Lots of rumours elsewhere.
Can't be true .............. could it??
What rumours???
http://www.voy.com/13865/1207334990.html
Hmmm. Can only see it if Slav wants two of Kebano/Ak47/Fonte/Ayite gone. At 2MM for a fringe player that's a net 7MM on our sale. Don't think we go in at 4
If true, it cements the expectation that we have a system and we are sticking to it. Sone Aluko knows the system, operates effectively in it and had a great season with us. We aren't going to pin our faith on him playing 30 games, but that's going to be true of some we sign, whatever happens.
If true did not see this happening,but in slav I trust!
Nonsense.
Zero on this on the internet so not holding out too much hope.
In theory though an interesting idea.
Was a very respectful dialogue between Slav and Aluko on Sky after the Playoff finals. Wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to come back at all.
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 09:50:22 AM
Zero on this on the internet so not holding out too much hope.
In theory though an interesting idea.
Was a very respectful dialogue between Slav and Aluko on Sky after the Playoff finals. Wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to come back at all.
He also seemed really pleased for his ex-teammates that they (we) had done it. Clearly, the move to Reading didn't work out for him or Reading.
We could do a lot worse. Couldn't we part exchange him for Fonte and give Reading cash as well.
Quote from: Statto on June 24, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
Have we forgotten the circumstances of his departure. His cryptic tweets about it someday coming out in a book. We didn't value him as highly as he valued himself. Rumours of a racism allegation as well. No chance of him coming back even if he was good enough for the premier league or young enough to improve. And he's neither anyway.
I think him and his sister are bad news. Likely wind each other up behind the scenes.
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 24, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
Have we forgotten the circumstances of his departure. His cryptic tweets about it someday coming out in a book. We didn't value him as highly as he valued himself. Rumours of a racism allegation as well. No chance of him coming back even if he was good enough for the premier league or young enough to improve. And he's neither anyway.
I think him and his sister are bad news. Likely wind each other up behind the scenes.
So we are signing Eni, too, are we? Juventus will be upset.
Still if you believe the stuff about Sone you might as well believe this too.
Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?
Quote from: cmg on June 24, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 24, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
Have we forgotten the circumstances of his departure. His cryptic tweets about it someday coming out in a book. We didn't value him as highly as he valued himself. Rumours of a racism allegation as well. No chance of him coming back even if he was good enough for the premier league or young enough to improve. And he's neither anyway.
I think him and his sister are bad news. Likely wind each other up behind the scenes.
So we are signing Eni, too, are we? Juventus will be upset.
Still if you believe the stuff about Sone you might as well believe this too.
Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?
I think FoF had this discussion when the Eni Aluko-England dispute hit the news. Ended in quite a long heated debate on the topic with a roughly 50:50 split. Let's not get back into it!
Although Sone made a good few extra £s from his move to Reading, it must've hurt watching our play last season, the home semi-final & the day at Wembley.
"Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?"
Absolutely agree CMG.
Quote from: cmg on June 24, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 24, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
Have we forgotten the circumstances of his departure. His cryptic tweets about it someday coming out in a book. We didn't value him as highly as he valued himself. Rumours of a racism allegation as well. No chance of him coming back even if he was good enough for the premier league or young enough to improve. And he's neither anyway.
I think him and his sister are bad news. Likely wind each other up behind the scenes.
So we are signing Eni, too, are we? Juventus will be upset.
Still if you believe the stuff about Sone you might as well believe this too.
Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?
:plus one:
I would love to see Aluko back in our squad but just can't believe it, the idea just smells of a piece of smart lazy journalism.
Alternatively it could be a smoke screen to cover the fact than we have made no progress in signing players for the critical positions vacated by Fredericks, Kalas, Mitrovic, Tarrget and Norwood.
An "intelligent articulate woman" who cannot take a joke and plays the 'race card' to gain favour.
She has a first class degree in law also, not to be messed with I'd say.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 24, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
"Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?"
Absolutely agree CMG.
Her actions regarding the England set up may have cost the manager his job but in the end cost her her place in the England set up. While I will support her right to complain about comments or actions against her. The lack of support from many of her team mates could prove they were needless and petty.
Quote from: cmg on June 24, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Milo on June 24, 2018, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 24, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
Have we forgotten the circumstances of his departure. His cryptic tweets about it someday coming out in a book. We didn't value him as highly as he valued himself. Rumours of a racism allegation as well. No chance of him coming back even if he was good enough for the premier league or young enough to improve. And he's neither anyway.
I think him and his sister are bad news. Likely wind each other up behind the scenes.
