Now don't shoot me here please but what are the thoughts on sess if promoted.
In recent weeks imo he has really struggled only having a few moments in a game where he will get in behind and do something positive yes he has scored loads of goals and well done but can he make the step up to premiership? Is he being overhyped? What if we turn down 30-50 million offers for him get promoted and then he can't step up what's his value then ? Just a thought I really like sess and think he's brilliant and eventually will be a top player in the prem but looking a recent performance I don't think he's quite ready yet
Not sure who you have been watching????
Quote from: KJS on March 08, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Not sure who you have been watching????
Probably us, I have to agree with him that Sess has not been at his best in recent matches, his goals have made up for that though!
If we get promoted i think Ryan will want to play for Fulham in the Premier League. We would also want to demonstrate how good our youth set-up is, so can't see us wanting to sell him. I think we'll only sell him if he insists on a transfer, but even then he doesn't seem like someone who would 'throw toys' if we refused.
IMO he's more likely to stay with us for at least another season if we get promoted, and likely to leave for a prem club if we stay in the Championship.
Quote from: Barrett487 on March 08, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
If we get promoted i think Ryan will want to play for Fulham in the Premier League. We would also want to demonstrate how good our youth set-up is, so can't see us wanting to sell him. I think we'll only sell him if he insists on a transfer, but even then he doesn't seem like someone who would 'throw toys' if we refused.
He may well want to stay with us, but I guess it all depends on what may be offered by other clubs, the old saying "everyone has a price" comes to mind.
He is certainly better as a left winger than as a left back at the moment but he is growing in strength all the time. If we get promoted he will certainly stay with us for the time being. Beyond that none of us can see. We have a very rich Chairman - perhaps he will plough millions into the club and make us "The Manchester United of the South" and we will be able to keep Sess!!
just thought id point out he's 17
In the last 2 games opposition defenders have doubled up on Sess. This has restricted him somewhat but it has freed up space for others. I am more than happy how he is playing. However, I feel that after the Preston match he should have a couple of games on the bench for him to recharge for the final push. He might also have a small injury he is playing through.
If he were to stay with us if we got promoted this season I would have expect him to sign a new contract for a longer term and obviously more money.This would protect our investment in terms of maximising his eventual sell on value.
Don't jump on me but I just wonder whether SJ could consider dropping Sess back to LB once or twice to give him more space and make it harder for sides to double up on him?
Quote from: Barrett487 on March 08, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
If we get promoted i think Ryan will want to play for Fulham in the Premier League. We would also want to demonstrate how good our youth set-up is, so can't see us wanting to sell him. I think we'll only sell him if he insists on a transfer, but even then he doesn't seem like someone who would 'throw toys' if we refused.
Sensible. Wouldn't think any toys thrown with getting to play in the PL at 18, as a starter with the club he came up with. Very Southampton 2012 if you will.
Made a point a few weeks back about a change that has happened over the season.
Early in season Ryan was targeted as a potential weak link to exploit.
Now he's targeted as he's a threat they need to stop.
Amazing in just a few months for a youth player
Quote from: Twig on March 08, 2018, 09:12:59 PM
Don't jump on me but I just wonder whether SJ could consider dropping Sess back to LB once or twice to give him more space and make it harder for sides to double up on him?
Good point, but drop Targett?
Probably true that Sess is being closed down by teams - well, he's hardly under the radar now - but, amazingly, he's still scoring goals.
Sess playing at LB and then moving to LW and then back again as the season progressed has been the making of him in my eyes.
Worked perfectly with less pressure on him. Now he's starting every game at LW you are seeing fans being slightly critical of him when he doesn't score.
And of course Joka said this yesterday:
"I like using Sess both as a left back and winger. Ryan's physicality is fantastic and can attack from both positions."
Think Sess could do with working on his dribbling skills. He rarely beats his man. Still he's learnt the harder skills of scoring and off the ball movement.
I'm not being critical of him I'm just asking the question would he be ready to be a premiership player at this moment
Quote from: irishfulham on March 09, 2018, 05:35:39 PM
I'm not being critical of him I'm just asking the question would he be ready to be a premiership player at this moment
Fair enough and it's a decent question. In truth, it depends on what you define as 'being good enough for the Premier League.' Sorry if that sounds pedantic. But I mean, was Scott Malone good enough for the Premier League when Huddersfield signed him? Is he good enough now?
I think Sess would get into about 6-8 Premier League teams tomorrow if they could pick him. If we go up, he'd certainly be good enough for us to be a first team player.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that he's already gone. Theres a few too many hints I've seen around that point toward a deal already being in place for him.
There was a bid made by United in January only team to make a bid and it was firmly rejected
A lot of us are not addressing the important point that the op is making, it important and worth giving thought to.
I am not convinced that right now Sess is a good as the media are making him out to be and I even question if he is good enough for a promotion chasing team in the Championship. However his goals speak for themselves and he fits well into the team and hence justifies his place in the team.
The big clubs have no intention to introduce him to premiership football for a while as no doubt they probably already have better players for the position, they are to prepared to invest huge sums because in their judgement Sess will be worht more than tis in a few seasons time when he can command a first team spott.
Now if we are promoted, we will need money for new players. Will we be prepared to play Sess. in the reservesuntil he matures further and at the same time turn down offers of say £30m.
Thank you this was exactly what I meant
Controversial, but sell him for £40m with a season loan back (rather than £50-£60 outright)
All parties happy and we get to invest the £40M in building a squad that can stay in the premier for the next 10 years again (we will need a heavy investment t if we go up)
Quote from: Jeroen on March 10, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
Controversial, but sell him for £40m with a season loan back (rather than £50-£60 outright)
All parties happy and we get to invest the £40M in building a squad that can stay in the premier for the next 10 years again (we will need a heavy investment t if we go up)
Yes we'll need investment, but don't forget that just by being in the Prem we'll receive a huge amount of cash. Which means we're not as reliant on selling players to generate cash.
