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Title: Slavisa
Post by: Andy S on April 21, 2018, 01:27:25 AM
Now I am not knocking the man but he has played in this country and managed both Watford and now us for two seasons. His comprehension of the English language appears suspect. Obviously his players understand him perfectly so is it put on in order to make other clubs think he cannot communicate with his players quickly or something?
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: hovewhite on April 21, 2018, 07:07:52 AM
As long as the players understand him,that's good enough for me.coyw
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 21, 2018, 07:12:42 AM
Quote from: Andy S on April 21, 2018, 01:27:25 AM
Now I am not knocking the man but he has played in this country and managed both Watford and now us for two seasons. His comprehension of the English language appears suspect. Obviously his players understand him perfectly so is it put on in order to make other clubs think he cannot communicate with his players quickly or something?


Always thought in interviews he pretends to speak bad English on purpose so as to confuse the interviewer and not have to answer the questions.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: colinwhite on April 21, 2018, 07:16:42 AM
He strikes me as a pretty sharp guy  ,who has learnt english by ear rather than going on a course.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Nero on April 21, 2018, 07:22:10 AM
if hes writes his own twitter he can communicate very well in English.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: bobby01 on April 21, 2018, 08:19:58 AM
I remember Pochettino using a translator when it was said he spoke good English. I think Slav speaks better English than he lets on.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: toshes mate on April 21, 2018, 08:29:39 AM
In his own culture I would imagine they are quite impressed by his refusal to get drawn into the clichés responses spoon fed into questions.  He is his own man and I think his apparent introspection is the perfect foil for protecting all those who matter to the success of his profession.  He talks with his team's performances and you cannot be louder or clearer than that.   
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: bog on April 21, 2018, 08:32:33 AM
Given the way we play he can talk double dutch as far as I am concerned.


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Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: SuffolkWhite on April 21, 2018, 09:50:56 AM
Well at least he doesn't have a weird English/Dutch accent like the wall with the brolly  064.gif
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Holders on April 21, 2018, 10:32:52 AM
I don't think there's any problem with his comprehension at all. His spoken English is accented (as to be expected) and mumbled (because he mumbles). If his word order is sometimes a little unusual that's probably a feature from Serbo-Croat but I don't think there's any doubt that he's actually perfectly fluent in his own idiosyncratic way.

It seems to me that he gets the message across to the team very effectively.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Twig on April 21, 2018, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 21, 2018, 10:32:52 AM
I don't think there's any problem with his comprehension at all. His spoken English is accented (as to be expected) and mumbled (because he mumbles). If his word order is sometimes a little unusual that's probably a feature from Serbo-Croat but I don't think there's any doubt that he's actually perfectly fluent in his own idiosyncratic way.

It seems to me that he gets the message across to the team very effectively.

I pretty much agree.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 21, 2018, 12:41:21 PM
His English is good enough to communicate with his players, otherwise we wouldn't be in second place, on a 22 match unbeaten run.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: General on April 21, 2018, 01:08:50 PM
I've thought this too.. does feel as if he knows how to speak more articulately than he shows.. would be a fun ploy if he did to make journos lose interest in him or not ask hard questions.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Forever Fulham on April 21, 2018, 01:54:11 PM
Right now, to me, he walks on water and speaks in tongues.  Every one of his players must understand him, given our amazing and ever-improving run of form.  Next Arsenal manager?   Hope not.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Holders on April 21, 2018, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on April 21, 2018, 01:54:11 PM
Right now, to me, he walks on water and speaks in tongues.  Every one of his players must understand him, given our amazing and ever-improving run of form.  Next Arsenal manager?   Hope not.

No, his English is too good.

