From Sess, is going to be lightweight in this league for a while.
Think Slav needs to be clever in how he uses him.
For me AK needs more of a look in on the left.
Nope disagree. Think AK is still too raw for this level, he's good as an impact sub but you could see today that he's not going to track back - he left Sessegnon horribly exposed as left back.
thought sess was miles better than schurrle. was hoping for sess and ak to start next game, but i reckon sess will go to lb
Totally disagree with the OP.
Sessegnon looked just like he did in the Championship. He has never been the type to skin people or do anything outrageous but his first touch and brain are truly world class, and every time he gets the ball he can be relied upon to find another white shirt or the back of the net.
For contrast Schurrle on the other side was no better, and actually IMO looked like a 38 year old version of Sess.
Will be even more worried if Sess goes left back as he struggled in that position in the Championship. At least AK gives us a bit muscle which Sess is far from at the moment.
Thought Sess did OK today. Don't forget he's still a teenager, and so to play like he does at this level is phenomenal.
Also liked the look of Schurrle, although he did fade as the game progressed so not sure about his fitness.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 11, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
thought sess was miles better than schurrle. was hoping for sess and ak to start next game, but i reckon sess will go to lb
No way, Schurrle was actually quite good. Hands down Schurrle is the most intelligent and experienced player on Fulham's side.
Sess didn't look out of place, but he wasn't super aggressive today.
Sess was okay, if not overly creative. He will get used to the Premier League and will score goals for sure. He nearly got in a few times. Schurrle looked good to me and will only get better. He was denied a clear penalty from a great piece of play.
Le Marchand can play at left back, and did today- well.
His pace, first touch, vision and ability to get behind the defence means Sess has to play (predominantly) advanced left wing with an occasional dalliance flip flopping left and right. Not only is he wasted out of these positions but the whole team lose formation (dont know why) when he plays left back...
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on August 11, 2018, 07:08:48 PM
Le Marchand can play at left back, and did today- well.
I thought Bryan was left back and Marchand left centre?
He was, but when Bryan went off injured, Le Marchand stepped into the breach.
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on August 11, 2018, 07:35:45 PM
He was, but when Bryan went off injured, Le Marchand stepped into the breach.
Sess went to left back and absolutely bottled it for their second goal
Sessegnon was badly at fault for their second goal, and I hope I never have to see him play at left back ever again,
Reportedly Spurs offered us £60 million PLUS Danny Rose for him, we would be stronger with Rose in our back four and Schurrle can play wide left.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 11, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
thought sess was miles better than schurrle. was hoping for sess and ak to start next game, but i reckon sess will go to lb
I disagree. I think Schurrle was more dangerous. But Sess has never played at this level so he'll take a few games to get up to speed. I will say he was making some good runs and played a good pass that nearly found Schurrle.
Quote from: Riversider on August 11, 2018, 07:48:43 PM
Sessegnon was badly at fault for their second goal, and I hope I never have to see him play at left back ever again,
Reportedly Spurs offered us £60 million PLUS Danny Rose for him, we would be stronger with Rose in our back four and Schurrle can play wide left.
I find that hard to believe. Levy has never paid more than half that fee. More likely it was £20m plus Rose and I think Rose to be a little overrated, plus he'd be on big wages.
Everyone of our squad will grow into the PL. Most of them havn´t even unpacked their bags yet. They will gel when Slavisa has a fully fit squad to work with.
If that was the case Rose plus cash would of been a great deal.
That's one of the things I notice about Sess is he never likes to take a player on.
He does well getting in various positions but going forward seems to get the ball stuck
under his feet or passes sideways.
We need better in this division and better support for Mitro
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
That's one of the things I notice about Sess is he never likes to take a player on.
He does well getting in various positions but going forward seems to get the ball stuck
under his feet or passes sideways.
We need better in this division and better support for Mitro
You seem content with Mitro but when does Mitro take anyone on? He isn't exactly Maradona himself. Sessegnon is as good at LW as Mitro is at CF. Neither is world class (yet) but both are still good players even at this level.
The difference is mitro had a good game as did the palace keeper.
Sess was lightweight and and did near to nothing.
Given half the prem is better than palace we need this sorted.
It's not a dig at Sess but it's like I said we need to be clever in how we use him.
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 08:39:57 PM
The difference is mitro had a good game as did the palace keeper.
Sess was lightweight and and did near to nothing.
Given half the prem is better than palace we need this sorted.
It's not a dig at Sess but it's like I said we need to be clever in how we use him.
