For me personally now, the way that we handle Sess between now and the end of the season is paramount to whether we have an excellent season or a disappointing season,
At 17 years old he is still a kid, and yet he is being asked to play 90 minutes of every game, that is one he'll of an ask, whether it's football or athletics or tennis or basically any other sport there is a serious danger of "burn out" , Sir Alex use to talk about it all the time and was very good at protecting the youngsters,
Burn out, is not necessarily a physical thing but more of a mental thing, I strongly believe that there has to be a time this season that he is taken to one side and told that we don't need you for the next two games , we want you to fly to Dubai for a week with your girlfriend and forget all about football,
Let's face it his performances have dropped off a bit recently, we don't need stellar performances from him in March and April but we are going to need 3 stellar performances from him in May,
We've got Kebano to cover for him so let's give Sess a break at the right time, as him playing 90 minutes in every game up to and including Birmingham away would be a big mistake imho.
Anybody else agree ?
Yup. Maybe alternate games til playoffs.
I thought he should be protected more at Fulham.
I guess the coach thinks he is comfortable at this league level like other teenagers feeling comfortable in the reserve league games.
He will probably be rested more often when there are better players around him and with more competitive games like the Premier League.
Haynes never experienced any such treatment and was never the worse for wear.
The player who is the focus of our oponents heavies is Cairney and it may be wise to give him some rest if he is going to be fit for the play offs.
Bloody hell, at 17 I was playing sport every day of the week and for as long as I could each day
He's not 35 with old legs
I am confident that SJ & the fitness assessment people are monitoring him. The last few games defenders have been doubling up on him. This is good experience for him. It does give other players a bit more space. I would keep playing him for the fear factor alone.
Quote from: sunburywhite on March 14, 2018, 12:09:42 PM
Bloody hell, at 17 I was playing sport every day of the week and for as long as I could each day
He's not 35 with old legs
Yes but as Riversider pointed out it may be mental rather than physical fatigue that sets in?
I do see what Riversider is saying but assume that Sess himself would prefer to continue, so as to get as many goals as possible.
I also think that the management team will know if he needs a break.
For me I trust Slavisa's judgement but would have no worries if he rested Sess and used the squad.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on March 14, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on March 14, 2018, 12:09:42 PM
Bloody hell, at 17 I was playing sport every day of the week and for as long as I could each day
He's not 35 with old legs
Yes but as Riversider pointed out it may be mental rather than physical fatigue that sets in?
I do see what Riversider is saying but assume that Sess himself would prefer to continue, so as to get as many goals as possible.
I also think that the management team will know if he needs a break.
For me I trust Slavisa's judgement but would have no worries if he rested Sess and used the squad.
The old mental-physical-mental conundrum has never really been thoroughly credited or discredited and so it perpetuates. The contrast is the enjoy-perform-enjoy conundrum which perpetuates and percolates within many a successful head even on weary shoulders. Of course any 'dropping off' is noticeable in training sessions, even within group banter, or social occasions and our coaching professionals will have a pretty good idea what a 'normal' Ryan Sessegnon looks like. For that reason alone I don't worry about how well the young man is being looked after by Fulham. I am sure SJ will continue to pick what he regards as the team to give him his best chance of obtaining all three points and modify as necessary during a match. After Easter we may be able to relax our pressure on the gas pedal a little but I am hoping we have sufficient reason to fight for maximum points in all games right up to the final whistle on May 6th.
Last season David Wagner (Huddersfield Town) made an incredible decision over the last 3 or 4 games to rest virtually his entire first eleven
Now at the time I thought it was utter lunacy and would cost them any chance of glory in the play offs, I mean how can players turn it on and off at the drop of a hat ?
But what do I know, it turned out to be a master stroke from Wagner and Huddersfield were the freshest side over those last three games, so I will be amazed if the likes of Villa and Fulham don't go down the same path this season.
Quote from: Riversider on March 14, 2018, 01:43:59 PM
Last season David Wagner (Huddersfield Town) made an incredible decision over the last 3 or 4 games to rest virtually his entire first eleven
Now at the time I thought it was utter lunacy and would cost them any chance of glory in the play offs, I mean how can players turn it on and off at the drop of a hat ?
But what do I know, it turned out to be a master stroke from Wagner and Huddersfield were the freshest side over those last three games, so I will be amazed if the likes of Villa and Fulham don't go down the same path this season.
And of course there are now rules in place to limit the amount of changes you can make.
