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Title: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: White Noise on October 04, 2010, 11:56:13 AM
It's back ON! Fulham keeper Mark Schwarzer still wants Arsenal move

By Sportsmail Reporter


Last updated at 11:15 AM on 4th October 2010


Fulham goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer has opened the door for a January move to Arsenal.

The Australia international was a target for Arsene Wenger during the summer transfer window - but the Gunners didn't budge on their £2m valuation of the custodian.

Schwarzer was desperate to seal a move to the Emirates Stadium and even handed in a transfer request to force a deal.

But boss Mark Hughes refused to sell his No 1, dashing the 37-year-old's hopes of a dream move - however Schwarzer hasn't given up joining the Gunners.

He said: 'A lot can happen between now and January. What will be, will be. If there's an opportunity in January, then we'll explore it."

'This is the only time in my career I have ever tried to force an issue.

'I don't have time on my side. If you were a 30-year-old you would walk away and say 'fair enough, I understand'.

'But I'm almost 38 and I want to fulfil an ambition. The sheer opportunity that was there. That was very flattering, but sometimes you've just got to grin and bear it and just get on with normal life again as much as possible.


'You just have to get your head down and work as hard as possible. It can affect your day-to-day life, and ultimately I am judged on how I perform week in, week out. If that performance drops, then no club is going to be interested in me.

'The bottom line is I've got to play well wherever I am.'


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Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: mrska on October 04, 2010, 12:00:11 PM
Let him go....

Shay Given must be getting fed up with his lack of first team opportunities.. Plus we've got Super David Stockdale!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Logicalman on October 04, 2010, 12:06:01 PM
Totally agree. And if MS believes that his recent form is indicative of a player getting his head down and working as hard as possible, then he should go now, before he lifts his head again (as he did during the Summer) sees the greener grass and causes us to start losing games.

Perhaps he should take a leaf out of his ex-managers book, and understand that an ambition might not be as easy to remain at, as one might think, unless just getting a reserves pay-check from Arsenal is all he is really about these days, if so, then sod off. :59:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: WhiteJC on October 04, 2010, 12:07:24 PM
I'd put Stockdale in as soon as he's fit, the lad did nothing wrong, far from it, and if Swartz wants to go, let him but give our new NUMBER 1 keeper plenty of time between the sticks and let arsenals new keeper sit on the bench
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Jimpav on October 04, 2010, 12:10:28 PM
This is a tricky one.

Do we take the money in January and bank on Stockdale staying fit and on form or do we keep the big Aussie and trust in him to be professional enough not to throw away our chances of  another shot at Europe.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on October 04, 2010, 12:48:39 PM
This is the line that gets me-'This is the only time in my career I have ever tried to force an issue."
so here's an open letter to our want away Keeper
Dear Mark
your a decent enough player,but we picked you up on a free,they weren't exactly breaking your door down then and when a "so called big team" wants you they only want to pay peanuts????
get a grip Skippy,your the cheap option,look at Roy,look at Bu££ard, the grass isn't greener on the other side. It doesn't matter really Mark,we have a young lad who wants to play for the team and who,at the moment,we have more faith in than we have in you.So come Jan you can go to the Arse and count your cash while being another scapegoat,another person to blame on why they didn't win the league :doh: :doh: :doh:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: mccscratch on October 04, 2010, 02:22:32 PM
Hey Mark... seeing as how we are 2 pts back from Arsenal...hows about helping with our ambition?

Woy was ambitious too... now he is well below us in the table...
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 04, 2010, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: White Noise on October 04, 2010, 11:56:13 AM
'But I’m almost 38 and I want to fulfil an ambition.
so fulham is not an ambition then hen?get lost you austrian aussie old git
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: finnster01 on October 04, 2010, 02:51:40 PM
Nah. He's an Aussie, and most Aussies I have ever met are top blokes and can be trusted. :045:

For a 38 year old though, he is a little too old to throw out all his toys from the pram.  :046:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 04, 2010, 03:05:32 PM
i'm quite certain that he's something like austrian or german or something like that  :49:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: cebu on October 04, 2010, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: fulhamwannabe on October 04, 2010, 03:05:32 PM
i'm quite certain that he's something like austrian or german or something like that  :49:

His parents were originally from Germany.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:21:31 PM
I am so sick of this! Good riddance!!!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: SmithyFFC on October 04, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
All talk. We'll see if Mr. Wenger comes back or bails on him in Jan and makes him look a muppet. We shall see.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:42:09 PM
Buh bye!  :038:  Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out Mark...
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Vinnieffc on October 04, 2010, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on October 04, 2010, 02:22:32 PM
Hey Mark... seeing as how we are 2 pts back from Arsenal...hows about helping with our ambition?

Woy was ambitious too... now he is well below us in the table...

