Because I haven't seen anything from any of them so far that makes their value anyway near what we paid imo.
Mitro excluded of course.
Seri looked absolutely brilliant for a few games
Whats happened to him now ?
Move the ball too slowly in final 3rd - no support for Mitro
Seri, MLM and Mitro-Bargains
Bryan and Fabri-were cheap
Anguissa and Mawson-maybe, but they should improve
Vietto, Schuerrle, Fosu-Mensah, Chambers and Rico-loans
To conclude, imo no.
Agree with above. Seris ball to Sess today was delightful. He can produce a moment of magic that can change a game.
It's September.
The awful tactics and constant chopping and changing of the team isn't giving any of them the chance to look good
I swear we've had this thread for the past three seasons now. We've always been slow starters under Joka and it seems that by being a good team overall in the past two seasons in a lower division, people suddenly expected us to come up to the prem and win lots of games. The fact we chop and change the team every week doesn't help new players learn the system, I think that people just love to scapegoat players, every week it's someone else's fault that we've lost or played poorly. For Christ sake we've never won away at Everton and some of you are going on like we've not got a single point all season
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 29, 2018, 05:30:22 PM
I swear we've had this thread for the past three seasons now. We've always been slow starters under Joka and it seems that by being a good team overall in the past two seasons in a lower division, people suddenly expected us to come up to the prem and win lots of games. The fact we chop and change the team every week doesn't help new players learn the system, I think that people just love to scapegoat players, every week it's someone else's fault that we've lost or played poorly. For Christ sake we've never won away at Everton and some of you are going on like we've not got a single point all season
What's not winning at Everton got to do with it.
So every time we go there we should just say aagh well we can't win here...Nonsense.
We looked like a league below second half .
Quote from: Ordar on September 29, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
The awful tactics and constant chopping and changing of the team isn't giving any of them the chance to look good
You've complained about our tactics a number of times already this season without once saying what is wrong or suggesting what our tactics should be. It takes no understanding of football whatsoever to simply say, 'awful tactics'.
We rarely seem to have two good halves.
I am not expecting Fulham to win every half, but sometimes we look like strangers. Chopping and changing can never help.
Kept a clean sheet in the first half. Which was encouraging, and I think it was only the second time this has happened so far this season.
Not one of our happy hunting grounds.
Nonetheless, for some reason I expected a result.
Now conceded an average of over two goals a game. Which means we need to score at least three to try and win a game.
We desperately need to organise a team that can be hard to beat, just to grind out points. Because if we continue to ship Goals at this rate, we will have a steep hill to climb.
Yes it's only September, October is round the corner, and matches will not get any easier.
I know it's still early days, but losing can become a habit.
Yes attack can be the best form of defence, but it's not working for Fulham at the moment, and on top of that we are picking up injuries to compound the situation
So we have to hang in there and concentrate on how we are going to keep Arsenal out next Sunday.
Because so far, one win in 7 League matches signifies that we could be flirting with relegation along with half a dozen other clubs, so we need to batten down the hatches somehow, before we get sucked into the bottom three.
Always going to be a relegation battle this season. Need to continue getting behind the team and hopefully its not a great escape season but one of survival. Players and the Manager need time. We have to beat the other relegation teams around us. Roll on October!
There are concerns but don't panic.
Crystal Palace lost their first 7 league games last season. They were fine.
Gotta figure out how to stop other teams from scoring though. THAT is worrisome.
No, Fulham didn't overspend.
Problem is, they are going to need to spend just as much on defenders in the January window. Chambers and MLM are not good defenders...and I'm sorry, but Joe Bryan is simply too small for the premiere league. If he had good pace...maybe... but if being left footed and able to deliver a good cross are his only tangibles then more $$$ needs to be spent solidifying that spot.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 29, 2018, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on September 29, 2018, 05:30:22 PM
I swear we've had this thread for the past three seasons now. We've always been slow starters under Joka and it seems that by being a good team overall in the past two seasons in a lower division, people suddenly expected us to come up to the prem and win lots of games. The fact we chop and change the team every week doesn't help new players learn the system, I think that people just love to scapegoat players, every week it's someone else's fault that we've lost or played poorly. For Christ sake we've never won away at Everton and some of you are going on like we've not got a single point all season
What's not winning at Everton got to do with it.
So every time we go there we should just say aagh well we can't win here...Nonsense.
We looked like a league below second half .
My point is, did you make comments like this when Roy took us up there and we still lost? Did you say the players were a waste of money then?
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on September 29, 2018, 06:14:48 PM
Always going to be a relegation battle this season. Need to continue getting behind the team and hopefully its not a great escape season but one of survival. Players and the Manager need time. We have to beat the other relegation teams around us. Roll on October!
