10:10:49 PM
He really wants to do well and is getting better and better. He was involved in most of the attacks tonight. Still raw but with that power and pace and some good coaching we could have a gem on our hands.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: colinwhite on January 02, 2018, 10:13:33 PM
Credit where it is due.  hes done very well in the last 2 games and long may it continue ,but still think we need another striker.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: General on January 02, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
He's now our second highest goalscorer after tonight - second only to Sessegnon with 7 and 6 goals respectively.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: One Martin Thomas on January 02, 2018, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: General on January 02, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
He's now our second highest goalscorer after tonight - second only to Sessegnon with 7 and 6 goals respectively.

Amazing when you consider Sess is 17 and is also sometimes playing at LB . Nice one AK47.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Bassey the warrior on January 02, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
Long may it continue. But we'd be foolhardy not to bring in another striker this window. He could be a streaky player and find it hard to score again for a while once he runs out of form.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: thebumponleroyshead on January 02, 2018, 10:54:05 PM
So pleased as his attitude is first rate he ostensibly won or should that be swung the game by tackling fairly but also letting the town player know he was there, that's what drew the petulance and the ensuing storm Eleanor of goals. Thank you ak47 for making 2018 so far!!! Coysw
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Twig on January 02, 2018, 11:28:08 PM
Quote from: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.

WUM alert
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: @jolslover on January 02, 2018, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.

Disagree.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: BarneyTravers on January 03, 2018, 12:39:00 AM
He'd be in my Fulham 2017-18 team every week till someone comes in better.

coyw


Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: ThisIsntAJok on January 03, 2018, 03:18:56 AM
Quote from: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.

He strikes me as very much a confidence player. Was late to balls in the box in the first half, but after his first, he was a constant threat, and took his second well. He has the physical attributes, and at 22, there is still time for him to work on his positioning and technique. An experienced proven striker is definitely still needed this month to challenge him and force him to improve.

I don't disagree though, before these last two games I have been very unimpressed with him.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Matt10 on January 03, 2018, 03:46:00 AM
He's fantastic. Big presence, pacey as all knows it, and can finish. The only thing he needs to work on is honing in on that shot to goal ratio. Right now he's due a goal every 5 shots, and he needs to get that to 3, then to 2. He's young, and my goodness, boys, he's going to go places - let's not take him for granted at all.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: New Kid on the Block on January 03, 2018, 05:36:11 AM
I'm gonna temper my excitement about him, for the moment.

I've not been at all impressed with him so far. Yes, it's great he's scoring goals, but he does miss some good opportunities that other strikers would put away. For a 'big unit', he spends more time on the ground than any other Fulham player.

Still need to buy another striker, in my opinion, if for no other reason, than he gets injured.

Having said all that, keep scoring goals AK.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Arthur on January 03, 2018, 06:32:01 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on January 03, 2018, 03:46:00 AM
Right now he's due a goal every 5 shots, and he needs to get that to 3, then to 2.

That's asking something. Malcolm MacDonald, who found the back of the net more times than most strikers do in their careers, used to say that given six chances to score, he would guarantee a goal. Now I know this didn't mean that he would only score one-goal-in-six (doubtless, there were many times that he bagged more), but even so, I can't imagine that very many high-scoring strikers take 50% of their chances.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: hovewhite on January 03, 2018, 06:46:42 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on January 02, 2018, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.

Disagree.
Harsh and unfair!
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Whitesideup on January 03, 2018, 07:30:44 AM
Quote from: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.
I agree with those saying this is harsh and unfair.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: snarks on January 03, 2018, 08:14:11 AM
Quote from: howitis on January 02, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
I can't quite believe what I'm reading. The man is absolutely hopeless and is overall performance tonight was poor.
Has no idea positionally and is often an obstruction to our forward movement. To those with an eager eye, his pot movement was often ignored by our more creative players and he was often on his heels and slow to react when balls were flashed across the box.
He is not the answer now or ever and we need to replace him and Fonte to have any chance of promotion this or any season.

I don't disagree with all you say, I do think he should be in the box more than he is, and his first touch isn't always great, but he works hard and puts himself about which defenders don't like. His pace is frightening but he does need to do better with the chances he gets. I'd still rather have him than Chris Martin any day.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 03, 2018, 08:20:56 AM
He's talented but raw. He will develop this year and next. He can be good for us but it's unfair to expect him to shoot us into the play offs this season. We need another striker.

What I am liking about him is he is getting into poisitions in the Box where he now more often receives the ball and can take a shot at goal. Yes he misses some, but we have been really lacking someone who gets on the end of moves and crosses.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: [email protected] on January 03, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
This is my first post on here. I have been a season ticket holder since 2001/02 season and I have been an avid reader for the last  two years, I finally decided to take the plunge and put my first post.