As was Jimmy Bullard - and look at what happened to him !! :011:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: BestOfBrede on October 05, 2010, 08:17:37 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
Well said and good point re the press, But.... He isn't playing that great presently and you can't blame people for believing his head is elsewhere. I would prefer to see Stockdale get in and get more experience as we can't wait for Mark to decide what to do!!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
When someone is playing for you and there mind is somewhere else and wishing they were playing for another team, I don't know if I can completely trust that player. I want players who want to play for Fulham!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2010, 08:27:25 AM

[/quote]
He isn't playing that great presently and you can't blame people for believing his head is elsewhere. I would prefer to see Stockdale get in and get more experience as we can't wait for Mark to decide what to do!!
[/quote] Bingo! We have a winner and someone who gets it!!!  :54:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
When someone is playing for you and there mind is somewhere else and wishing they were playing for another team, I don't know if I can completely trust that player. I want players who want to play for Fulham!

You just don't get the sporting psyche of the UK and similar places. A man who was a good chunk of our teams performance and adventure in Europe, wishes to play at the highest level before he retires. If he can, let him.

I guess that is the difference between you and I, letting a good bloke have what he deserves.

If he wanted, he could be sitting on the bench each week, many have before him, and many will to come. But every saturday he stands between the sticks in his ugly keeping shirt and does his best for a club that promised him the chance to fulfil his dream but took it away from him without much of an explanation.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: NorthernWhite on October 05, 2010, 08:58:41 AM
I'd wish him well and hope we can get a top class replacement to vie with Stockdale for the no. 1 jersey.

I can't blame Mark, he's not 21 and it's his last chance to play in the Champions League and at the very highest level of the game. Who can really blame him for that and who wouldn't want the same themselves? I'm sure his head was all over the place for a bit but the last 2 games he's been back to his best. Did no-one watch the Everton game?

Good luck if he does go and thanks for the past 2.5 years as he's been the best keeper I've seen play for Fulham but make sure you're head is in the present until or if that opportunity arises.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2010, 09:01:31 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
When someone is playing for you and there mind is somewhere else and wishing they were playing for another team, I don't know if I can completely trust that player. I want players who want to play for Fulham!

You just don't get the sporting psyche of the UK and similar places. A man who was a good chunk of our teams performance and adventure in Europe, wishes to play at the highest level before he retires. If he can, let him.

I guess that is the difference between you and I, letting a good bloke have what he deserves.

If he wanted, he could be sitting on the bench each week, many have before him, and many will to come. But every saturday he stands between the sticks in his ugly keeping shirt and does his best for a club that promised him the chance to fulfil his dream but took it away from him without much of an explanation.
I absolutely have an American psyche and you need a killer instinct and want to play for that team. It is very clear that his head is some where else.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 09:03:52 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 09:01:31 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
When someone is playing for you and there mind is somewhere else and wishing they were playing for another team, I don't know if I can completely trust that player. I want players who want to play for Fulham!

You just don't get the sporting psyche of the UK and similar places. A man who was a good chunk of our teams performance and adventure in Europe, wishes to play at the highest level before he retires. If he can, let him.

I guess that is the difference between you and I, letting a good bloke have what he deserves.

If he wanted, he could be sitting on the bench each week, many have before him, and many will to come. But every saturday he stands between the sticks in his ugly keeping shirt and does his best for a club that promised him the chance to fulfil his dream but took it away from him without much of an explanation.
I absolutely have an American psyche and you need a killer instinct and want to play for that team. It is very clear that his head is some where else.

This is you.

CNNNN - Stupid Americans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ#ws)
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2010, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 09:03:52 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 09:01:31 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: michaelread on October 04, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
in before Tom says "LET THE A$$HOLE GO OMG HE'S SHYT AND SO OLD LIKE 98 +1!!!1!!1ONE!!1!"


but seriously, let him go, hes a great player and he has served us well.
Nice try. Do you want a player playing for you who wants to be here or player who continues to talk about playing for another team? Pretty simple question. I would play Stockdale as soon as he is healthy. He wants to be here and play for Fulham.

He does want to play for us, until January. Mark wants to play football, he wants to be the best he can be as an individual.

If that chance is with Fulham, he will have it, but if that chance is with Arsenal, he would like that too.

It is the Aussie media who are bringing this up, NOT Mark. He comes here, and all the hooplah is that little old Fulham are keeping one of OUR players out of the top 4! The media desperately want an Aussie playing for a top 4 side because it gives them more to cover to keep people interested. It is simple, there are more Arsenal fans than Fulham fans in Australia, a story about Fulham and Schwarzer will get less recognition than a story about Arsenal  and Schwarzer.

Mark is a servant of the game at international, european and club level. He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Fulham, who I love, are not one of the top clubs in the world as far as playing goes.

To answer your question, I am quite sure that Mark does want to play for Fulham. But he wants to play champions league football to top off his illustrious career and anyone who blames him for that doesn't have a heart. Feel lucky we do have an adequate replacement for when he leaves, and when Mark puts his body on the line week after week as teams attack his weakness of the longball, I'd love to see you do ONE mature thing on this board and pen a little bit of an apology to a man who will still give 110% to the club despite not being allowed to go to a club that lets him fulfill his dreams, after they promised him he could.
When someone is playing for you and there mind is somewhere else and wishing they were playing for another team, I don't know if I can completely trust that player. I want players who want to play for Fulham!