So we are signing Eni, too, are we? Juventus will be upset.
Still if you believe the stuff about Sone you might as well believe this too.
Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?
and she has a sweet left foot.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 24, 2018, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 24, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
"Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?"
Absolutely agree CMG.
Her actions regarding the England set up may have cost the manager his job but in the end cost her her place in the England set up. While I will support her right to complain about comments or actions against her. The lack of support from many of her team mates could prove they were needless and petty.
Exactly. Like I imagine her teammates, I disagreed with Eni Aluko because of the way she handled the incident in the press and not because I thought she was wrong. I made it quite clear in the original thread I found the comments made against her inappropriate and unprofessional.
Unfortunately I doubt the three posters who made such fleeting comments about sexism on the previous page read those before their disappointing posts. A shame because I normally find those posters level headed and insightful.
Why do so many threads on here go off OP onto stupid tangents???
I would love to have Sone Aluko back at Fulham. He might not be a 1st eleven starter, but he will be a good 'squad' member.
He knows how we like to play and has pace. Yes his final shot is somewhat wayward, but if we can get him to just pass it to Mitro......
COYW
Exactly,,,,,,we were discussing Sone not his sister.
Sone Aluko is good for Fulham, I agree!
I think if we are aiming for players like Aluko we are heading for a quick return to the Championship.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 24, 2018, 08:09:48 PM
I think if we are aiming for players like Aluko we are heading for a quick return to the Championship.
to be fair to sone I don't think he's played a full prem season starting,so as amazed as I am that this story is running with legs I loved watching him as he had a lot of assists and opposing players just weren't sure what he was going to do ,infact I don't think he knew as he seemed to play on instinct so wouldn't mind if this happens.
Jury is out on this for me. At prem level a minor signing to bolster the squad (if it happens). Fine, but verging on the irrelevant.
Quote from: Twig on June 24, 2018, 09:51:37 PM
Jury is out on this for me. At prem level a minor signing to bolster the squad (if it happens). Fine, but verging on the irrelevant.
[/quote agree a budget squad bye money wise.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 24, 2018, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 24, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
"Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?"
Absolutely agree CMG.
Her actions regarding the England set up may have cost the manager his job but in the end cost her her place in the England set up. While I will support her right to complain about comments or actions against her. The lack of support from many of her team mates could prove they were needless and petty.
Numbers don't always prove anything, Lighthouse. Only evidence and facts lead us to something resembling the truth. Eni Aluko is a pretty strong advocate for facts, evidence and fair trials.
I really liked Aluko at Fulham was gutted when he left but now we are in the Premier League we must surely have better targets in mind. Joka liked Aluko so wouldn't shock me but I think we can do better although he was very good in a Fulham shirt
Quote from: toshes mate on June 25, 2018, 07:29:58 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 24, 2018, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 24, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
"Intrigues me why you would think Eni Aluko is 'bad news'. Do you find the idea of an intelligent, articulate woman who is prepared to stick up for herself, her values and her beliefs, somehow disturbing?"
Absolutely agree CMG.
Her actions regarding the England set up may have cost the manager his job but in the end cost her her place in the England set up. While I will support her right to complain about comments or actions against her. The lack of support from many of her team mates could prove they were needless and petty.
Numbers don't always prove anything, Lighthouse. Only evidence and facts lead us to something resembling the truth. Eni Aluko is a pretty strong advocate for facts, evidence and fair trials.
As we see on here every day. One mans truth is anothers poppycock. I may truly believe that Sone Aluko would be a step back and yet he may be a success. If I say something to you in banter and jest and you take it seriously and sue me. Then 'truth' becomes nothing more than opinion. Lawyers and legal teams have been making money off it for years.
I find this a bit odd. He left last year as we were not prepared to offer him a two year contract, so a year later we offer him a contract and pay £4mill. Not sure this stands up to any scrutiny, but hey ho have been wrong before.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 24, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
An "intelligent articulate woman" who cannot take a joke and plays the 'race card' to gain favour.
This is a disappointing comment from someone who doesnt know the ins and outs of the case. You sound like an EDL member at best.
Maybe if you were still relevant comments like that could be the undoing of you. Alas, you are not.
Quote from: fashion140 on June 25, 2018, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 24, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
An "intelligent articulate woman" who cannot take a joke and plays the 'race card' to gain favour.
This is a disappointing comment from someone who doesnt know the ins and outs of the case. You sound like an EDL member at best.
Maybe if you were still relevant comments like that could be the undoing of you. Alas, you are not.
Have to say I agree with you on this.