Will he be taking up serpents next?
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: HV71 on April 21, 2018, 02:23:22 PM
"Will he be taking up serpents next? "


Well I for one am a disciple of his

In Joka I Trust
In Joka I believe
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: DevonFFC on April 21, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
he also speaks fluent Spanish as his family live there and spends majority of his time in Madrid
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Twig on April 21, 2018, 05:59:20 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on April 21, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
he also speaks fluent Spanish as his family live there and spends majority of his time in Madrid

We need to persuade his family of the delights of West London living!
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: F(f)CUK on April 21, 2018, 06:03:42 PM
His stare is the only language that he needs
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on April 22, 2018, 12:21:15 AM
I lived in Iran for 2 years amongst the locals and learned hardly any Farsi.
I lived in Spanish speaking Cadiz and learned very little Spanish
I lived in Bournemouth for a year and learned minimal Dorsetish
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Holders on April 22, 2018, 09:49:13 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on April 22, 2018, 12:21:15 AM
I lived in Iran for 2 years amongst the locals and learned hardly any Farsi.
I lived in Spanish speaking Cadiz and learned very little Spanish
I lived in Bournemouth for a year and learned minimal Dorsetish

Don't you think that was rather a lost opportunity, though? There's no way to learn a language like living amongst it.

Have you had to learn American or do they understand English if you shout loud enough?
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: toshes mate on April 22, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 22, 2018, 09:49:13 AM
Don't you think that was rather a lost opportunity, though? There's no way to learn a language like living amongst it.

Have you had to learn American or do they understand English if you shout loud enough?
The jocular last line is a profound comment upon how languages are used to pursue nationality and cultural issues - and it is a really shrewd remark.  I think we should all at least try to learn one foreign language if only to realise just how difficult it is to achieve any kind of fluency. 

Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Holders on April 22, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on April 22, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 22, 2018, 09:49:13 AM
Don't you think that was rather a lost opportunity, though? There's no way to learn a language like living amongst it.

Have you had to learn American or do they understand English if you shout loud enough?
The jocular last line is a profound comment upon how languages are used to pursue nationality and cultural issues - and it is a really shrewd remark.  I think we should all at least try to learn one foreign language if only to realise just how difficult it is to achieve any kind of fluency. 



Unless one has a flair for language (and some lucky people do) it's really hard to achieve any kind of adequacy, let alone fluency, unless one lives among it. I go to a non English-speaking country about one week a year and it takes all that time to get anything like the accent back. Forming sentences, even correctly, is all very well but the accent is a large part of it in terms of comprehension. I hate people replying in English as soon as they hear my accent.

We can get away with being lazy because English is so many other nationalities' second language because it's so widespread: in the former Empire and the fact that a version is spoken in America with its huge film and TV influence is a major contributor. How many foreigners speak English with an American accent? Many of them in my experience.  If you book into a hotel in Germany, for example they'll direct you to the "elevator", notwithstanding that the German for lift is lift, as in English! I actually rather like the onomatopoeic Finnish "hissi".
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Bill2 on April 22, 2018, 11:15:10 AM
Long may we hear his broken English talking about Fulham.
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Forever Fulham on April 23, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 22, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on April 22, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: Holders on April 22, 2018, 09:49:13 AM
Don't you think that was rather a lost opportunity, though? There's no way to learn a language like living amongst it.

Have you had to learn American or do they understand English if you shout loud enough?
The jocular last line is a profound comment upon how languages are used to pursue nationality and cultural issues - and it is a really shrewd remark.  I think we should all at least try to learn one foreign language if only to realise just how difficult it is to achieve any kind of fluency. 



Unless one has a flair for language (and some lucky people do) it's really hard to achieve any kind of adequacy, let alone fluency, unless one lives among it. I go to a non English-speaking country about one week a year and it takes all that time to get anything like the accent back. Forming sentences, even correctly, is all very well but the accent is a large part of it in terms of comprehension. I hate people replying in English as soon as they hear my accent.

We can get away with being lazy because English is so many other nationalities' second language because it's so widespread: in the former Empire and the fact that a version is spoken in America with its huge film and TV influence is a major contributor. How many foreigners speak English with an American accent? Many of them in my experience.  If you book into a hotel in Germany, for example they'll direct you to the "elevator", notwithstanding that the German for lift is lift, as in English! I actually rather like the onomatopoeic Finnish "hissi".

So true, Holders.  English has become the international language of commerce. 
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: Jamie88 on April 23, 2018, 08:00:27 PM
I have heard that its Javier Perreira that is really the man in charge during training and that Slav is fairly quiet
Title: Re: Slavisa
Post by: BestOfBrede on April 23, 2018, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on April 22, 2018, 11:15:10 AM
Long may we hear his broken English talking about Fulham.
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