You just don't get the sporting psyche of the UK and similar places. A man who was a good chunk of our teams performance and adventure in Europe, wishes to play at the highest level before he retires. If he can, let him.

I guess that is the difference between you and I, letting a good bloke have what he deserves.

If he wanted, he could be sitting on the bench each week, many have before him, and many will to come. But every saturday he stands between the sticks in his ugly keeping shirt and does his best for a club that promised him the chance to fulfil his dream but took it away from him without much of an explanation.
I absolutely have an American psyche and you need a killer instinct and want to play for that team. It is very clear that his head is some where else.

This is you.

CNNNN - Stupid Americans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ#ws)
Your dumb! Keep believing that. I would gladly take you on in a knowledge test and sweep you under the rug!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: FC Silver Fox on October 05, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
Last July in this forum, I suggested giving Stockdale a chance in the 1st team and was politely shot down in flames. I now feel fully vindicated and entitled to have a 'I told you so' all over you.
However that would be childish, so I'll just be content with a 30 second supercillious smile before coming back to my usual humble self.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: michaelread on October 05, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 05, 2010, 09:01:31 AM
Your dumb! Keep believing that. I would gladly take you on in a knowledge test and sweep you under the rug!

Oh, the irony.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Nick the Swede on October 05, 2010, 09:41:19 AM
Bench him as soon as Stockdale is fit, but don't sell him under our evaluation price. Arsenal are trying the same antics with us as they criticize Barcelona for doing. I.e. Tapping up other clubs players and then refusing to pay the asking price.

Let him go, but only for the right price. It is up to the club to decide, NOT the player.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: LBNo11 on October 05, 2010, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: Nick the Swede on October 05, 2010, 09:41:19 AM
Bench him as soon as Stockdale is fit, but don't sell him under our evaluation price. Arsenal are trying the same antics with us as they criticize Barcelona for doing. I.e. Tapping up other clubs players and then refusing to pay the asking price.

Let him go, but only for the right price. It is up to the club to decide, NOT the player.

...absolutely spot-on Nick, I would not be annoyed at Mark trying to finish his career on a CL high. Black Mark has stated he has at least two good years in him, and his worth to a club with ambition is more than the £2 million that Ar$e-in-Vinegar is insulting us with - Whinger uses the very same tactics with us that he openly deplores when used against him, but as ever he is myopic when it suits him.

But, before we sell him we must find a suitable replacement, and as Whinger has found to his cost, they aren't easy to come by. If Stockdale gets injured or poached, we would be seriousy in the mire...



PS: michaelread and Tom, cool it, take this as a cyber knocking of heads together, agree to disagree, but stop antagonising each other for FoFs sake..! :028:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Lighthouse on October 05, 2010, 10:17:05 AM
Why does it feel it worth answering these questions when he knows it makes him unpopular with the club and fans he is playing for. My advice to our 'past his best, overrated Keeper. Shut Up and do the job for the people who employ you.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: epsomraver on October 05, 2010, 10:20:44 AM
This could all be regurgitated  rubbish , no body knows when and if Swarz said this
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Lighthouse on October 05, 2010, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on October 05, 2010, 10:20:44 AM
This could all be regurgitated  rubbish , no body knows when and if Swarz said this

Do we know that anything we read is true? In fact do we know that what we see is what others see? Is reality just a dream sequence in an old film that has gained substance because those watching believed it to be true? Are the people watching the film just the imagination of the person who made the film? Are the people in the film real or did they imagine the people watching them and the man who made it? Do any of us really exist? What is truth? One mans murderer is another man hero. He who laughs last had only just understood the joke.

Swart said it when he joined the Aussie team when he was asked. But does him saying it and us not being there to hear it mean the tree never fell in the woods? Discuss is very close to discus.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: White Noise on October 05, 2010, 10:42:38 AM
We know the 'Da Vinci Code' is true Lighthouse because Dan Brown helpfully points out what are the facts at the begining of the book. Except that was just artistic creativity and almost none of it is true. Anyone else see that documentary last night? Thats an hour of my life I won't get back. :019:

Schwarzers comments have the ring of desperation about them and my conclusion is that Sparky has had his efforts at a new contract rebuffed and is therefore looking to make the same offer as in the last window - if I can get someone in you can go.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: epsomraver on October 05, 2010, 10:45:33 AM
Wenger is raving now how good the young Italian is now so Swarz could be surplus to requirements
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Burt on October 05, 2010, 12:41:22 PM
Lazy space-filling journalism alert...
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: White Noise on October 05, 2010, 12:45:06 PM
Quote from: Burt on October 05, 2010, 12:41:22 PM
Lazy space-filling journalism alert...

