Must both start. Anguissa and Seri have great chemistry and work well going forward with one another, and Odoi didn't put a foot wrong in defense. Mawson and Chambers need to have a sit down about how in disarray we were in the 1st half...and Chambers almost cost us the game with that silly trap and holding on to the ball in the 2nd.
I think we need to start playing to the strengths of players rather than shoehorning them into our 4-3-3. I hate to make so many changes to the defence but next week I'd have Odoi and MLM as CB's as both seem most comfortable in our system, move Sess forward and play Bryan at LB. Allow Zambo to protect the back four, play with Schurrle and Sess as wingers with Vietto playing off Mitro and we'll be more compact without losing the attacking potency
Anguissa showed flashes of what he could be at a higher level, but he has to speed his game up. Took too much time on several occasions and got eaten up. PL is a much quicker game than maybe what he's used to.
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 22, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
I think we need to start playing to the strengths of players rather than shoehorning them into our 4-3-3. I hate to make so many changes to the defence but next week I'd have Odoi and MLM as CB's as both seem most comfortable in our system, move Sess forward and play Bryan at LB. Allow Zambo to protect the back four, play with Schurrle and Sess as wingers with Vietto playing off Mitro and we'll be more compact without losing the attacking potency
Agree with every word of that. Anguissa made a big difference to Seri and odoi is our most intelligent defender , he makes those around him more effective
Anguissa and odio must start as first half Mawson and Chambers looked a couple of clowns,Mawson from the off couldn't contain deeney, alongside him Chambers a liability,with whom I would return to arsenal. Sess I thought looked like he's getting to grips with the premier league, anguissa,seri and TC first picks midfield.Did enjoy the second half by Fulham.
We could not have played any worse in the second half, after that abysmal first half. We got out of jail today, let's face it.
Because of that I am grateful for a point. We nearly won it in the end. But somehow we kept a clean sheet in the second half, and that in itself is a result, because we won the second half.
Nevertheless, we looked shocking in the first half. We will not get away with it like that again.
Before we do anything else, we have to sought out that defence including the defensive midfield players.
Quote from: hovewhite on September 22, 2018, 03:25:27 PM
Anguissa and odio must start as first half Mawson and Chambers looked a couple of clowns,Mawson from the off couldn't contain deeney, alongside him Chambers a liability,with whom I would return to arsenal. Sess I thought looked like he's getting to grips with the premier league, anguissa,seri and TC first picks midfield.Did enjoy the second half by Fulham.
Yep, I`d go along with that.....Sussex minds think alike 049:gif 049:gif
Quote from: WindyCity on September 22, 2018, 03:17:11 PM
Anguissa showed flashes of what he could be at a higher level, but he has to speed his game up. Took too much time on several occasions and got eaten up. PL is a much quicker game than maybe what he's used to.
Evra was on A League of Their Own this week and he spoke of his first game.
He had a stinker in the first 45, SAF pulled him off at half time and told him to watch and learn how the Premierleague is played.
It is such a physical and quick league, if you have not played in it before it will be a complete shock
Quote from: WindyCity on September 22, 2018, 03:17:11 PM
Anguissa showed flashes of what he could be at a higher level, but he has to speed his game up. Took too much time on several occasions and got eaten up. PL is a much quicker game than maybe what he's used to.
I totally agree with this.
Both have to start next game.
What frustrates me with jokanovic is how he got the 1st half so wrong, but the 2nd spot on.
, "what a difference odoi makes"
Odoi was excellent today
Deeney apparently has three broken toes and thinks he broke another bone today in his foot. No wonder Odoi played so well when he came on. Problem is Mawson played as if he had a few broken bones in the first half and Chambers as if he was looking for some back bone all game.
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on September 22, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Both have to start next game.
What frustrates me with jokanovic is how he Quote from: bobby01 on September 22, 2018, 04:13:59 PM
, "what a difference odoi makes"
Difficult to believe that Odoi is looking so much better than Chambbers and Mawson, it begs the question did we spend big money on the right centre backs in the summer or have we repeated the Iclandic disaster.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 22, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
Deeney apparently has three broken toes and thinks he broke another bone today in his foot. No wonder Odoi played so well when he came on. Problem is Mawson played as if he had a few broken bones in the first half and Chambers as if he was looking for some back bone all game.
