Hammersmith end, just a few at the front and a few restricted views left
Riverside sold out
Putney end sold out
Johnny Haynes, restricted views left, of which there are a few but a few hundred max.
Could completely sell out, could be our biggest crowd since the Premier days.
Be lovely to hit 25k. I'd take a draw given they'll make the Putney sound like the Holte. But their run will end, some of their more humble fans realize this and know it may be at the hands of the ball players by the Thames. COYW get into 'em.
I think a lot depends on how much influence Cairney and Mitro have. If they were both 100% I think we take them, if not we still could.
Quote from: FulhamStu on February 14, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
I think a lot depends on how much influence Cairney and Mitro have. If they were both 100% I think we take them, if not we still could.
Cairney could be critical for us, he can turn a game single handed on his day. But I haven't seen anything to suggest Mitro can have a critical influence. In fact i'm Not even sure I would start with him. He's slow and would play into JT's ageing hands, I would prefer we utilised pace up front which possibly means AK?
Quote from: Twig on February 14, 2018, 03:34:16 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on February 14, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
I think a lot depends on how much influence Cairney and Mitro have. If they were both 100% I think we take them, if not we still could.
Cairney could be critical for us, he can turn a game single handed on his day. But I haven't seen anything to suggest Mitro can have a critical influence. In fact i'm Not even sure I would start with him. He's slow and would play into JT's ageing hands, I would prefer we utilised pace up front which possibly means AK?
That's why I said if 100% fit. If Mitro is not up to speed I would start Fonte, then replace with Kamara.
Cairney gives us control in a game and can unlock a defence better than anyone else we have. I doubt he will be 100% either but agree with you, he is our main differentiator and will be vital to a successful run in. This Villa game may have come a few weeks too early for both Cairney and Mitro but again, I agree Cairney is more important than Mitro for me as well, Mitro has got to prove his worth for sure.
Quote from: Twig on February 14, 2018, 03:34:16 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on February 14, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
I think a lot depends on how much influence Cairney and Mitro have. If they were both 100% I think we take them, if not we still could.
Cairney could be critical for us, he can turn a game single handed on his day. But I haven't seen anything to suggest Mitro can have a critical influence. In fact i'm Not even sure I would start with him. He's slow and would play into JT's ageing hands, I would prefer we utilised pace up front which possibly means AK?
think AK could be our potent weapon backed up by a fit TC.
Quote from: FulhamStu on February 14, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
I think a lot depends on how much influence Cairney and Mitro have. If they were both 100% I think we take them, if not we still could.
Mitro has had his two games to settle in, pressure is on him for a performance and a goal now.
Cairney is a mystery, we have been told little about his injury and we are not sure if he is fully fit or whether we are just
testing the water again with another short run out.
We need a fully fit Cairney back in the team and if this is not available for a while we may do better to settle for the solid and reliable Norwood. Similarly if Mitrovic cannot produce a top showing we should settle for Kamara.
No room now for those who cannot give 100%.
Oh, the gate , yes should be the biggest of the season , plenty of loud Villa fans and I suspect that there will be a good sprinkling of Terry fans prepared to make the journey from the other end of the Fulham Road.
Was Looking at the Wolves game and it looks like it's going in the same direction.The numbers this year have held up well generally and making our friends down the road suffer in their attendances. Love it.Does anyone know when next season prices will be announced?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 14, 2018, 07:01:53 PM
Was Looking at the Wolves game and it looks like it's going in the same direction.The numbers this year have held up well generally and making our friends down the road suffer in their attendances. Love it.Does anyone know when next season prices will be announced?
It would make sense for the club to hang on for a while before announcing next season's ticket prices. If the Premiership is still a possibility in April they could add 10% to the price without loss of ticket sales.
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2018, 06:28:11 PM
Agree this is a game for Kamara
Villa will come forward, try and press us when we have the ball and throw people forward when they have the ball. with an elderly John Terry at the back that's asking for trouble, and AK47 is just the man to bring it to them
save fonte for the teams like burton who sit deep and need careful unlocking
OK that's my dream all set up for Friday night , Kamara leaving Terry standing as he scores a first half hat trick.
It will be good to see and hear a big crowd at Craven Cottage for another of many a big game as we progress toward the business end of 2017/18. It feels good to be involved in the fight for a top six finish in February with a team that hasn't repeated the up-down form of last season but has found a way of improving upon its points return if not the choreographed brilliance of a year ago. All I hope for are the same small improvements this team have had throughout 2017/18. They key will be, as ever, the midfield dynamics and I am pretty sure we will see at least one surprise starter tomorrow. I don't worry about Villa but I do expect them to worry about us.
