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Title: Team for Man City
Post by: WhiteJC on September 12, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
My team against Man City

Betts

Fosu-Mensah          Odoi          Mawson          Le Marchand

Anguissa          KMac          Seri

Sess          Mitro          Schurrle

I think Betts hasn't done anything that would cause him to be dropped, I know thats not a 'ringing endorsement' but I'm not sure there's a lot of difference between all 3 goalies?

There's been no word on Ream so I have to assume he's still not fit, he needs to get game time ASAP as we need a consistent back 4.

I've selected KMac as Tom will still be out? Seri one of the first names on the team sheet and Anguissa has shown so really good touches

I'd put Ryan on from the start, Vietto hasn't done much wrong (apart from giving away that pen) but I believe this game is one that Ryan can really shine. Mitro is the first name on the team sheet and Schurrle has shown  glimpses of how good he was/can be.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: twang on September 12, 2018, 11:55:02 AM
Bettinelli
Fosu-Mensah - Mawson - Le Marchand - Bryan
Schürrle - Anguissa - Seri - McDonald - Sessegnon
Mitrovic

4-5-1/4-2-3-1 with Seri as the most advanced central midfielder.

Subs: Fabri/Rico, Odoi, Christie, Chambers, Johansen, Vietto & Kamara
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: RaySmith on September 12, 2018, 12:03:30 PM
Might be good to start Sess  instead of Vietto,  who has done well, because he  can also defend.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Milo on September 12, 2018, 01:24:22 PM
GK Bettinelli

RB Fosu Mensah
RCB Odoi
LCB Mawson
LB Bryan

DM MacDonald
CM Seri
CM Johansen

LW Sessegnon
CF Mitrovic
RW Schurrle

Sessegnon to switch with Schurrle and provide cover for weaker flank depending on how City attack.

Notable inclusions:

Fosu-Mensah gets one more chance to keep his place after losing his man on a number of important occasions last weekend. Le Marchand however does lose his for giving the ball away for two goals in two subsequent weeks. Both Odoi and MLM seem to take up good positions and make intelligent interceptions, but are prone to errors that get punished at this level. The decision to play Odoi instead came down to the fact he hasn't made one yet this season.

In midfield, Johansen fresh from two goals for Norway midweek and an assist against Exeter previously comes in to provide some box to box counter attacking threat.

In attack, Sessegnon's defending and his reputation (ie bizarrely as a fast paced winger hugging the touch lines) will be useful to peg back City's full back on that side. Kamara to come on as we tire around 70 minutes.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 02:18:19 PM
I think we need to deny them space so would pick all the following to start

1. Marcus Bettinelli

3. Ryan Sessegnon

4. Denis Odoi

5. Calum Chambers

6. Kevin McDonald

7. Neeskens Kebano

8. Stefan Johansen

9. Aleksandar Mitrović

10. Tom Cairney

11. Floyd Ayité

13. Tim Ream

14. André Schürrle

17. Rui Fonte

19. Luciano Vietto

20. Maxime Le Marchand

21. Timothy Fosu-Mensah

22. Cyrus Christie

23. Joe Bryan

24. Jean Michaël Seri

25. Sergio Rico

26. Alfie Mawson

29. André-Frank Zambo Anguissa

31. Fabri

36. Luca de la Torre

43. Steven Sessegnon

44. Ibrahima Cisse

47. Aboubakar Kamara

50. Luca Ashby-Hammond
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Brightster#2 on September 12, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
I like odoi but I would pick chambers. He has a lot of experience against top teams

————————Betts———————-
Fosu——mawson——Chambers—-Bryan
———————-mcdonald—————-
—————-Anguissa—-seri————-
Schurrle———————————vietto
————————mitro———

Subs: Rico, Christie, MLM, johansen, ayite, sessegnon, kamara
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Count Flapula on September 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
                Betts

———— Brick wall 1 ————

TFM   Mawson   MLM   Bryan

———— Brick wall 2 ————

              Zambo
    Seri                 TC (if fit)

—— Machine gun turret ——

Shirley       Mitro          Sess
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on September 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
                Betts

———— Brick wall 1 ————

TFM   Mawson   MLM   Bryan

———— Brick wall 2 ————

              Zambo
    Seri                 TC (if fit)

—— Machine gun turret ——

Shirley       Mitro          Sess


How come you have dropped Minefield and SAS snipers from the team?
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: WOTM on September 12, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on September 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
                Betts

———— Brick wall 1 ————

TFM   Mawson   MLM   Bryan

———— Brick wall 2 ————

              Zambo
    Seri                 TC (if fit)

—— Machine gun turret ——

Shirley       Mitro          Sess


How come you have dropped Minefield and SAS snipers from the team?