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 25, 2018, 02:37:21 PM
As we see on here every day. One mans truth is anothers poppycock. I may truly believe that Sone Aluko would be a step back and yet he may be a success. If I say something to you in banter and jest and you take it seriously and sue me. Then 'truth' becomes nothing more than opinion. Lawyers and legal teams have been making money off it for years.
Sorry to see you really do not understand the difference between 'banter' and inappropriate or insensitive use of language which may be targeted at certain individuals but couldn't be used generally to others. One episode may be put down to foolish error but when repeated it becomes something entirely different. Nobody should be targeted just because of some feature of their appearance or background or individuality they can do absolutely nothing about. People in responsible jobs have a duty to act responsibly. If you don't understand then you have a problem.
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I liked Aluko, very specific player who worked well with us and perhaps not for others, regardless of league, even the EDL.
We barely have a starting 11 at the moment. 4m surely includes appearances and add ons. You know what you will get.
Boy, this thread escalated quickly.....4m for a player that's never really cut it in EPL and overall has barely lit up the championship is strange really. I'd place the question mark over the player, not the price tag considering current market though. You'd think we could invest/attract in better quality than Aluko now we're in the EPL. Saying this, if Slav wants him back, so be it, I trust him above all else.
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Would you like to guess who said the following "Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is fascist and it's violent and we've had enough!"
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Would you like to guess who said the following "Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is fascist and it's violent and we've had enough!"
Unless it was Aluko, Slav or the OP, its pretty irrelevant to this thread isn't it?
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2018, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Would you like to guess who said the following "Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is fascist and it's violent and we've had enough!"
Unless it was Aluko, Slav or the OP, its pretty irrelevant to this thread isn't it?
Who are you to say what is relevant or irrelevant? A serious question.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2018, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Would you like to guess who said the following "Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is fascist and it's violent and we've had enough!"
Unless it was Aluko, Slav or the OP, its pretty irrelevant to this thread isn't it?
Who are you to say what is relevant or irrelevant? A serious question.
Someone merely trying to keep the pettiness of off topic discussion to a genuine question posted by the OP on track. Do you think Aluko is a) worth 4m and b) EPL quality? and C) worthy of a squad place all things considered?
Aluko for 2/3 mill as a squad filler would be good buinsess. He deserves his spot after his contributions season before last
@FFC1987
Then your comment should have been directed at the first person to have taken the thread 'off topic'. Why pick on me?
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 11:02:48 AM
@FFC1987
Then your comment should have been directed at the first person to have taken the thread 'off topic'. Why pick on me?
Was just the last person to reply to that wasn't talking about specifically the Aluko transfer, nothing personal buddy, was just trying to get the discussion back to the OP topic. Should of probably used that reply filter thing better! Anyway, as squad filler, 2-3m as Fred said is probably fair especially if Slav wants him. Still got question marks on whether he'd contribute much but he certainly seems good for the changing room based on his social media interactions with current players.
No, not worth 4m. Not even on a free IMO. Fun to watch at his best but no end product, poor for Reading last season and would be a step backwards.
Having posts that are off topic is what makes threads interesting. Or the thread would consist of one word answers and be duller than the rumour of Aluko returning.
However the insults and the political and racist nonsense has no place here. Please stop it or it will be reported to the Mods.
It was a continual source of amusement last season that Reading having another 3 seasons of Aluko on big money.
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: fashion140 on June 25, 2018, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 24, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
An "intelligent articulate woman" who cannot take a joke and plays the 'race card' to gain favour.
This is a disappointing comment from someone who doesnt know the ins and outs of the case. You sound like an EDL member at best.
Maybe if you were still relevant comments like that could be the undoing of you. Alas, you are not.
The "ins and outs of the case" were widely reported (Aluko spoke to the press and the FA's report was published) so the poster likely knows them, and is entitled to draw his own conclusions.
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Statto are you on 12.5% or something?? Im sure old Nick is big enough to speak for himself. How would you know whether he knows the "ins and outs of the case" irrespective of whether they have been widely reported or not?? What a thick thing to say
And the EDL "a movement against islamic extremism"?? come on pal pull the other one hahahahhhahahah They are BNP / NF splinter group or at least thats what's been "widely reported".
Enjoy your evening
Quote from: fashion140 on June 26, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: fashion140 on June 25, 2018, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on June 24, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
An "intelligent articulate woman" who cannot take a joke and plays the 'race card' to gain favour.
This is a disappointing comment from someone who doesnt know the ins and outs of the case. You sound like an EDL member at best.
Maybe if you were still relevant comments like that could be the undoing of you. Alas, you are not.