Quote from: toshes mate on February 16, 2018, 07:35:26 AM
It will be good to see and hear a big crowd at Craven Cottage for another of many a big game as we progress toward the business end of 2017/18. It feels good to be involved in the fight for a top six finish in February with a team that hasn't repeated the up-down form of last season but has found a way of improving upon its points return if not the choreographed brilliance of a year ago. All I hope for are the same small improvements this team have had throughout 2017/18. They key will be, as ever, the midfield dynamics and I am pretty sure we will see at least one surprise starter tomorrow. I don't worry about Villa but I do expect them to worry about us.
The trouble is we are only going to hear the 6000 Villa supporters, I sit in Putney end and you just do not hear anything from Hammersmith, but i am sure they give their all for the cause.
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Quote from: toshes mate on February 16, 2018, 07:35:26 AM
It will be good to see and hear a big crowd at Craven Cottage
The trouble is we are only going to hear the 6000 Villa supporters, I sit in Putney end and you just do not hear anything from Hammersmith, but i am sure they give their all for the cause.
I absolutely agree and my one regret is that FFC haven't found a solution to carrying the sound of the Hammy End to at least match the Putney End acoustics. I have mentioned this on other threads and really do not believe it would cost bucketloads for the Club to improve it. Over a season it would probably be worth a handful of points to us and they may prove priceless in a close run in.
I sit in Johnny Haynes bang in middle never hear Hammersmith just Putney usual chants of is this a library blah blah blah
Would be nice if we could make some noise tomorrow, it's contagious the more noise the more others join in, think back to the Euro days.
It's seems odd that more people join in with the singing at away games even though it's the same people. There are always exceptions, there are two guys that sit near me who never get even slightly animated regardless of who we are playing and how important the game is. COYWs
It's time all Fulham fans tomorrow make a proper racket all round the ground, yes a proper RACKET, after all it is our patch not theirs.
Come on don't be shy, be passionate be noisy be up for it, it's worth a goal start to players.
Anyone caught not making any noise should be fined between £100 and £1,000 depending on how quiet you are, and that includes you, yes that's right especially YOU 👉 👈 👇 🖕
I cannot wait. Am exercising my vocal chords by pretending that Sir Knickerless Clegg has invited himself into my house for an evening meal. COYW :yay: :yay: :clap_hands: :clap_hands: 049:gif 049:gif
Thank you and good night
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I cannot wait. Am exercising my vocal chords by pretending that Sir Knickerless Clegg has invited himself into my house for an evening meal. COYW :yay: :yay: :clap_hands: :clap_hands: 049:gif 049:gif
Thank you and good night
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That's a slightly disturbing image!
Quote from: toshes mate on February 16, 2018, 11:54:21 AM
Quote from: alfie on February 16, 2018, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 16, 2018, 07:35:26 AM
It will be good to see and hear a big crowd at Craven Cottage
The trouble is we are only going to hear the 6000 Villa supporters, I sit in Putney end and you just do not hear anything from Hammersmith, but i am sure they give their all for the cause.
I absolutely agree and my one regret is that FFC haven't found a solution to carrying the sound of the Hammy End to at least match the Putney End acoustics. I have mentioned this on other threads and really do not believe it would cost bucketloads for the Club to improve it. Over a season it would probably be worth a handful of points to us and they may prove priceless in a close run in.
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Can we please stop this absolute nonsense please, the abysmal atmosphere at Craven Cottage has got nothing to do with acoustics, or the roof or the gaps to the side of the stand, but everything to do with the 4000 people that inhabit it,
We are not pi**ed up, vocal, vociferous supporters, never have been , never will be,
The last home game against Forest must rank as an all time low, you couldn't hear The Hammersmith End for the first 70 minutes , they might as well have all stayed at home,
Huddersfield v Bournemouth last weekend was rocking, even though all their 4 stands are miles apart from each other, the difference between them and us was that they had thousands of Yorkshire men stood up for 90 minutes making an effort,
If anybody on here thinks I'm wrong and wants to try and defend our abysmal support, I have a challenge for you, when the game kicks off tomorrow stay standing, outstretch your arms and bellow out "come on you Whites" , I guarantee within a minute people are screaming at you to sit down (and shut up basically) it's the nature of football life in SW6 sadly.