Is there a little yellow face for that?
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Burt on October 05, 2010, 12:59:13 PM
Take your pick from any of the following:

:020:  :020:  :020:  :020:  :020:  :020:  :020:  :020:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: HatterDon on October 05, 2010, 04:22:53 PM
Something that seems to have totally escaped the notice of Tom and others is that if Mark really DOES want to go, it is in his best interests to play at the highest level possible. There is nobody on Gods Green Earth that wants a player who dogs it so his side will let him leave. As well as Fabianski played v. The Undead, and as promising as Mannone is [remember how he single-handedly saved Arsenal from losing 7-1 at the Cottage? I bet AJ does,since the Fat Italian Kid cost him a hattrick on the day], Marks going to have to do wonders for Fulham if he's going to get that big brass ring.

Schwarzer will give his very best for 90 minutes every time he's between the sticks. He, like all athletes, suffers a loss of form from time to time. I believe he's just coming out of one of his rare down periods. And, let's face it. Which player on our squad would turn down a chance to play in the starting XI at Barca, at Inter, at United for that matter? If they weren't ambitious in the first place, they'd be playing Sunday league. Besides, where is the "loyalty" when the board decides there's a prettier girl down the road and kicks you out the back door?

Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: White Noise on October 05, 2010, 10:42:38 AM
We know the 'Da Vinci Code' is true
jesus never got married,lol
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: finnster01 on October 05, 2010, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: White Noise on October 05, 2010, 10:42:38 AM
We know the 'Da Vinci Code' is true
jesus never got married,lol
Here we go again, don't you know when to stop?

Thank you and good night  :red:


Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 07:48:24 PM
 :005: :005: :005:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: LBNo11 on October 05, 2010, 08:19:47 PM
...fulhamwannabe - I am not laughing, remember my 'probation' comment in the PM.. :046:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 08:31:34 PM
Quote from: LBNo11 on October 05, 2010, 08:19:47 PM
...fulhamwannabe - I am not laughing, remember my 'probation' comment in the PM.. :046:
what probation?what did i do now then?if you want to ban me,you can do it while on probation or not can't you?
so what's the point?ah well,you're the boss sir
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Peabody on October 05, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
If Mark wants to leave, if Mark said this, if Mark said that. Here we go again, jumping on a band wagon that no one knows for certain is true. I am afraid that too many of you beleive what the press say and too many of you forget what a hero was over the last two seasons. How can you make idiotic statements like "we dont want players who dont want us". You all have very short memories. Just remember, MS is a professional sportsman and as such will carry on doing his best for us. Especially if he does want to leave.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: Peabody on October 05, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
Especially if he does want to leave.
but clearly,everybody sees that he wants to leave!!!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Peabody on October 05, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
That is different from saying he wants to leave because no one but MS knows the answer to that. And everybody is not MS.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 09:01:37 PM
wanting to join another club in my opinion is wanting to leave the actual club you're in,or may be my english is getting a bit mixed up  :032:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Scrumpy on October 05, 2010, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: Peabody on October 05, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
If Mark wants to leave, if Mark said this, if Mark said that. Here we go again, jumping on a band wagon that no one knows for certain is true. I am afraid that too many of you beleive what the press say and too many of you forget what a hero was over the last two seasons. How can you make idiotic statements like "we dont want players who dont want us". You all have very short memories. Just remember, MS is a professional sportsman and as such will carry on doing his best for us. Especially if he does want to leave.
Amen to that, Peabody.

Also, plenty of people have made the huge assumption that Schwarz refused to play recently when he had his alleged back problems. Personally, I think it is more likely that it was Mark Hughes' decision that he should not play while his future at The Club was in doubt. I can understand both viewpoints - but it would  be a shame if Schwarzer's image was tarnished by this episode. It was only last year that we were saying he was a better keeper than VDS.

A top  man and a top Keeper in my book. :045: :Sparkyticus:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 09:07:59 PM
better than vds? :011: :012:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Peabody on October 05, 2010, 09:22:22 PM
Quote from: fulhamwannabe on October 05, 2010, 09:01:37 PM
wanting to join another club in my opinion is wanting to leave the actual club you're in,or may be my english is getting a bit mixed up  :032:
.
And that is all any of this is peoples opinions, to which they are perfectly entitled to but that dont make it fact.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: simplyfulham on October 06, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
To be honest Tom I ink your being pretty naive and idealistic about the shwarzer deal. (no disrespect Tom, yours isn't an uncommon view, but it's easier to address one person then many, I actually  appreciate all your efforts and posts here) 

You blame a 38 pro for wanting to ply his trade at a higher level. He won't get another chance, so when a team as massive as arsenal comes in he's obviously going to want to sign.  

Remember he didn't invite any interest in the summer, it was Arsenal who came after him. We asked for more money and arsenal weren't forthcoming until too late. If arsenal payed the fee we would of let him go by now I'm sure. But Schwarz understands all this, he's a pro. And if he does have champs league ambitions, then he needs to be playing well for arsenal to stay interested and for fulham to get the price he asked foe (rumoured to be 4mil)

Football is a profession now, the sentimentality you'd like to see him show and stay at he club for his whole career just doesn't exist! Remember he did turn down many offers to join us, including bayern munich so maybe you should be grateful we've had a keeper who is essentially above our station, for so long
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: TonyGilroy on October 06, 2010, 09:42:37 AM
I don't blame him for wanting to go to Arsenal. If he still has that ambition he needs to play well for us so we can't lose.

