Although not fully fit FosuMensah may be available having trained during the week. But neither Cairney or Bryan are available.
Seriously what is up with cairney?
He's been injured for probably over 50% of his time with us which is pathetic
Quote from: Rambler on October 18, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
Seriously what is up with cairney?
He's been injured for probably over 50% of his time with us which is pathetic
Should have sold him when West Ham came in for him (hindsight is a wonderful thing) still he will be fresh for the relegation battle!!
Quote from: KJS on October 18, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: Rambler on October 18, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
Seriously what is up with cairney?
He's been injured for probably over 50% of his time with us which is pathetic
Should have sold him when West Ham came in for him (hindsight is a wonderful thing) still he will be fresh for the relegation battle!!
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Wow! Just wow!
Quote from: KJS on October 18, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: Rambler on October 18, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
Seriously what is up with cairney?
He's been injured for probably over 50% of his time with us which is pathetic
Should have sold him when West Ham came in for him (hindsight is a wonderful thing) still he will be fresh for the relegation battle!!
No he wont, he's physically fit now, but worringly for us and Tom he is still feeling pain,
His value has gone from £20 million to zero , I just cant see him suddenly playing 5 or 6 games in a row, can you ?
He was in a similar situation last season with a dodgy knee now I understand the problem is an ankle. Lets hope he can recover ,as he did for the second half of last season.
He is badly missed, the midfielders purchased in the summer, at enormous cost, are not up to his standard.
Let's hope he recovers and doesn't turn into Jamie Redknapp, I. E. A crock.
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 18, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
Although not fully fit FosuMensah may be available having trained during the week. But neither Cairney or Bryan are available.
As poor as Christie was against The Arse, if FM isn't fit, he shouldn't start, he'll be no use. At least Christie is tall and may win some headers.
It's frustrating I know, but it is what it is, and I am sure the manager will think long and hard regarding his lineup, and ensure he has a plan b.
Because losing against Cardiff, partly because of their position, and a lot to do with the fact that it will be their first win, and Fulham conveniently will be on the end of it. This will rank up the pressure all round, and questions will most definitely be raised whether the team are up for it, let alone the manager.
However, i reckon we will achieve our first away win on Saturday, leaving Cardiff in a perilous position and still seeking their first victory.
He's probably got reflex sympathetic dystrophy.
Strange goings on with Cairney,came back as sub game before last,then wasn't in the squad when the manager thought he'd be available and working in training...Now 2 weeks down the line?
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on October 18, 2018, 04:34:20 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 18, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
Although not fully fit FosuMensah may be available having trained during the week. But neither Cairney or Bryan are available.
As poor as Christie was against The Arse, if FM isn't fit, he shouldn't start, he'll be no use. At least Christie is tall and may win some headers.
So right, we must not risk using players who are not fully fit, opponents will soon cotton on to it and then target that player.
Given Cardiff's rugged, aerial style, I would like to see Kmac back for this one.
Woolly: I worry about a Plan B when I have seen no evidence of one with an 'A' on the end. I also worry about Cairney. Sick note potential here.
As others have said, we had this last year.
Quote from: MikeW on October 18, 2018, 06:17:56 PM
Woolly: I worry about a Plan B when I have seen no evidence of one with an 'A' on the end. I also worry about Cairney. Sick note potential here.
As others have said, we had this last year.
Yes, I agree there is a pattern, as for no plan A or B, there are another 24 letters in the alphabet. There has to be one solitary plan amongst them.
Need to play with less of a high line and lb and rb playing a little more defensivley so we arnt cuaght in the last third!
Quote from: KJS on October 18, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: Rambler on October 18, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
Seriously what is up with cairney?
He's been injured for probably over 50% of his time with us which is pathetic
Should have sold him when West Ham came in for him (hindsight is a wonderful thing) still he will be fresh for the relegation battle!!
Hate to say it but it is very hard to argue with that at the moment
Although Cardiff, aka HMP Slade FC, would be the worst team to bring him back against anyway. Maybe he will surprise us and come back fully fit for Bournemouth abd play the rest of the season, like he did last year. We certainly are missing him IMO.
Did anyone see Cyrus MOM performance for Ireland? As a CM!!!
Accepting many of the points regarding TC but I wonder if Slav has ruled him out for another week simply because of the physicality of Colin's boys. Whilst I expect us to pass Cardiff off the pitch on Saturday we are also going to need to win the physical battle if we are to come away with the points.
What better way to kick start our season than a win against Cardiff followed by another victory the following week at home to Bournemouth with the captain putting in a vintage TC performance? COYW!!
Quote from: mlangstrom on October 18, 2018, 07:47:39 PM
Did anyone see Cyrus MOM performance for Ireland? As a CM!!!