10 outfield players from last matchday 18 must be in the next matchday squad for the last few games.
Quote from: MJG on March 14, 2018, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: Riversider on March 14, 2018, 01:43:59 PM
Last season David Wagner (Huddersfield Town) made an incredible decision over the last 3 or 4 games to rest virtually his entire first eleven
Now at the time I thought it was utter lunacy and would cost them any chance of glory in the play offs, I mean how can players turn it on and off at the drop of a hat ?
But what do I know, it turned out to be a master stroke from Wagner and Huddersfield were the freshest side over those last three games, so I will be amazed if the likes of Villa and Fulham don't go down the same path this season.
And of course there are now rules in place to limit the amount of changes you can make.
10 outfield players from last matchday 18 must be in the next matchday squad for the last few games.
They can't be in the match day squad if they're "injured" though can they.
Quote from: Riversider on March 14, 2018, 01:43:59 PM
Last season David Wagner (Huddersfield Town) made an incredible decision over the last 3 or 4 games to rest virtually his entire first eleven
Now at the time I thought it was utter lunacy and would cost them any chance of glory in the play offs, I mean how can players turn it on and off at the drop of a hat ?
But what do I know, it turned out to be a master stroke from Wagner and Huddersfield were the freshest side over those last three games, so I will be amazed if the likes of Villa and Fulham don't go down the same path this season.
Huddersfield didn't actually score a goal themselves in the three playoff matches. Not sure how much we can read into their rest strategy. They dodged the one club in the playoffs that had beaten them 9-1 on aggregate. I'll take lucky over good every day and twice at Wembley.
While a 17 year old has as much energy as he'll ever have he is still a growing boy. Too much stress can hinder that growth and development. I agree he ought to sit a bit just to let his body catch up. We're past the magical run of games against the elite so lets rest him a bit against the knee kickers that are coming up.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on March 14, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on March 14, 2018, 12:09:42 PM
Bloody hell, at 17 I was playing sport every day of the week and for as long as I could each day
He's not 35 with old legs
Yes but as Riversider pointed out it may be mental rather than physical fatigue that sets in?
I do see what Riversider is saying but assume that Sess himself would prefer to continue, so as to get as many goals as possible.
I also think that the management team will know if he needs a break.
For me I trust Slavisa's judgement but would have no worries if he rested Sess and used the squad.
You mean he needs a few sessions with the trick cyclist. In the old days that sort of treatment was for film stars and those who had more money than they new what to do with, not footballers.
After the season has finished.
Frustrates the life out of me that we didn't lessen his work load over the last 3 months or so, he should have been the golden boy of the play offs now you have to question whether he should be starting on Monday, they said at half time that he had the least amount of touches in the first half out of the entire Fulham team and that includes the Keeper !
I personally would put Sess on the bench on Monday ready for him to come on after 70 minutes as Derby tire, Jokanovic must shuffle the pack in an attempt to freshen things up, Christie and Kamara have got bags of pace and didn't get a look in tonight , I think they've both got a part to play on Monday, there's no need to panic on Monday even if it's 0-0 At half time, we've still got plenty of time, my one concern is David Nugent I can see him scoring at some point, but can we score 2,
7 play off games played and not one single win, time to put that shocking stat to bed on Monday night,
Come on you super Whites we can still do this 🤞⚫⚪⚫⚪⚫⚪⚫⚪⚫⚪⚽️⚽️
Sess looks absolutely done. Have to strongly consider other options on Monday imo
He's done naff all for months. I can't even remember his last stand out performance.
Riversider,
You make me laugh, you really do.
It was only three days ago that someone asked you about Sessegnon on another thread and received this somewhat shirty response:
Quote from: Riversider on May 09, 2018, 12:33:50 AM
Quote from: EastEndWhite on May 08, 2018, 08:45:56 PM
So do you want him on the bench or not?
Dont be silly, where have I said I want him dropped ?
Based on performances in recent games it is time to close his season, Kebano is a good replacement and the team could benefit.
I do wonder however what this will do to his transfer value, I haven't heard anyone quoting those silly multi million pound figures for a while.
Sess must start. He carries with him the fear factor. He has been double & treble marked. This may mean he is swamped but it does free up space for others to exploit. Target I feel is still not 100% Fredericks is physically shot. Johansen is also. Sess must play . It is possibly only 2 more games in his magnificent season.
Perhaps he did have fear factor before last night. That's probably gone down quite a bit now Wisdom completely got the better of him.