The "ins and outs of the case" were widely reported (Aluko spoke to the press and the FA's report was published) so the poster likely knows them, and is entitled to draw his own conclusions.
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Statto are you on 12.5% or something?? Im sure old Nick is big enough to speak for himself. How would you know whether he knows the "ins and outs of the case" irrespective of whether they have been widely reported or not?? What a thick thing to say
And the EDL "a movement against islamic extremism"?? come on pal pull the other one hahahahhhahahah They are BNP / NF splinter group or at least thats what's been "widely reported".
Enjoy your evening
Snowflake???
When is Aluko signing, have the terms and conditions been agreed yet ?
This thread is seemingly being jumped all over by bored people on a hot Tuesday evening.
Having Aluko back is nonsense - he could hardly cut in the Champ and had one good season when he missed a hat full. We need Prem class players not squad fillers. Reading were rash and as they say, you reap what you sow (us with Fonte? Yes).
So stop all this nonsense please and cast thoughts forward to worthwhile additions to our squad, not make weights. They are two a penny.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2018, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Would you like to guess who said the following "Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is fascist and it's violent and we've had enough!"
Unless it was Aluko, Slav or the OP, its pretty irrelevant to this thread isn't it?
Who are you to say what is relevant or irrelevant? A serious question.
Wasn't it Churchill?
Has Aluko arrived at Motspur Park yet, have there been any recent sightings ?
It wasn't Churchill but he said similar which is not widely reported. Not a sentiment I share. On the subject I loved aluko and think he is better than what we had last season. BUT if he left because he wanted a long, lucrative contract why would we give it to him a year older in a better league?
Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on June 26, 2018, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 26, 2018, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 26, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Statto on June 25, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
Oh and what has the EDL, a movement against islamic extremism, got to do with an allegation of racism?
Would you like to guess who said the following "Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is fascist and it's violent and we've had enough!"
Unless it was Aluko, Slav or the OP, its pretty irrelevant to this thread isn't it?
Who are you to say what is relevant or irrelevant? A serious question.
Wasn't it Churchill?
I think it was one of a Trump 's advisers. Steve Bannon?
If I have learnt anything from this thread, it's don't take a post/rumour from TIFF and put it on here.
To make my comment relevant to the thread I would presuppose that any interest in Sone Aluko would be as mentor of some quality (kind of a Scott Parker figure) based, perhaps, on his influence over the season before last.
On the subject of threats about 'insults and racist nonsense' and the like, I am, as 'nose' once said, I am stunned. The lack of comprehension of some contributors is breathtaking.
On the subject of the quote question nobody has got close except for fashion140 who sums up EDL rather better than Statto did. The quote was from 'Tommy Robinson' (born Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) who co-founded EDL. For more information about this guy Wiki is priceless.
Quote from: MJG on June 27, 2018, 08:05:41 AM
If I have learnt anything from this thread, it's don't take a post/rumour from TIFF and put it on here.
Nonsense, we discuss rumours from anywhere happily all the time on FOF
.
When the first thick poster switched the discussion to his Sister the Mods should have squashed it.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 27, 2018, 08:23:20 AM
To make my comment relevant to the thread I would presuppose that any interest in Sone Aluko would be as mentor of some quality (kind of a Scott Parker figure) based, perhaps, on his influence over the season before last.
On the subject of threats about 'insults and racist nonsense' and the like, I am, as 'nose' once said, I am stunned. The lack of comprehension of some contributors is breathtaking.
On the subject of the quote question nobody has got close except for fashion140 who sums up EDL rather better than Statto did. The quote was from 'Tommy Robinson' (born Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) who co-founded EDL. For more information about this guy Wiki is priceless.
Hi Tosh, I agree with you. And I think you will find that Steve Bannon (rather more influential than T Richardson) lifted the quote and recycled it. An example of how easy it is for poison to go viral in our society where social media plays such a big part of shaping opinion.
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 27, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 27, 2018, 08:05:41 AM
If I have learnt anything from this thread, it's don't take a post/rumour from TIFF and put it on here.
Nonsense, we discuss rumours from anywhere happily all the time on FOF
.
When the first thick poster switched the discussion to his Sister the Mods should have squashed it.
I was being a bit tongue in cheek with my post.
Quote from: Statto on June 24, 2018, 05:00:53 PM
Normally I would agree with you - when someone criticises a woman it must mean they're sexist. But in this case the subject is black, so actually he may be racist. Obviously it must be one of the two.
This is where you started to make the whole thread a dog's dinner. Even if it is tongue-in-cheek it is crass.