Don't know why you feel the need to downplay Odoi's performance, he was excellent. Do you seriously believe TD started with 3 broken toes? No way.
Quote from: e4b on September 22, 2018, 04:23:05 PM
Odoi was excellent today
bloody quality for a full back!
I do agree that Zambo needs to speed up a bit but he did make a big difference, as did Odoi. But nobody has mentioned Ayite n this thread, he also made a positive difference, he drove us forward more effectively.
Quote from: Twig on September 22, 2018, 04:38:16 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 22, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
Deeney apparently has three broken toes and thinks he broke another bone today in his foot. No wonder Odoi played so well when he came on. Problem is Mawson played as if he had a few broken bones in the first half and Chambers as if he was looking for some back bone all game.
Don't know why you feel the need to downplay Odoi's performance, he was excellent. Do you seriously believe TD started with 3 broken toes? No way.
I wasn't down playing it. I was making a joke. You know about those do you? Yes Deeney has said he is playing with broken toes and is going to hospital for a further scan after the tackle by Fulhams F Mensah which he apologised for. But I am sorry for the light hearted banter. It has no place here now we are in the Prem.
Odoi and Ayite know the there position in slavs team plan and what part of the pitch they need to be, likewise when fit reammmmm which I believe will make a huge difference to Fulham on the pitch.
Let's not knock it today was a very enjoyable game of football which was played in the right spirit. Even at the end a Watford player was helping a Fulham player with cramp. Watford won the first half we won the second half. Well done to all involved
Quote from: Andy S on September 22, 2018, 04:58:15 PM
Let's not knock it today was a very enjoyable game of football which was played in the right spirit. Even at the end a Watford player was helping a Fulham player with cramp. Watford won the first half we won the second half. Well done to all involved
Yes, I enjoyed it. We were second best in the first half but played some lovely slick football in the second.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 22, 2018, 04:43:52 PM
Quote from: Twig on September 22, 2018, 04:38:16 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 22, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
Deeney apparently has three broken toes and thinks he broke another bone today in his foot. No wonder Odoi played so well when he came on. Problem is Mawson played as if he had a few broken bones in the first half and Chambers as if he was looking for some back bone all game.
Don't know why you feel the need to downplay Odoi's performance, he was excellent. Do you seriously believe TD started with 3 broken toes? No way.
I wasn't down playing it. I was making a joke. You know about those do you? Yes Deeney has said he is playing with broken toes and is going to hospital for a further scan after the tackle by Fulhams F Mensah which he apologised for. But I am sorry for the light hearted banter. It has no place here now we are in the Prem.
If you were joking I apologise, didn't pick up on that.
Quote from: bobby01 on September 22, 2018, 04:13:59 PM
, "what a difference odoi makes"
Well I got the pun if no-one else did! Very good. 064.gif (Doubt it'll catch on as a song from the Hammy End unfortunately)
To me Anguissa looks class, but I fear he is not used to the pace of the PL yet, or is simply not match-fit.
He will be great for us when he can replicate the 20mins of today for 90minutes.
COYW!
Quote from: Twig on September 22, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
I do agree that Zambo needs to speed up a bit but he did make a big difference, as did Odoi. But nobody has mentioned Ayite n this thread, he also made a positive difference, he drove us forward more effectively.
Very good point, Ayite looked up for it that is for sure.
Zambo is the weakest link, sorry. He's a great header of the ball. However, he doesn't keep thing simple FAST enough. He doddles on the ball too long. In every single appearance for us he has lost the ball, and it has led to a scoring chance for the opposition.
I do like the player, but he needs to wake up a bit.
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 22, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
I think we need to start playing to the strengths of players rather than shoehorning them into our 4-3-3. I hate to make so many changes to the defence but next week I'd have Odoi and MLM as CB's as both seem most comfortable in our system, move Sess forward and play Bryan at LB. Allow Zambo to protect the back four, play with Schurrle and Sess as wingers with Vietto playing off Mitro and we'll be more compact without losing the attacking potency
Couldn't say anymore than that!! Spot on!,
Problem could be that Mawson knows how cack Chambers is and he ends up having one eye on where Chambers is and doesnt do his job properly
Can you imagine how Hangerland would have been paired with Zat Knight
Anguissa is far better than Mcdonald and Johansen IMO.
Quote from: bobby01 on September 22, 2018, 04:13:59 PM
, "what a difference odoi makes"
24 little hours.......
