Sunday papers suggesting that we're in talks to sign Tim Krul from Brighton on a free transfer. Always surprised me that he faded away so abruptly at Newcastle and then didn't really get a look in at Brighton.
He would be strong competition for Bettinelli at the very least. The same report says that Brighton are in talks with Fulham over David Button joining them, which I think was rumoured a few weeks ago.
Thoughts?
Seen the Button rumours on Sky Sports for around 4.5m. Who knows what they're smoking to come up with that valuation!
Krul was out for a season with an ACL injury which has obviously affected him. In that time, Newcastle were injured and changed their manager. Newcastle ended up with Darlow, Elliot as well as bringing in Selz.
He left for Ajax who already had a number 1 in Onana so later joined AZ.
By the start of last season he joined Brighton late on in transfer window, although they had already spent big bucks on Matt Ryan.
He seems to have settled for a number 2 role instead of going out and challenging for number 1 role at a vacant spot or a lower league.
Would prefer a current number 1 to come in to the club and fight betts rather than someone to provide backup. He's already been at a newly promoted club and shown he is a distant backup having not played a minute in the league this season
Good keeper some time ago but not exactly a EVDS signing we were hoping for.
Bettinelli definitely needs some competition. A drop in form and we could really be struggling.
I sometimes wonder if they have a list of positions they must strengthen and those they think they can get away with this season.
It depends on how much money we want to spend on a Keeper. There's a lot of Keepers with Prem experience we could potentially go for. Fabianski (although it looks like he's going to West Ham), Ben Foster, Fraser Forster, Mignolet, Joe Hart, Tom Heaton (and there's probably more) but they'd all cost a transfer fee and not be cheap in-terms of wages.
Then looking abroad if we wanted to spend big for a guaranteed #1 we could try for Lovre Kalinic (Gent) or Jiri Pavlenka (Bremen) but they'd both be north of 15 mill.
We only need a Goalkeeper when the ball reaches our goal area, which isn't very often. So we could probably stick a Zookeeper in the net, and would probably get away with it.
Good research,,,,, Guess we will just have to wait and see.
Anyone else suffer from insomnia?
Lonely old business
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 17, 2018, 03:32:21 AM
Good research,,,,, Guess we will just have to wait and see.
Anyone else suffer from insomnia?
Lonely old business
I am still at work, and whilst you have been sleeping all night, or whilst you may suffer from insomnia all night, and I do sympathies with the plight of insomniacs.
I amongst others have been hard at work most of the night keeping parts of this country safe from predators and Hillary Clinton.
Whilst the rest of the nation are snoring 💤 their heads off.
So we continue our flirtation with Dutch international keepers.
Score is currently 1-1 on that one.
Minor coincidence dept: last time Krul turned out against us, we had Stockdale (who went to Brighton) in goal and Stekelenberg on the bench....And, to round of with a WC theme, our winning goal was scored by Djagah.
Krul not a bad Keeper and would bring premiership experience to the squad.
Would have Betts as first choice giving him the chance to prove himself.
And having Krul as a back up would not be a bad option.
He was good keeper, at Brighton he didn't seem to get a change to prove that he still is.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 17, 2018, 03:31:35 AM
We only need a Goalkeeper when the ball reaches our goal area, which isn't very often. So we could probably stick a Zookeeper in the net, and would probably get away with it.
Now if we get the elephant keeper and he brings him with him in the nets now we are talking
not a prem keeper, but him + £4m for button would be great business. would stil llove us to sign vorm tho
Quote from: LRCN on June 17, 2018, 03:53:48 PM
not a prem keeper, but him + £4m for button would be great business. would stil llove us to sign vorm tho
Vorm extended his deal with Spurs.
Are we aware that we are playing in the Premiership next season and will need Premiership quality players.
Premier experienced keeper, him + £4m or player exchange of Norwood for Button would be ok business.
We must remember we are in the Premier League next season, and we will need good quality Premier League players, nothing less.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 17, 2018, 03:32:21 AM
Good research,,,,, Guess we will just have to wait and see.
Anyone else suffer from insomnia?
Lonely old business
Awful insomnia since a child and it gets worse as I get older. Not fun.