Sssshh 💤
I do hope we keep the noise down tomorrow afternoon. I really can't stand the loud rabble putting me off my prawn sandwiches.
The gin bar tends to engender a lackadaisical zealousness, what what.
I'm calling for a double booking for Terry and Mitro, no way those two will give up an inch to each other.
Never like the fact that the away end stands throughout the game, I'm sure standing makes for a better support.
Not that I'm saying the ultra style loudspeaker-guy-at-the-front would necessarily work as English, and particularly Fulhamish self deprecating organic chants don't exist when being dictated to, but it works great in Europe. Palace and Huddersfield are examples have shown this to work. I'm not saying copy the chants of one leader but stand up hammy for bleeds sake for the biggest game so far. I don't get it personally, if you used your legs to get to your seat you can distribute the weight from right to left for 45 mins surely? If you want to sit the other stands are available. Apologies to all those who'd rather sit and stand 27 times in a half, which is the current option that some people pay good money at virgin active for. :010:
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Quote from: bog on February 16, 2018, 04:22:55 PM
I cannot wait. Am exercising my vocal chords by pretending that Sir Knickerless Clegg has invited himself into my house for an evening meal. COYW :yay: :yay: :clap_hands: :clap_hands: 049:gif 049:gif
Thank you and good night
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That's a slightly disturbing image!
Isn't it just!
In my 43 years of following London's oldest team the loudest I have ever heard our supporters roar the team to victory (and it was a roar) was against tomorrow's opponents dear neighbours Birmingham City in May 2008...they did not keep on singing til the end of the road because it was drowned out by the vociferous Fulham support.
COYW
Presumably tomorrow sees the return of the charming ticket touts?
I had to buy a ticket from a tout to attend my first Fulham game. Opening day to Man City in 1999.
Quote from: SP on February 16, 2018, 11:37:44 PM
Presumably tomorrow sees the return of the charming ticket touts?
I wonder how many Half season tickets were purchased by them.Not sure what the club could do about it?
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on February 16, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
Never like the fact that the away end stands throughout the game, I'm sure standing makes for a better support.
We are standing at our away games and we are quit loud.
Safe standing at the Cottage and I promise you atmosphere.
Quote from: Riversider on February 16, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
Can we please stop this absolute nonsense
As Alice said 'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense'. There is one simple nonsensical problem which perhaps you can explain - the goal roar from, let us say, 25% of a Craven Cottage gate is almost as loud (in dBs) as the same roar from the remaining 75% (less neutrals etc) when recorded by media equipment located midway above the Riverside Stand. In essence the latter should be significantly louder (all things being equal) even if only just over a third of those actually cheer a goal. The acoustics at the Cottage favour the Putney End for reason that are pretty obvious when you look at a plan of the ground.
Quote from: BarneyTravers on February 16, 2018, 09:54:59 PM
In my 43 years of following London's oldest team the loudest I have ever heard our supporters roar the team to victory (and it was a roar) was against tomorrow's opponents dear neighbours Birmingham City in May 2008...they did not keep on singing til the end of the road because it was drowned out by the vociferous Fulham support.
COYW
:plus one: I was there and agree COYW!
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Quote from: toshes mate on February 17, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: Riversider on February 16, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
Can we please stop this absolute nonsense
As Alice said 'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense'. There is one simple nonsensical problem which perhaps you can explain - the goal roar from, let us say, 25% of a Craven Cottage gate is almost as loud (in dBs) as the same roar from the remaining 75% (less neutrals etc) when recorded by media equipment located midway above the Riverside Stand. In essence the latter should be significantly louder (all things being equal) even if only just over a third of those actually cheer a goal. The acoustics at the Cottage favour the Putney End for reason that are pretty obvious when you look at a plan of the ground.
Even more nonsense 😦
Why not just accept that we just don't have a vocal support ? I sit in Block S of The Riverside and I said before, against Forest you couldn't hear The Hammersmith End for the first 70 minutes, nothing to do with the roof nothing to do with the acoustics but everything to do with the 4000 inhabitants that frequent it,
It's not a complaint, it's not even a gripe, it's an observation that our support isn't very good, if support was worth a goal (which luckily it isn't) we would be starting today's game 1 Nil down.