The reason he didn't go was mainly because Arsenal didn't give us time to find a replacement. Having rejected their offer they waited until the last minute to try to push the deal through.

If Arsenal really wanted him (or any other keeper) I don't understand why they didn't get things sorted early in the transfer window by paying the appropriate fee and giving the selling club ample time to find a replacement.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
I can understand people getting upset that one of our better players wants to play Champions League, I can also understand MS wanting to reach that level. What I cant understand is the name calling(Tom) that, imo is totally uncalled for. Perhaps its my generation, I dunno but let me take you back to Johnny Haynes days, when he was being courted by the Italian clubs, as you would expect, the press was doing their damnedest to make any move happen but did we, as Fulham fans start harrassing Johnny? no we did'nt and we fully understood his situation. Thankfully he stayed with us. What is my point? well you/we cannot influence a players decision as to whether he stays or goes but you can express your disappointment without name calling, surely.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 06, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
To be honest Tom I ink your being pretty naive and idealistic about the shwarzer deal. (no disrespect Tom, yours isn't an uncommon view, but it's easier to address one person then many, I actually  appreciate all your efforts and posts here)

You blame a 38 pro for wanting to ply his trade at a higher level. He won't get another chance, so when a team as massive as arsenal comes in he's obviously going to want to sign.  

Remember he didn't invite any interest in the summer, it was Arsenal who came after him. We asked for more money and arsenal weren't forthcoming until too late. If arsenal payed the fee we would of let him go by now I'm sure. But Schwarz understands all this, he's a pro. And if he does have champs league ambitions, then he needs to be playing well for arsenal to stay interested and for fulham to get the price he asked foe (rumoured to be 4mil)

Football is a profession now, the sentimentality you'd like to see him show and stay at he club for his whole career just doesn't exist! Remember he did turn down many offers to join us, including bayern munich so maybe you should be grateful we've had a keeper who is essentially above our station, for so long
I don't blame him at all. If he wants to go, let him go. My simple point is that I want players here who want to play for Fulham and give Fulham 100% and not have there minds else where. But when someone doesn't want to be here, they usually don't give a 100% and there mind and body aren't always there and I think that has been pretty clear and a fair point. Do you not agree with that? If you owned a business, you would want someone to work for you that wants to be there and not someone who works for you not giving a 100% and talking about working for a different company. If you guys don't get that or see that, then I don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: SmithyFFC on October 06, 2010, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 06, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
To be honest Tom I ink your being pretty naive and idealistic about the shwarzer deal. (no disrespect Tom, yours isn't an uncommon view, but it's easier to address one person then many, I actually  appreciate all your efforts and posts here)

You blame a 38 pro for wanting to ply his trade at a higher level. He won't get another chance, so when a team as massive as arsenal comes in he's obviously going to want to sign.  

Remember he didn't invite any interest in the summer, it was Arsenal who came after him. We asked for more money and arsenal weren't forthcoming until too late. If arsenal payed the fee we would of let him go by now I'm sure. But Schwarz understands all this, he's a pro. And if he does have champs league ambitions, then he needs to be playing well for arsenal to stay interested and for fulham to get the price he asked foe (rumoured to be 4mil)

Football is a profession now, the sentimentality you'd like to see him show and stay at he club for his whole career just doesn't exist! Remember he did turn down many offers to join us, including bayern munich so maybe you should be grateful we've had a keeper who is essentially above our station, for so long
I don't blame him at all. If he wants to go, let him go. My simple point is that I want players here who want to play for Fulham and give Fulham 100% and not have there minds else where. But when someone doesn't want to be here, they usually don't give a 100% and there mind and body aren't always there and I think that has been pretty clear and a fair point. Do you not agree with that? If you owned a business, you would want someone to work for you that wants to be there and not someone who works for you not giving a 100% and talking about working for a different company. If you guys don't get that or see that, then I don't know what else to say.

How can you tell he is not 100% committed to playing well for Fulham because hes said he'd be open to exploring any offers? Hes just saying that if an offer comes from Arsenal (or anywhere else) he will consider it. He hasn't come out and had a go at Hughes or the club has he? I'm sure he will give 100% whilst at Fulham, and as long as he is, I will give him my support as I'm sure everyone else will.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:29:31 PM
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on October 06, 2010, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on October 06, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
To be honest Tom I ink your being pretty naive and idealistic about the shwarzer deal. (no disrespect Tom, yours isn't an uncommon view, but it's easier to address one person then many, I actually  appreciate all your efforts and posts here)

You blame a 38 pro for wanting to ply his trade at a higher level. He won't get another chance, so when a team as massive as arsenal comes in he's obviously going to want to sign.  