I didn't particularly think mitro had a good game. In fact I thought a whole attack was pretty toothless.
Mitro played well, he was strong and had a couple of decent chances
given he was up there by himself. On another day he would of scored 1 or 2.
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
That's one of the things I notice about Sess is he never likes to take a player on.
He does well getting in various positions but going forward seems to get the ball stuck
under his feet or passes sideways.
We need better in this division and better support for Mitro
Dribbling is something he'll need to improve if he going to be a forward or winger.
Am I actually reading this word - "lightweight"?
FFS
If we had Pele and Maradona on each flank some Neil Warnock-types on this forum would still complain they're too lightweight.
We should play Akinfenwa and Butterbean up front.
10 out of 10 for observation statto - well done!
Yes lightweight he was and we will have a problem this season unless it changes.
Palace are not a top 10 team and he struggled.
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 09:03:57 PM
10 out of 10 for observation statto - well done!
Yes lightweight he was and we will have a problem this season unless it changes.
Palace are not a top 10 team and he struggled.
Lol, you do realise Palace finished joint 10th last season don't you?
And look at their results from November (when we were 17th) and they would have been 6th/7th best in the league
And I'm pretty sure their best player is lighter than Sesegnon
Their best player more lightweight than Sess?
What you been smoking Statto? Can I have some?
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 09:21:35 PM
Their best player more lightweight than Sess?
What you been smoking Statto? Can I have some?
http://www.espnfc.com/player/241328/ryan-sessegnon
http://www.espnfc.com/player/146324/wilfried-zaha
Same height, Sessegnon 10lbs heavier.
Sess won nothing all afternoon Statto. We can all pull off the weight and height stats on any player but it means f all. It's about how they play on the and Sess was kicked off the ball 9 times out of 10. Sess created nothing all day suggest you watch the highlights buddy.
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 09:46:40 PM
Sess won nothing all afternoon Statto. We can all pull off the weight and height stats on any player but it means f all. It's about how they play on the and Sess was kicked off the ball 9 times out of 10. Sess created nothing all day suggest you watch the highlights buddy.
Don't patronise me. If you want to spout an opinion you're entitled to do that. It's a silly opinion, bit like those people who think the world is run by shapeshifting lizards and that sort of thing, but you and they are entitled to that opinion of course. As for saying Palace aren't a top 10 team and Zaha isn't as "lightweight" as Sessegnon, unfortunately those are matters of fact, not opinion, so you've just mugged yourself off.
BTW when you watch the highlights you might want to catch the AK47-Zaha incident, referred to on another thread, as an indicator of how heavyweight Zaha is.
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 09:46:40 PM
Sess won nothing all afternoon Statto. We can all pull off the weight and height stats on any player but it means f all. It's about how they play on the and Sess was kicked off the ball 9 times out of 10. Sess created nothing all day suggest you watch the highlights buddy.
Quote from: Benny on August 11, 2018, 09:46:40 PM
Sess won nothing all afternoon Statto. We can all pull off the weight and height stats on any player but it means f all. It's about how they play on the and Sess was kicked off the ball 9 times out of 10. Sess created nothing all day suggest you watch the highlights buddy.
You obviously don't like the lad,as I noticed also you said that Rose and 20 million would have been a good deal..
He's 18 for feck sake,first game in premier,give it a rest.
I don't think R. Sess was "lightweight" at all. He gave some, he got some. He didn't dominate, but wasn't dominated. Regardless, he's going to be starting week in and week out.
I think he had one bad game and that he should still be a starter. Although I think he shouldn't start against Spurs, as fans would expect him to be the best player on the pitch and after today that would put too much pressure on him. Also Spurs were apparently interested in him in the last two windows and think that that also puts some pressure on him.
Lol Statto calm yourself down matey, not worth having heart attack about as it's just my opionion, but you should really get yourself down the cottage at some point and see for yourself.
By lightweight I'm assuming that as a figure of speech not in the literal sense of word I.e weight needs KG.
I would argue and say that Zaha has far more "body strength and balance' in a challenge that Sess does. When you mentioned the Ak challenge that is slightly different as Zaha was slowing down and Ak was as full pelt and his built like a brick sh1thouse.
That will come for young sess as he matures physically and fills out he will develop that core stretch tk enenable him to be stronger on the ball or less 'lightweight'
I dont see Sess as Lightweight, but I'm amazed its just dawning on people hes not actually a wide man who takes people on.
His first game at this level,don't forget he's still a kid.
A very talented kid who will adjust with the football intelligence this kid has he will come on leaps and bounds.statto give him a chance!