£4m +Krul for Button. Yeah, I could handle that. 064.gif
Can anyone help explain (other than paper talk nonsense) where a 4m valuation for our reserve keeper has come from? Yes he's played 60 games in 2 years, but hes only got one year left on his contract, has been dropped in favour of a not perfect Betts, and I'm assuming that the 4m figure is just money burning holes in Brightons pockets?
That money could certainly be put towards taking Norwood off them too to at least add squad depth before spending our own money on some quality star names
£3m + Button for Krul and Norwood seems fair
I know swapping something you have for 4 million pounds and getting something in return that does a similar job for free seems a lot of sense but there must be a reason why something is free in the first place..
Plus we should be aiming higher than krul if we can.
Quote from: General on June 18, 2018, 01:13:07 AM
I know swapping something you have for 4 million pounds and getting something in return that does a similar job for free seems a lot of sense but there must be a reason why something is free in the first place..
Plus we should be aiming higher than krul if we can.
Dont understand your logic, West Ham got Ryan Fredericks for free, are you knocking him ?
Krul would be decent, creates some competition for the number one with Betts.
Slightly worried about his game time in recent years though.
Yes, not exactly the aspirational signing we were looking for, however, we do need to ship in a lot signings, so to fit our sustainability model I suppose there must be some chaff amongst wheat.
Tim Krul was a quality keeper when he played for Newcastle; one of the best in the Prem, in my opinion. I'd like to see him at the Cottage. He may not have had much game time in the last two seasons, but I am confident that he would regain his quality if he played regularly again.
Great deal for us, as a free, and nothing to lose. If we could get Norwood as well, in exchange for Button, well, that would be some business by the club.
Personally I think getting £4m for Button and getting Krul for free is cracking business, especially when both would arguably be the number 2 keeper. Factor in that Krul also has international and prem experience then it looks even better. If anyone can improve him and get him back to his old levels then it's our goalkeeping coach, look at how much he improved Betts.
Krul is good goalie but inconsistent. I follow Ajax very closely and when they signed him he didnt make into first 11, reason is mainly is that he is very injury prone. We should not expect him to be our no.1 GK, since clean sheets will be very important if we want to stay up. A good guy to keep on the bench in case we need him ......
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 18, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
Personally I think getting £4m for Button and getting Krul for free is cracking business, especially when both would arguably be the number 2 keeper. Factor in that Krul also has international and prem experience then it looks even better. If anyone can improve him and get him back to his old levels then it's our goalkeeping coach, look at how much he improved Betts.
When I first saw Tim Krul was available on a free (some time ago) I thought why not?, an experienced keeper at Prem and International level would be a good addition to the squad.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 17, 2018, 01:55:03 AM
I sometimes wonder if they have a list of positions they must strengthen and those they think they can get away with this season.
I suspect the list of where there are needs to strengthen reads much the same as when Jokanovic first arrived. Our coaching staff have worked wonders with what they have and have been given but this window really needs to be something very special from the recruitment team for no other reason than to let the coaches achieve their true potential at the highest level. If Krul and Norwood can be purchased at realistic values then let us see where it takes us.
Quote from: Tonywa on June 17, 2018, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 17, 2018, 03:32:21 AM
Good research,,,,, Guess we will just have to wait and see.
Anyone else suffer from insomnia?
Lonely old business
Awful insomnia since a child and it gets worse as I get older. Not fun.
Amore vincit insomnia
No thank you on Tim Krul. seriously. i remember his howler against us when he was with 'Toon in 2014. seems like an odd bird, too, don't think the chemistry would mix well. Betts got us here. he's a shot-stopper. build the defence in front of him with another quality CB and we'll be fine.
With regard to Freddo going for free, the West Ham fans don't seem that impressed citing he can't defend......if WH cannot play to his strengths they will be caught out at the back time and time again.
That is assuming he is going to be first choice!!
I have rated Tim Krul in the past, but I worry that this would be something of a Gabor Kiraly type signing, and he turned out to be pretty much useless for us.
It's a low risk punt, at zero cost, apart from wages, obviously. BTW, I'm not suggesting that he replace Betts, but that he would be a great keeper to have on the bench, and keep Betts on his toes.
Rotherham are really keen to have Rodak on loan for a second season. Now they're in the Championship it'll be great experience for him.
Rodak think in years to come will be our no1 keeper so a year at rotheram will help all 3 parties.