... and don't forget that The Moat has performed well this season!
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: WOTM on September 12, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on September 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
                Betts

———— Brick wall 1 ————

TFM   Mawson   MLM   Bryan

———— Brick wall 2 ————

              Zambo
    Seri                 TC (if fit)

—— Machine gun turret ——

Shirley       Mitro          Sess


How come you have dropped Minefield and SAS snipers from the team?

... and don't forget that The Moat has performed well this season!

We will have to make sure the Drawbridge is up for it
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
If Slav doesn't start Mawson and Le Marchand at CB, I don't really care what else he does because we'll be all out of sorts in the back.

Personally, I'd like to start Christie and Bryan at fullback. I think we need balance and threat on the wings to make City wary of the counter, and if Tom's not available, our central midfield is too limited offensively to threaten. Despite going up 2-0 at Brighton, I though we were mostly lacking ideas offensively, in part because of player absences and neither fullback being an effective attacking threat.

We're not stout enough defensively to play them to a stalemate over 90 mins away. We need to fight fire with (lesser) fire at times, and maybe they leave their shooting accuracy in the dressing room.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Milo on September 12, 2018, 06:44:54 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
If Slav doesn't start Mawson and Le Marchand at CB, I don't really care what else he does because we'll be all out of sorts in the back.

Personally, I'd like to start Christie and Bryan at fullback. I think we need balance and threat on the wings to make City wary of the counter, and if Tom's not available, our central midfield is too limited offensively to threaten. Despite going up 2-0 at Brighton, I though we were mostly lacking ideas offensively, in part because of player absences and neither fullback being an effective attacking threat.

We're not stout enough defensively to play them to a stalemate over 90 mins away. We need to fight fire with (lesser) fire at times, and maybe they leave their shooting accuracy in the dressing room.

Not sure how many MLM gift goals we can take against City..
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: filham on September 12, 2018, 06:59:41 PM
Depends on Ream and Cairney being fit, if there is doubt leave them out and have them back in good shape for the Watford game.

                                        Betts

Fosul  Christie  Odoi  Chambers  Mawson Bryan Le Marcand

                                       McDonald

                                         Seri

                                       Mitrovic

                                                   











Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Vinnieffc on September 12, 2018, 07:12:31 PM
Quote from: Brightster#2 on September 12, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
I like odoi but I would pick chambers. He has a lot of experience against top teams

————————Betts———————-
Fosu——mawson——Chambers—-Bryan
———————-mcdonald—————-
—————-Anguissa—-seri————-
Schurrle———————————vietto
————————mitro———

Subs: Rico, Christie, MLM, johansen, ayite, sessegnon, kamara

I'm on this lineup with bells on..
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Whitesideup on September 12, 2018, 07:39:18 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
If Slav doesn't start Mawson and Le Marchand at CB, I don't really care what else he does because we'll be all out of sorts in the back.

Personally, I'd like to start Christie and Bryan at fullback. I think we need balance and threat on the wings to make City wary of the counter, and if Tom's not available, our central midfield is too limited offensively to threaten. Despite going up 2-0 at Brighton, I though we were mostly lacking ideas offensively, in part because of player absences and neither fullback being an effective attacking threat.

We're not stout enough defensively to play them to a stalemate over 90 mins away. We need to fight fire with (lesser) fire at times, and maybe they leave their shooting accuracy in the dressing room.
Odoi has been good so far.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Milo on September 12, 2018, 06:44:54 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
If Slav doesn't start Mawson and Le Marchand at CB, I don't really care what else he does because we'll be all out of sorts in the back.

