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Title: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Southcoastffc on March 05, 2018, 09:09:42 AM
In all seriousness, it's a shame to see Arsene Wenger in such a situation, even if it's of his own making.  He has done a huge amount to bring 'the beautiful game' to the UK but he's long past his sell-by date now and is bringing mockery upon himself.  His latest unfathomable utterance:
"It's difficult to me to get into any negative assessment. The team needs more support at the moment. Tough objective judgement as well. When you struggle for confidence, it's difficult as well when you have just the trousers on...   It's easy to take the trousers off as well, but when you are naked completely you have to find a shirt and try to put it on again, get dressed normally again."
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: RaySmith on March 05, 2018, 09:12:42 AM
These fans of top teams are a joke - so  full of feelings of entitlement.

Wenger has done a great job for them in the past, and even this season - imagine if it was Fulham in Arsenal's position.

Arsenal fans don't know they're born.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: grandad on March 05, 2018, 09:14:31 AM
Sad to see a great manager become a laughing stock. He should have retired gracefully at the end of last season.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 05, 2018, 09:16:26 AM
Next manager of Everton?
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Andy S on March 05, 2018, 09:49:43 AM
I'm not sure how easy it is for somebody of his stature to just move up stairs. Could it be he had got too big to get sacked? How do you get rid of somebody who has done so much for the club over such a long period unless you are totally heartless
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Southcoastffc on March 05, 2018, 09:53:07 AM
Quote from: grandad on March 05, 2018, 09:14:31 AM
Sad to see a great manager become a laughing stock. He should have retired gracefully at the end of last season.
Exactly grandad, probably before then.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: RaySmith on March 05, 2018, 09:57:39 AM
Ambition, yes - but no one has a pre-ordained right to success.

Arsenal fans have always considered  themselves and their club to be a cut above this rest.

Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 05, 2018, 09:59:55 AM
The bigger you are the harder you fall.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Bassey the warrior on March 05, 2018, 10:08:59 AM
It's a real shame. He should've retired years ago.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: alfie on March 05, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on March 05, 2018, 09:33:38 AM
No sympathy from me. He is demonstrating an unbelievable level of selfishness. If he really cared for the club he would step aside and let someone else have a go.
Selfishness? The guy loves the club, it must be extremely hard for him to just walk away, I would imagine that most people who are going through a tough time at work will try and turn it around, just because it is football does not mean he should be any different, and who's to say the next guy will be any better.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Carborundum on March 05, 2018, 11:13:21 AM
He is poor.  He's spent the last decade ignoring the basic rule of team building : first sort out the defence.  He's now in an inescapable bind, because his entire strategy has been that in the end he will be proved right.  He won't be.  We know it, the players know it and in his most private moments he must know it too.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: hopper on March 05, 2018, 01:33:51 PM
That trouser analogy is most bizarre.

Definitely feel sympathy for him, it's difficult to know what's going on behind the scenes and tough to know why he has failed to address crucial failings of the team for quite so long and end up in this unusual situation.

He'll still be remembered as a legend - but this must be a tormenting period for him in life.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Dixie on March 05, 2018, 02:16:23 PM
Look what happened to Manure when Fergie left... I think that for the owners, it's a case of better the devil you know!
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: filham on March 05, 2018, 03:43:05 PM
Was there life at Arsenal before Wenger, yes but it was dull and boring. The younger fans are about to experience the sacking of a manager and the bounce created by a new man for the first time, they may then have a long wait for the performances they crave.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Wingnut on March 05, 2018, 05:22:42 PM
Doesn't matter who comes in to replace Wenger, I can't see them winning the PL title any time soon. He should have left at the end of last season when he won the cup. Some of the remarks passed about him on the Arsenal fan channel over the past week or so have been completely over the top. The man has delivered countless trophies, CL football on a consistent basis while they were moving to their new stadium and years of excellent football. Nasty level of arrogance and self entitlement about Arsenal fans. 
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: ron on March 05, 2018, 07:41:48 PM
Quote from: hopper on March 05, 2018, 01:33:51 PM
That trouser analogy is most bizarre.

I remember a certain Mr Cantona going on about pilchards following a trawler or suchlike.
It must be a French thing.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: Twig on March 05, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: alfie on March 05, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on March 05, 2018, 09:33:38 AM
No sympathy from me. He is demonstrating an unbelievable level of selfishness. If he really cared for the club he would step aside and let someone else have a go.
Selfishness? The guy loves the club, it must be extremely hard for him to just walk away, I would imagine that most people who are going through a tough time at work will try and turn it around, just because it is football does not mean he should be any different, and who's to say the next guy will be any better.


Absolutely, and let's not forget just how many trophies and CL seasons this "selfish" manager has delivered.  Yes, he should have gone last year after the FA Cup win but I can understand why he wanted to see out his contract and turn things around.
Title: Re: Poor old Arsene Wenger
Post by: SG on March 05, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
It's pathetic how the media go on about a crisis. A football team has lost a few games and could finish in 6th place in the top league. Syria is a crisis, homelessness is a crisis, Arsenal fans think they are entitled to a top four place and are shocked to lose 4 on the trot. About time they joined the real football world like the fans of the remaining 86 league clubs and the myriad of non league clubs