Remember he didn't invite any interest in the summer, it was Arsenal who came after him. We asked for more money and arsenal weren't forthcoming until too late. If arsenal payed the fee we would of let him go by now I'm sure. But Schwarz understands all this, he's a pro. And if he does have champs league ambitions, then he needs to be playing well for arsenal to stay interested and for fulham to get the price he asked foe (rumoured to be 4mil)

Football is a profession now, the sentimentality you'd like to see him show and stay at he club for his whole career just doesn't exist! Remember he did turn down many offers to join us, including bayern munich so maybe you should be grateful we've had a keeper who is essentially above our station, for so long
I don't blame him at all. If he wants to go, let him go. My simple point is that I want players here who want to play for Fulham and give Fulham 100% and not have there minds else where. But when someone doesn't want to be here, they usually don't give a 100% and there mind and body aren't always there and I think that has been pretty clear and a fair point. Do you not agree with that? If you owned a business, you would want someone to work for you that wants to be there and not someone who works for you not giving a 100% and talking about working for a different company. If you guys don't get that or see that, then I don't know what else to say.

How can you tell he is not 100% committed to playing well for Fulham because hes said he'd be open to exploring any offers? Hes just saying that if an offer comes from Arsenal (or anywhere else) he will consider it. He hasn't come out and had a go at Hughes or the club has he? I'm sure he will give 100% whilst at Fulham, and as long as he is, I will give him my support as I'm sure everyone else will.
He has not played well this year at all. When there is smoke, there is usually fire my friends.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: SmithyFFC on October 06, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
He has not played well this year at all.

Funny, we'd have lost to Everton without him, he made a couple of mistakes against Stoke and was beaten up by Blackburn. I think hes ok.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on October 06, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
He has not played well this year at all.

Funny, we'd have lost to Everton without him, he made a couple of mistakes against Stoke and was beaten up by Blackburn. I think hes ok.
Key word being ok. Last year he played very well and there was not talk of him leaving or being distracted by that.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on October 06, 2010, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on October 06, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
He has not played well this year at all.

Funny, we'd have lost to Everton without him, he made a couple of mistakes against Stoke and was beaten up by Blackburn. I think hes ok.
Key word being ok. Last year he played very well and there was not talk of him leaving or being distracted by that.

He has had two rough games against sides who notoriously target keepers. He is still the best keeper at the club. I would let him sign for Arsenal at the end of the season provided he puts a shift in for us this year, which I have no doubt he will do.

The interesting thing is that Arsenal have been quiet since the transfer deadline and it is the Aussie press kicking up a fuss by asking him his intentions every time he goes on international duty. I think the fact that Wenger refused to pay us £4m speaks volumes about how much they are ACTUALLY interested in Mark.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on October 06, 2010, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on October 06, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
He has not played well this year at all.

Funny, we'd have lost to Everton without him, he made a couple of mistakes against Stoke and was beaten up by Blackburn. I think hes ok.
Key word being ok. Last year he played very well and there was not talk of him leaving or being distracted by that.

He has had two rough games against sides who notoriously target keepers. He is still the best keeper at the club. I would let him sign for Arsenal at the end of the season provided he puts a shift in for us this year, which I have no doubt he will do.

The interesting thing is that Arsenal have been quiet since the transfer deadline and it is the Aussie press kicking up a fuss by asking him his intentions every time he goes on international duty. I think the fact that Wenger refused to pay us £4m speaks volumes about how much they are ACTUALLY interested in Mark.
I think that they see that is he on the downside of his career now.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: fulhamwannabe on October 06, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:29:31 PM
He has not played well this year at all. When there is smoke, there is usually fire my friends.
that's because he doesn't want to stay,his mind is with arsenal
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: SmithyFFC on October 06, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on October 06, 2010, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on October 06, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
He has not played well this year at all.

Funny, we'd have lost to Everton without him, he made a couple of mistakes against Stoke and was beaten up by Blackburn. I think hes ok.
Key word being ok. Last year he played very well and there was not talk of him leaving or being distracted by that.

He has had two rough games against sides who notoriously target keepers. He is still the best keeper at the club. I would let him sign for Arsenal at the end of the season provided he puts a shift in for us this year, which I have no doubt he will do.

The interesting thing is that Arsenal have been quiet since the transfer deadline and it is the Aussie press kicking up a fuss by asking him his intentions every time he goes on international duty. I think the fact that Wenger refused to pay us £4m speaks volumes about how much they are ACTUALLY interested in Mark.

Tom, what more could he have done to prove he has not been distracted? And can you imagine he diffucult it must have been for him knowing that one of the biggest clubs in Europe were after him? I'm sure he tryd to resolve the situation quickly however, we couldn't do business with no manager. He therefore had to wait and by the time Hughes came in there was no time for us to find a capable replacement.

Personally, I think he will now end up finishing his career with us, Wenger was tempted by a 37 year old nearing 38, if we can hold out til the summer, will he really want a 38 year old going on 39? I doubt it.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: simplyfulham on October 06, 2010, 04:57:25 PM
I understand the want to have players soley interested in playing for fulham but there are 2 points to remember here. 