Personally, I'd like to start Christie and Bryan at fullback. I think we need balance and threat on the wings to make City wary of the counter, and if Tom's not available, our central midfield is too limited offensively to threaten. Despite going up 2-0 at Brighton, I though we were mostly lacking ideas offensively, in part because of player absences and neither fullback being an effective attacking threat.

We're not stout enough defensively to play them to a stalemate over 90 mins away. We need to fight fire with (lesser) fire at times, and maybe they leave their shooting accuracy in the dressing room.

Not sure how many MLM gift goals we can take against City..

I'll gamble on MLM not passing the ball directly to Aguero more than Chambers or Odoi not getting roasted for numerous huge chances. But as long as MLM isn't at LB, I'll be happier than I was with the approach at Brighton.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: gang on September 12, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: WOTM on September 12, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on September 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
                Betts

———— Brick wall 1 ————

TFM   Mawson   MLM   Bryan

———— Brick wall 2 ————

              Zambo
    Seri                 TC (if fit)

—— Machine gun turret ——

Shirley       Mitro          Sess


How come you have dropped Minefield and SAS snipers from the team?

... and don't forget that The Moat has performed well this season!

We will have to make sure the Drawbridge is up for it

I would leave Betts out for Boiling Tar if they get past the brick wall.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Milo on September 12, 2018, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Milo on September 12, 2018, 06:44:54 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on September 12, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
If Slav doesn't start Mawson and Le Marchand at CB, I don't really care what else he does because we'll be all out of sorts in the back.

Personally, I'd like to start Christie and Bryan at fullback. I think we need balance and threat on the wings to make City wary of the counter, and if Tom's not available, our central midfield is too limited offensively to threaten. Despite going up 2-0 at Brighton, I though we were mostly lacking ideas offensively, in part because of player absences and neither fullback being an effective attacking threat.

We're not stout enough defensively to play them to a stalemate over 90 mins away. We need to fight fire with (lesser) fire at times, and maybe they leave their shooting accuracy in the dressing room.

Not sure how many MLM gift goals we can take against City..

I'll gamble on MLM not passing the ball directly to Aguero more than Chambers or Odoi not getting roasted for numerous huge chances. But as long as MLM isn't at LB, I'll be happier than I was with the approach at Brighton.

I haven't seen Odoi make any defensive errors so far this season? Agreed there were concerns he was out muscled in Championship by the bigger strikers but less likely against Agüero etc?
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: bornafulhamfan on September 13, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
Betts
Fosu-Mensah Mawson MLM Bryan
Seri Zambo Cairney
Schürrle Mitro Sess

If Cairney isn't fit, I would put Stefjo instead of him, as I think that Kmac is too slow for City midfield. I put Sess instead of Vietto as he is defensively better.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Grumpy Worthing White on September 13, 2018, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: WOTM on September 12, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on September 12, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on September 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
                Betts

———— Brick wall 1 ————

TFM   Mawson   MLM   Bryan

———— Brick wall 2 ————

              Zambo
    Seri                 TC (if fit)

—— Machine gun turret ——

Shirley       Mitro          Sess


How come you have dropped Minefield and SAS snipers from the team?

... and don't forget that The Moat has performed well this season!

We will have to make sure the Drawbridge is up for it
Don`t forget the Saracen and Churchill Tanks  092.gif .
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: ex-Pat on September 13, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
What a load of Bottle merchants .......
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: grandad on September 13, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
Cairney, Ream & Kebano are still not fit to feature.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: SP on September 13, 2018, 08:00:27 PM
Odds on offer of up to 25/1 according to Oddschecker.

COYWs
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on September 14, 2018, 09:30:09 AM
Fabri

Fosu Mensah Mawson Le Marchand Bryan

Seri McDonald Anguissa

Vietto Mitrovic Schurrle
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Chutney on September 14, 2018, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on September 14, 2018, 09:30:09 AM
Fabri

Fosu Mensah Mawson Le Marchand Bryan

Seri McDonald Anguissa

Vietto Mitrovic Schurrle

Interesting that you'd to drop our Number 1 off the back of a win and a draw (our only points of the season so far) + An England call up. I think its probably time you move on with this agenda against betts.