I agree acoustics in a football ground 😂 absolute utter rubbish lets get real here for a minute our support is quiet get over it saying it's due to acoustics etc is even more embarrassing I've sat in the Hammersmith sounded quiet I've sat in Johnny Haynes sounded quiet sat in riverside sounded quiet yet putneys loud in each of these places get over it sorry
Quote from: Riversider on February 17, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 17, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: Riversider on February 16, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
Can we please stop this absolute nonsense
As Alice said 'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense'. There is one simple nonsensical problem which perhaps you can explain - the goal roar from, let us say, 25% of a Craven Cottage gate is almost as loud (in dBs) as the same roar from the remaining 75% (less neutrals etc) when recorded by media equipment located midway above the Riverside Stand. In essence the latter should be significantly louder (all things being equal) even if only just over a third of those actually cheer a goal. The acoustics at the Cottage favour the Putney End for reason that are pretty obvious when you look at a plan of the ground.
Even more nonsense 😦
Why not just accept that we just don't have a vocal support ? I sit in Block S of The Riverside and I said before, against Forest you couldn't hear The Hammersmith End for the first 70 minutes, nothing to do with the roof nothing to do with the acoustics but everything to do with the 4000 inhabitants that frequent it,
It's not a complaint, it's not even a gripe, it's an observation that our support isn't very good, if support was worth a goal (which luckily it isn't) we would be starting today's game 1 Nil down.
I seem to recall that the club looked into this. It did seem to come down to the fact that we had a hardcore of singers but they sit at the back of the Hammersmith and whilst it can sound loud near them, unless half the Hammersmith or the JH join in, it doesn't really carry. Of course, when the Hammersmith and JH join, it can get pretty good on those occasions. I have sat in the Riverside twice in 40 years (3 if you include a box once for my birthday). The first was a cup game against swindon when I was so cold it was horrible and the other, last season, when the only noise I heard was the occasional grumbling and boos at halftime.
I can't think of any/many grounds when there isn't a few moments when all parts of the home grounds have a bit of a sing-song. Norwich fans (many of a certain age) will have a go at "On the ball City" a few times every game and it can get the team going.
The fact that the Riverside is right next to the most vocal of away fans does kinda pander to the archetypal view of a FFC fan (which is very unfair)
The Hammersmith End is a Deeper than the Putney End and according to an Acoustic study has an adverse effect.Considering most of the vocal supporters are at the back it obviously doesn't help.
Quote from: BedsFFC on February 17, 2018, 10:35:50 AM
Quote from: Riversider on February 17, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 17, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: Riversider on February 16, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
Can we please stop this absolute nonsense
As Alice said 'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense'. There is one simple nonsensical problem which perhaps you can explain - the goal roar from, let us say, 25% of a Craven Cottage gate is almost as loud (in dBs) as the same roar from the remaining 75% (less neutrals etc) when recorded by media equipment located midway above the Riverside Stand. In essence the latter should be significantly louder (all things being equal) even if only just over a third of those actually cheer a goal. The acoustics at the Cottage favour the Putney End for reason that are pretty obvious when you look at a plan of the ground.
Even more nonsense 😦
Why not just accept that we just don't have a vocal support ? I sit in Block S of The Riverside and I said before, against Forest you couldn't hear The Hammersmith End for the first 70 minutes, nothing to do with the roof nothing to do with the acoustics but everything to do with the 4000 inhabitants that frequent it,
It's not a complaint, it's not even a gripe, it's an observation that our support isn't very good, if support was worth a goal (which luckily it isn't) we would be starting today's game 1 Nil down.
I seem to recall that the club looked into this. It did seem to come down to the fact that we had a hardcore of singers but they sit at the back of the Hammersmith and whilst it can sound loud near them, unless half the Hammersmith or the JH join in, it doesn't really carry. Of course, when the Hammersmith and JH join, it can get pretty good on those occasions. I have sat in the Riverside twice in 40 years (3 if you include a box once for my birthday). The first was a cup game against swindon when I was so cold it was horrible and the other, last season, when the only noise I heard was the occasional grumbling and boos at halftime.
I can't think of any/many grounds when there isn't a few moments when all parts of the home grounds have a bit of a sing-song. Norwich fans (many of a certain age) will have a go at "On the ball City" a few times every game and it can get the team going.
The fact that the Riverside is right next to the most vocal of away fans does kinda pander to the archetypal view of a FFC fan (which is very unfair)
Block S couldn't be any closer to The Hammersmith End if it tried.
