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Title: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: Whitesideup on February 17, 2018, 08:36:09 PM
Man U goal disallowed for offside after referral to VAR

I don't get it.

1) I thought VAR had to be referred when there was a clear problem. No matter which way you looked at it, there was no "obvious" mistake.

2) The decision was right. If the player was off-side, (and I don't think he was) it was by a matter of millimetres; for those who speak in old money, maybe an inch or two; decisions for off-side should not need advanced technology to narrow the decision to a such a narrow margin. 

3) It took ages. If you are over-ruling obvious mistakes, it should take a few seconds at most.

This doesn't mean that VAR can't work, but the incompetents running it now mean that it is poor and potentially very unfair.
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: fulhamben on February 17, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
I'm more worried that you think a couple of millimetres is an inch or two.  Bet youre hung like a 🐴 in your mind 😉
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: Whitesideup on February 17, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 17, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
I'm more worried that you think a couple of millimetres is an inch or two.  Bet youre hung like a 🐴 in your mind 😉

I am using "a couple" in its generic form, rather than the specific of two; maybe a little liberal with the interpretation extending to 20 or 30, but hey ho ...
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: HV71 on February 17, 2018, 08:57:57 PM
VAR SICAL !
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: YankeeJim on February 17, 2018, 09:36:33 PM
One of the few things that the NFL does right is instant replays. The review and the decision are made by off site people. They're quick and usually right. That way the ref team doesn't have the option of saving their embarrassment.
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: Whitesideup on February 17, 2018, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on February 17, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 17, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
I'm more worried that you think a couple of millimetres is an inch or two.  Bet youre hung like a 🐴 in your mind 😉

I am using "a couple" in its generic form, rather than the specific of two; maybe a little liberal with the interpretation extending to 20 or 30, but hey ho ...

Also, think of a couple in the sense of, " What do you mean dear? I've just been out for a couple of pints."

"But you've been gone for three days..."
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: Logicalman on February 17, 2018, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on February 17, 2018, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on February 17, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on February 17, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
I'm more worried that you think a couple of millimetres is an inch or two.  Bet youre hung like a 🐴 in your mind 😉

I am using "a couple" in its generic form, rather than the specific of two; maybe a little liberal with the interpretation extending to 20 or 30, but hey ho ...

Also, think of a couple in the sense of, " What do you mean dear? I've just been out for a couple of pints."

"But you've been gone for three days..."

Then that was a pretty good weekend, in my books  064.gif
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: HatterDon on February 18, 2018, 02:00:22 AM
I've said this before. In the Bundesliga, they've been using it all season long. It seldom takes longer than 15 seconds to get the VAR completed. The flow of the game isn't disturbed. In England, it's only been used for some FA Cup matches. Once it's established, it'll be almost unnoticable after a month.
Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: aaronmcguigan on February 18, 2018, 08:22:37 AM
is the long term goal of VAR to roll it out to the rich and cushty? Or is it only going to be for example cup competitions and premier league?
Do they actually think VAR can be rolled out to every ground in the land? Or will it just be the privileged few leagues or grounds?

Title: Re: NFR - VAR Farce
Post by: filham on February 18, 2018, 12:30:23 PM
Offside is difficult to get right , the problem being have ing to watch two or more players at the same instant, Over the years linesmen have done well and generally get it right.

You would think that a video replay would lead to an improvement but it became clear to me yesterday that the camera is in a fixed position and therefore often at an angle to the incident,.
If we are going to  use cameras to determine off sides they will have to be run up and down the touchline behind the lino, possibly mounted on rails.