Other than that I completely agree with the outfield players you've picked, given our current injuries. Cairney will be a big miss, hope he's not out for too long, there's a lot of pressure on Seri to do the ball retention job on his own.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: RaySmith on September 14, 2018, 09:56:44 AM
Be odd to drop Betts after just reinstating him, when his performance was good-
what's your reasoning behind this, out of interest?

I might have Sess instead of Vietto, who has been good, for his defensive qualities.

Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: MJG on September 14, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
I ran a number of polls on twitter over last few days (some with over a thousand taking part) and the team voted for was..

Betts
TFM
Bryan
Mawson
Marchand
Kmac
Seri
Frank
Schurrle
Vietto
Mitrovic
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Milo on September 14, 2018, 10:17:44 AM
Interesting that popular opinion would seem to be Vietto over Sessegnon. I thought Vietto was largely ineffective against Burnley - poor first touch at times and gave ball away up until approx 70 minutes when Burnley began to tire when he was offered more space and was more influential. Given that most teams won't have played a mid week European game and won't be so quick to tire, I would place Vietto third on the list of wingers behind Kamara who scored a brace against Exeter and looked sharp in Spain and of course Sess.. who I would have thought everyone would rather have for his defensive cover for City.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 14, 2018, 10:48:56 AM
Quote from: MJG on September 14, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
I ran a number of polls on twitter over last few days (some with over a thousand taking part) and the team voted for was..

Betts
TFM
Bryan
Mawson
Marchand
Kmac
Seri
Frank
Schurrle
Vietto
Mitrovic

I cannot really disagree with that lineup, maybe Sess for Vietto, either one or the other.
But I would be confident with that starting Eleven.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: MJG on September 14, 2018, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: Milo on September 14, 2018, 10:17:44 AM
Interesting that popular opinion would seem to be Vietto over Sessegnon. I thought Vietto was largely ineffective against Burnley - poor first touch at times and gave ball away up until approx 70 minutes when Burnley began to tire when he was offered more space and was more influential. Given that most teams won't have played a mid week European game and won't be so quick to tire, I would place Vietto third on the list of wingers behind Kamara who scored a brace against Exeter and looked sharp in Spain and of course Sess.. who I would have thought everyone would rather have for his defensive cover for City.
1030 votes
35%🔥 + Schürrle + Sess
61%🔥 + Schürrle + Vietto
04%🔥 + Schürrle + AK
00%🔥 + Other combination
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Facts Not Fiction on September 14, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: Chutney on September 14, 2018, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on September 14, 2018, 09:30:09 AM
Fabri

Fosu Mensah Mawson Le Marchand Bryan

Seri McDonald Anguissa

Vietto Mitrovic Schurrle

Interesting that you'd to drop our Number 1 off the back of a win and a draw (our only points of the season so far) + An England call up. I think its probably time you move on with this agenda against betts.

Other than that I completely agree with the outfield players you've picked, given our current injuries. Cairney will be a big miss, hope he's not out for too long, there's a lot of pressure on Seri to do the ball retention job on his own.

Because I rate Fabri higher than Betts, means I have an agenda against him.

That itself is an agenda against Fabri.
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: bornafulhamfan on September 14, 2018, 03:49:17 PM
Bettinelli
Fosu-Mensah Mawson Le Marchand Bryan
Seri Anguissa Johansen
Schürrle Mitrović Sessegnon
Title: Re: Team for Man City
Post by: Twig on September 14, 2018, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on September 14, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: Chutney on September 14, 2018, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on September 14, 2018, 09:30:09 AM
Fabri

Fosu Mensah Mawson Le Marchand Bryan

Seri McDonald Anguissa

Vietto Mitrovic Schurrle

Interesting that you'd to drop our Number 1 off the back of a win and a draw (our only points of the season so far) + An England call up. I think its probably time you move on with this agenda against betts.

Other than that I completely agree with the outfield players you've picked, given our current injuries. Cairney will be a big miss, hope he's not out for too long, there's a lot of pressure on Seri to do the ball retention job on his own.

Because I rate Fabri higher than Betts, means I have an agenda against him.

That itself is an agenda against Fabri.

We have debated this at length previously. I think you are blinkered, you think I am wrong. Inevitably I agree with Chutney. Why drop a winner for a loser? Although in reality I fear that Gordon Banks in his prime would not swing this one in our favour.