And out of the wilderness came a voice of reason
Give it time fffs- hopefully there are three worse teams than us in the league than FFC and I think there are.
We need to figure out two CBs who can regularly play at this level. Otherwise, we're fine. Cardiff and Huddersfield are inarguably worse than we are, and we'll end up better than several others (but only need to pip one more).
Looking at what Everton spent on the players in its team today (according to transfermarkt), it could be argued that - much as it seems - for the money we spent, we can't expect anything more than 'average players'.
Sigurdsson £44M
Richarlison £35M
Pickford £25M
Keane £25M
Tosun £20M
Walcott £20M
Schneiderlin £20M
Digne £18M
Gueye £8M
On the EPL defensive showings so far we are shockingly poor at the back.
And with both new first choice full backs now out for a while, we are not going to get any better.
Not sure what the answer is short term but we need to dig in and stop leaking easy goals or before we get a chance to buy our way to safety in January, it'll be all over.
I think currently at the moment we will have to hope there are three clubs weaker than us.
I can think of two straight away, after that it gets a little more difficult.
But we shouldn't be relying on what other clubs cannot do.
We have to improve ourselves, especially the defensive side of our game.
Nevertheless, it's only 7 matches gone, but we really need to get a lot more points under our belt in the next 7 matches.
We will definitely be safe. I'm certain we are better than Cardiff, Huddersfield, Newcastle and Burnley, pretty sure we are better than Bournemouth, Southampton and Brighton, and I think we can be better than Wolves, Watford and Crystal Palace. So for me,16. is guaranteed, 13.-15. is highly likely and even 10.-12. isn't that unrealistic.
Teams that survive relagation fights are the one's that can score goals and we will always have that possibility with Mitro. And another thing, we are underdogs in this league and always have been!
We have not spent enough to get instant result.
We have not bought any bad players. The main problem is that SJ has not yet come up with a settled starting team. To some extent we started the season with 2 CB´s recovering from injury & arguably our best one suspended. Add to these are the injuries to Kebano, Ayite, Mawson & Cairney
We now have both our starting full backs out for some time with Ream & Cairney not yet 100% match fit.
It is no wonder that SJ can´t pick a consistent starting team.
We just have to hang in somehow & give SJ & the players our full support.
It is the size of the defeat that always hurts the most, that, and the fact we did not take some really good chances to score. All the players need to start paying more attention to what the coaching staff are insisting upon - bravery, precision, energy, effort and passion. If all eleven players offer these qualities over the whole ninety minutes of a game then the results will speak for themselves.
These threads contain all the evidence of how difficult it is to turn out decent displays when too many players are 'new additions' but SJ has no alternative than to select those who offer him hope from training results while others are simply proving to be inferior on their match day opportunities. We have suffered bad or inadequate summers and autumns for every season under the Khans but at least SJ has shown he can deliver .... eventually.
People on here just need to believe.
Quote from: toshes mate on September 30, 2018, 08:53:10 AM
It is the size of the defeat that always hurts the most, that, and the fact we did not take some really good chances to score. All the players need to start paying more attention to what the coaching staff are insisting upon - bravery, precision, energy, effort and passion. If all eleven players offer these qualities over the whole ninety minutes of a game then the results will speak for themselves.
These threads contain all the evidence of how difficult it is to turn out decent displays when too many players are 'new additions' but SJ has no alternative than to select those who offer him hope from training results while others are simply proving to be inferior on their match day opportunities. We have suffered bad or inadequate summers and autumns for every season under the Khans but at least SJ has shown he can deliver .... eventually.
People on here just need to believe.
Very well said - I believe and in Joka I trust!!
i think the problem we had is that we had to buy almost a whole new team because we had so many loans. £100mio spread over that many players is always a risk. Wolves have only added a couple of faces and it shows , they can carry on from where they left off. With hindsight , finding a top class centre half and full back maybe should have been the priority .
In answer to the OP , yes possibly so.
After thinking about it overnight.
Yes, they have. And it's to be expected of a promoted side looking for a team of players that will work well together within Slavs system.
I'm watching this Burnley v Cardiff game right now. 064.gif
One of the things that I've loved about the Whites is the style of play implemented by Slav. THAT's the hard part.
Now it's about spending $$$ and finding the right players that fit the system that will keep the team out of the bottom 3 come next May. It's going to take time...and some broken eggs (as they say)
Don't worry. It's a process.
Remember. The Whites still have one of the lowest team wages in the league. That won't always be the case.
Mawson, Bryon, MLM and Christie wouldn't start for any of the top 10 teams in the league...but they don't have to. They need work well within the system and play smart defensively.
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