I find the situation with Kamara a strange one. He seems as though he has all the physical attributes needed to be a success in this league (mainly outrageous pace and strength) but I do wonder sometimes if he has the finesse to operate in our current set-up. But the flip side to that is that on appearance, Fonte looks to have more finesse and a touch of class about him, but for whatever reason, can't seem to score.

With Kamara though, he appears to be a bit 'bull in a china shop'. You just never know what you are going to get from him. Most of the time when he shoots, I think "this is either going to fly-in or end up in row Z". He has showed his moments of magic, his goal against Forest showed good composure to dummy the diving defender, but then he also has his rash moments, I think it was the Middlesborough game where he blazed his shot over from just inside the penalty box.

As a defender, Kamara must be a nightmare to play against. Do you drop deep, knowing that even if you give him 10 yards, he is probably going to out sprint you? But by doing this, you provide more space for the likes of Johansen, Cairney to operate in? Or do you play a high-line, taking the risk that he might get in behind but you take the risk knowing that he can be erratic? I think those are good questions to be asking of our opposition and something we haven't done for a while.

I think at the moment it's best to support him whilst he is riding the wave, as mentioned before, he does seem a confidence player and perhaps as the team is starting to click again, he is benefiting from that. Having a fully fit Cairney and Johansen is only going to help Kamara get better, but I still think another striker in the transfer window is a must.

Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: toshes mate on January 03, 2018, 08:58:09 AM
Quote from: Statto on January 02, 2018, 10:03:49 PM
He has explosive pace and massive strength. At this level that's enough, as the younger Dembele demonstrated, albeit Dembele was neither as fast nor as strong as AK47. He can finesse his touch and finishing with time.
Agree.  I feel that at the moment he is still trying to impress rather than to simply relax and let things come to him naturally.  The first half chance he missed from a few yards out he seemed caught in two minds.  He is going to be an even bigger handful for defences when he improves his touch and his movement is more controlled and thoughtful.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: toshes mate on January 03, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: Godalming White on January 03, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
This is my first post on here. I have been a season ticket holder since 2001/02 season and I have been an avid reader for the last  two years, I finally decided to take the plunge and put my first post.

I find the situation with Kamara a strange one. He seems as though he has all the physical attributes needed to be a success in this league (mainly outrageous pace and strength) but I do wonder sometimes if he has the finesse to operate in our current set-up. But the flip side to that is that on appearance, Fonte looks to have more finesse and a touch of class about him, but for whatever reason, can't seem to score.

With Kamara though, he appears to be a bit 'bull in a china shop'. You just never know what you are going to get from him. Most of the time when he shoots, I think "this is either going to fly-in or end up in row Z". He has showed his moments of magic, his goal against Forest showed good composure to dummy the diving defender, but then he also has his rash moments, I think it was the Middlesborough game where he blazed his shot over from just inside the penalty box.

As a defender, Kamara must be a nightmare to play against. Do you drop deep, knowing that even if you give him 10 yards, he is probably going to out sprint you? But by doing this, you provide more space for the likes of Johansen, Cairney to operate in? Or do you play a high-line, taking the risk that he might get in behind but you take the risk knowing that he can be erratic? I think those are good questions to be asking of our opposition and something we haven't done for a while.

I think at the moment it's best to support him whilst he is riding the wave, as mentioned before, he does seem a confidence player and perhaps as the team is starting to click again, he is benefiting from that. Having a fully fit Cairney and Johansen is only going to help Kamara get better, but I still think another striker in the transfer window is a must.



Terrific first post. Welcome.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: jojo1990 on January 03, 2018, 09:05:48 AM
I think Kamara has everything to be a good striker. He has the Pace and the Power. He just Needs to work on his finishing. But his still very Young and have time to get better. Hes on the right way and i think he deserves the Chance. He allready managed more Goals then Scott Hogan and Chris Martin.

COYW!
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 03, 2018, 09:52:35 AM
While Kamara is on song and has his scoring boots on, it's probably best to keep playing him, for his sake and ours. No time for resting these players, they can do that after the month of May.
Title: Re: AK47 unleashing
Post by: Carborundum on January 03, 2018, 10:05:54 AM
Quote from: Godalming White on January 03, 2018, 08:31:36 AM

As a defender, Kamara must be a nightmare to play against. Do you drop deep, knowing that even if you give him 10 yards, he is probably going to out sprint you? But by doing this, you provide more space for the likes of Johansen, Cairney to operate in? Or do you play a high-line, taking the risk that he might get in behind but you take the risk knowing that he can be erratic? I think those are good questions to be asking of our opposition and something we haven't done for a while.

Spot on.  Play him every game, because defenders hate dilemmas like this.