1) fulham refused the bid because it wasn't acceptable for the club. As much as I'm sure Mark liked the idea of stepping up once arsenals interest was confirmed, he understands that. He could of really thrown his toys out the pram ala robinho, ronaldo and van hooijdonk. But he did begrudging accept this is arsenals fault.

2) your right and he did openly admit that this did affect him mentally, presumably this is why he was "injured" at the start of the season. But he knows if he wants a shot at moving to arsenal in January he needs to be playing at his best. 

fulham only ever wanted arsenal to meet their valuation. Mark could have let a want away player leave for less but personnally I'm glad he took a stand against the 'big 4's bullying technique when it comes to transfers.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: HatterDon on October 06, 2010, 05:05:09 PM
Can we get Tom a "Schwarzer go to hell" smilie to save him all that typing?


If that works, we can get Mr. Finn a "I don't care what you say; Eddie Johnson sucks" smilie as well!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
Tom it dose'nt matter what you want, or for that matter what I want, or indeed what any fan wants. At the moment Mark is staying with us, if the time comes whether a decision has to be made as to his future, then that will be made by Mark Hughes.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Burt on October 06, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
Quote from: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
Tom it dose'nt matter what you want, or for that matter what I want, or indeed what any fan wants. At the moment Mark is staying with us, if the time comes whether a decision has to be made as to his future, then that will be made by Mark Hughes.

Same as what Mr Peabody said.

A succinct summary of the situation.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Motown on October 06, 2010, 08:17:41 PM
If Mr Schwarzer remains 'keen' then he can go in the January window, having seen out his contract with this club. He didn't leave in the summer because we had no adequate replacement and our newly-arrived manager didn't see fit to roll over for Arsenal's pee-taking activity. The interests of our club remain paramount, not Mr Schwarzer's or any other individual who is duly contracted. Hughes will have a quality keeper in his cross-hairs well before New Year and we will have Stockers.
What is required from MS is that he FULLY honours his commitment to FFC before taking his ageing abilities up the Arse - assuming they're still required..... :dft003:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: SmithyFFC on October 06, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 06, 2010, 05:05:09 PM
Can we get Tom a "Schwarzer go to hell" smilie to save him all that typing?


If that works, we can get Mr. Finn a "I don't care what you say; Eddie Johnson sucks" smilie as well!

Does this mean we can also get a 'I don't care what Hodgson does at Liverpool hes not our manager anymore' smilie?  :045:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: michaelread on October 07, 2010, 12:14:58 AM
Tom, I have followed Mark's career for a long, long, long time.

As an Aussie, MS is my favourite player in terms of his ability, commitment, sportsmanship, and overall, his good morals and outstanding loyalty to those who show faith in him. He works hard for the community, he works hard for the club. On the preseason tour, Mark and JP were the ONLY players who bothered to meet the fans who had travelled across Australia (a huge freakin place) just to see them play.

As a professional, Mark wants to reach the highest point he can in his career as a footballer. That is to win the champions league, or win the premier league. (He sure wont win a world cup as an aussie, perhaps he should declare for germany)

He has every right to want to progress in his career. He is not holding us for ransom, he is not walking out the door, he is not protesting and letting goals in and (despite Stockdales wonderful, and truly lucky, performances) Mark has been the best keeper for us this year. We would not be an undefeated side without Mark.

Mark is still in the top category of keepers in the WORLD. We should be thankful that the stars didnt align and we get his services again for another few months.

Personally, as a Fulham fan, a Mark Schwarzer fan, and a FOOTBALL fan, I wish any honest player all the accolades they can achieve in their careers, as there arent many hardworking, honest players left.

Watching Diego Forlan win the Europa League hurt less than we expected. Why? Because he is class, on AND off the pitch, just like our own Mark Schwarzer. He has served us well.

Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2010, 03:55:51 AM
Quote from: fulhamwannabe on October 06, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 06, 2010, 04:29:31 PM
He has not played well this year at all. When there is smoke, there is usually fire my friends.
that's because he doesn't want to stay,his mind is with arsenal
That is what I have been trying to get across on the board.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2010, 06:21:35 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 06, 2010, 05:05:09 PM
Can we get Tom a "Schwarzer go to hell" smilie to save him all that typing?


If that works, we can get Mr. Finn a "I don't care what you say; Eddie Johnson sucks" smilie as well!
I don't want Schwarzer to go to hell. I like Schwarzer. I just wants players playing for Fulham, dedicated to Fulham.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2010, 06:22:49 AM
Quote from: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
Tom it dose'nt matter what you want, or for that matter what I want, or indeed what any fan wants. At the moment Mark is staying with us, if the time comes whether a decision has to be made as to his future, then that will be made by Mark Hughes.
Thanks for that wonderful insight Peabody.  :002:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2010, 06:32:41 AM
Quote from: michaelread on October 07, 2010, 12:14:58 AM
Tom, I have followed Mark's career for a long, long, long time.

As an Aussie, MS is my favourite player in terms of his ability, commitment, sportsmanship, and overall, his good morals and outstanding loyalty to those who show faith in him. He works hard for the community, he works hard for the club. On the preseason tour, Mark and JP were the ONLY players who bothered to meet the fans who had travelled across Australia (a huge freakin place) just to see them play.