Quote from: irishfulham on February 17, 2018, 08:56:47 AM
I agree acoustics in a football ground 😂 absolute utter rubbish lets get real here for a minute our support is quiet get over it saying it's due to acoustics etc is even more embarrassing I've sat in the Hammersmith sounded quiet I've sat in Johnny Haynes sounded quiet sat in riverside sounded quiet yet putneys loud in each of these places get over it sorry
Exactly, well said 👏👏👏⚫⚪⚽️⚫⚪👍
We must all find our voices today, we cannot let the Villians take over our ground on or off the pitch. It does not matter how many they bring, we have more support and should drown them out, but if we sit on our hands then we only have ourselves to blame.
If we can win the battle off the pitch, it should help the Fulham players on the pitch.
We all have to play our part.
Why not get a little bit of canned chanting, we could even put th speaker right above the riverside and Putney. :005: we would have to find some voices chanting to record however :022:
Quote from: Riversider on February 17, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 17, 2018, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: Riversider on February 16, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
Can we please stop this absolute nonsense
As Alice said 'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense'. There is one simple nonsensical problem which perhaps you can explain - the goal roar from, let us say, 25% of a Craven Cottage gate is almost as loud (in dBs) as the same roar from the remaining 75% (less neutrals etc) when recorded by media equipment located midway above the Riverside Stand. In essence the latter should be significantly louder (all things being equal) even if only just over a third of those actually cheer a goal. The acoustics at the Cottage favour the Putney End for reason that are pretty obvious when you look at a plan of the ground.
Even more nonsense 😦
Why not just accept that we just don't have a vocal support ? I sit in Block S of The Riverside and I said before, against Forest you couldn't hear The Hammersmith End for the first 70 minutes, nothing to do with the roof nothing to do with the acoustics but everything to do with the 4000 inhabitants that frequent it,
It's not a complaint, it's not even a gripe, it's an observation that our support isn't very good, if support was worth a goal (which luckily it isn't) we would be starting today's game 1 Nil down.
Villa will fill the Putney end and every single one will stand and sing all game unless we can score early and shut them up. Hammersmith End has a tiny proportion of singers so it's no wonder they seem quieter. It's just the way it is.
That said I took a friend from overseas who is a regular attendee at Porto who's never been to the cottage to the notts forest game. We sat in the hammersmith end and his comments were 'great fans, great atmosphere, really great stadium'. And this from a team that has flag wavers and ultras leading chants (i always thought that a bit sad tbh) and I thought it seemed quite lively myself at that fixture to be honest. All a matter of perception I suppose,but the recent Cole Harman work recorded noise levels typical of any ground in the hammersmith end.
This atmosphere thing I don't get, one of my customers is a boro fan and I have got him a ticket in Putney end a few times and he's always remarked about the atmosphere that's generated by fulham fans,now I guess it could always be better still maybe a roof?
And as usual it didn't make a blind bit of difference the amount of fans are in the Putney end. It's about what happens on the pitch.
Quote from: MJG on February 17, 2018, 06:23:10 PM
And as usual it didn't make a blind bit of difference the amount of fans are in the Putney end. It's about what happens on the pitch.
And anyway, I thought we made some decent noise today. The atmosphere was fine.
Quote from: Twig on February 17, 2018, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 17, 2018, 06:23:10 PM
And as usual it didn't make a blind bit of difference the amount of fans are in the Putney end. It's about what happens on the pitch.
And anyway, I thought we made some decent noise today. The atmosphere was fine.
Likewise
Quote from: toshes mate on February 16, 2018, 11:54:21 AM
Quote from: alfie on February 16, 2018, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on February 16, 2018, 07:35:26 AM
It will be good to see and hear a big crowd at Craven Cottage
The trouble is we are only going to hear the 6000 Villa supporters, I sit in Putney end and you just do not hear anything from Hammersmith, but i am sure they give their all for the cause.
I absolutely agree and my one regret is that FFC haven't found a solution to carrying the sound of the Hammy End to at least match the Putney End acoustics. I have mentioned this on other threads and really do not believe it would cost bucketloads for the Club to improve it. Over a season it would probably be worth a handful of points to us and they may prove priceless in a close run in.
As I said earlier, complete and utter nonsense, great atmosphere today , same roof though, same acoustics, same gaps on the side, the only difference that I can was that we had 4000 + in The Hammersmith End that were bang up for it, long may it continue.
Great atmosphere today, long may it continue, COYWs
The Hammy End were brilliant today- thanks- almost got the Riverside going- same again for Wolves please.
Brilliant
Unfortunately my seat was empty, gutted. Looking forward to next Saturday.