As a professional, Mark wants to reach the highest point he can in his career as a footballer. That is to win the champions league, or win the premier league. (He sure wont win a world cup as an aussie, perhaps he should declare for germany)

He has every right to want to progress in his career. He is not holding us for ransom, he is not walking out the door, he is not protesting and letting goals in and (despite Stockdales wonderful, and truly lucky, performances) Mark has been the best keeper for us this year. We would not be an undefeated side without Mark.

Mark is still in the top category of keepers in the WORLD. We should be thankful that the stars didnt align and we get his services again for another few months.

Personally, as a Fulham fan, a Mark Schwarzer fan, and a FOOTBALL fan, I wish any honest player all the accolades they can achieve in their careers, as there arent many hardworking, honest players left.

Watching Diego Forlan win the Europa League hurt less than we expected. Why? Because he is class, on AND off the pitch, just like our own Mark Schwarzer. He has served us well.


That is great Michael, I have no problem with Mark being one of your favorite players. I had no problem with Mark until all this stuff started coming out saying he wanted to play for another team. All I am saying is you want players who want to play for you. If a player is wanting to play for another team, who knows what kind of effort you are getting from them and where there mind is. Mark was great for us last year and this year just so-so at best. I have no problem with Mark wanting to play for a bigger club but you don't make that public, keep that to himself. Making that public is just plain stupid. If fans are loyal, shouldn't players be loyal to there teams? On a more serious note, good luck on finding a new job!
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: HatterDon on October 07, 2010, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on October 06, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 06, 2010, 05:05:09 PM
Can we get Tom a "Schwarzer go to hell" smilie to save him all that typing?


If that works, we can get Mr. Finn a "I don't care what you say; Eddie Johnson sucks" smilie as well!

Does this mean we can also get a 'I don't care what Hodgson does at Liverpool hes not our manager anymore' smilie?  :045:

Sure Mr. Ff2!!  :011:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Peabody on October 07, 2010, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 07, 2010, 06:22:49 AM
Quote from: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
Tom it dose'nt matter what you want, or for that matter what I want, or indeed what any fan wants. At the moment Mark is staying with us, if the time comes whether a decision has to be made as to his future, then that will be made by Mark Hughes.
Thanks for that wonderful insight Peabody.  :002:
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Thanks for that Tom!. Good to see you expressing your opinions without namecalling, though I am not sure about sarcasm
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2010, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: Peabody on October 07, 2010, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 07, 2010, 06:22:49 AM
Quote from: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
Tom it dose'nt matter what you want, or for that matter what I want, or indeed what any fan wants. At the moment Mark is staying with us, if the time comes whether a decision has to be made as to his future, then that will be made by Mark Hughes.
Thanks for that wonderful insight Peabody.  :002:
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Thanks for that Tom!. Good to see you expressing your opinions without namecalling, though I am not sure about sarcasm
Pure sarcasm Peabody.
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on October 07, 2010, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 07, 2010, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: Peabody on October 07, 2010, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: Tom on October 07, 2010, 06:22:49 AM
Quote from: Peabody on October 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
Tom it dose'nt matter what you want, or for that matter what I want, or indeed what any fan wants. At the moment Mark is staying with us, if the time comes whether a decision has to be made as to his future, then that will be made by Mark Hughes.
Thanks for that wonderful insight Peabody.  :002:
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Thanks for that Tom!. Good to see you expressing your opinions without namecalling, though I am not sure about sarcasm
Pure sarcasm Peabody.
:wum: I always thought that Americans only did sarcasm anyway :015:
Title: Re: Schwarzer Still Keen On Arsenal Move
Post by: White Noise on October 10, 2010, 04:58:43 PM

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6437099,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6437099,00.html)


Schwarzer might still leave


Aussie keeper may yet secure dream move to Gunners


Last updated: 10th October 2010

   
Mark Schwarzer has refused to rule out the possibility of completing a much-touted switch to Arsenal during the January transfer window.

The Fulham goalkeeper was heavily linked with a move to Emirates Stadium over the summer, having made it clear that he wished to join the Gunners.

In the end a deal failed to materialise, with the Cottagers reluctant to part with their first-choice keeper without first finding a replacement.

Arsenal could return in the winter window, though, as Arsene Wenger is still to address his own issues between the sticks.

Schwarzer admits anything is possible, but has hinted that he would welcome the opportunity to test himself at the highest possible level.

Hectic
"Who knows, we will have to wait and see," he told Sky Sports News when asked if he could still end up at Arsenal.

"I'm very happy at Fulham. The supporters have been unbelievable and I've enjoyed every minute.

"It's been a very hectic two months or so and the fans have been great to me. I am enjoying my football again."

Schwarzer added: "I think when you look at the opportunity that was in front of me, I don't think anyone can begrudge me exploring that opportunity.

"The club actually asked me if I was interested in exploring the opportunity, and I was. I'm not getting any younger, unfortunately, and you always want to better yourself."