Unsure you'll get a lot of votes for Christie playing CM as the creative spark to get our season going!
HMP Slade FC .... nice one Statto!!
Quote from: One James stannard on October 18, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: KJS on October 18, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: Rambler on October 18, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
Seriously what is up with cairney?
He's been injured for probably over 50% of his time with us which is pathetic
Should have sold him when West Ham came in for him (hindsight is a wonderful thing) still he will be fresh for the relegation battle!!
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Wow! Just wow!
Such ignorant comments. We would not be in the Prem had we sold Cairney to West Ham.
So disappointed TC not playing, really fancied our chances with Tom back at the helm.
What is going on? No details emerging of the extent of the injury, is it suspicious?
Quote from: Fernhurst on October 18, 2018, 11:03:41 PM
So disappointed TC not playing, really fancied our chances with Tom back at the helm.
What is going on? No details emerging of the extent of the injury, is it suspicious?
It is disappointing and if he isn't playing we do deserve a bit more of an explanation. I enjoy watching Tom play and seeing as I pay to go an d watch Fulham, I think we deserve to at least know what's up or when he can be expected back.
No mention of Mawson's non-availability so assume he is fit again. I, like a lot of others I think, assumed he and Ream would be our regular pairing at the heart of our defense but they haven't actually started any games together - hopefully they can develop a solid base. Odoi and Chambers have both regularly played at FB in the past. Bryan should be available soon and TF-M, MleM, Christie and Sess should be adequate cover across the back line generally.
Let's hope to see major improvement in our goals conceded very soon.
Quote from: mlangstrom on October 18, 2018, 07:47:39 PM
Did anyone see Cyrus MOM performance for Ireland? As a CM!!!
Yes. And as an Irish man wish I hadn't. ONeill another manager lost the plot.
Quote from: Beamer on October 19, 2018, 08:09:07 AM
No mention of Mawson's non-availability so assume he is fit again. I, like a lot of others I think, assumed he and Ream would be our regular pairing at the heart of our defense but they haven't actually started any games together - hopefully they can develop a solid base. Odoi and Chambers have both regularly played at FB in the past. Bryan should be available soon and TF-M, MleM, Christie and Sess should be adequate cover across the back line generally.
Let's hope to see major improvement in our goals conceded very soon.
We´re still in the dark as to whether a 3 or a 4 at the back is going to suit us best.
Gutted that Cairney is not playing, but also sad to see a few digs at the player that secured our promotion.
Whether it's mental or physical he's clearly not in a good place right now. Wishing him all the best for a speedy recovery.
Quote from: JoelH5 on October 18, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on October 18, 2018, 11:03:41 PM
So disappointed TC not playing, really fancied our chances with Tom back at the helm.
What is going on? No details emerging of the extent of the injury, is it suspicious?
It is disappointing and if he isn't playing we do deserve a bit more of an explanation. I enjoy watching Tom play and seeing as I pay to go an d watch Fulham, I think we deserve to at least know what's up or when he can be expected back.
I think you've completely missed the point, the club can't tell us anything more as with regards to the injury to Cairney as nobody at the club knows what's wrong with him, along with all the medical professionals that he has been sent to see,
As Slavisa himself said, "Clinically, he is fit, but he says that he is in pain"
Slavisa said yesterday with regards to Fosuh Mensah " you don't have to be 100% fit to play, but you do need to be mentally strong " was this a sly dig sent in the direction of our Captain ?
Quote from: Jimpav on October 19, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
Gutted that Cairney is not playing, but also sad to see a few digs at the player that secured our promotion.
Whether it's mental or physical he's clearly not in a good place right now. Wishing him all the best for a speedy recovery.
Agree 100%. Hoping he returns soon and proves so many wrong as he did last season.
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned it but Cairney and his mrs announced this morning they're expecting a baby
Also not sure whether that has any correlation to the mental issue theories on this thread... could perhaps support or undermine them depending which way you look at it!!
How many games has TC played for us over the past two seasons?
So two weeks on from the Arsenal thrashing the players available for selection is about the same, unless we are going to be foolish enough to risk a right back who is not fully fit.
Quote from: Riversider on October 19, 2018, 02:40:17 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on October 18, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on October 18, 2018, 11:03:41 PM
So disappointed TC not playing, really fancied our chances with Tom back at the helm.
What is going on? No details emerging of the extent of the injury, is it suspicious?
It is disappointing and if he isn't playing we do deserve a bit more of an explanation. I enjoy watching Tom play and seeing as I pay to go an d watch Fulham, I think we deserve to at least know what's up or when he can be expected back.
I think you've completely missed the point, the club can't tell us anything more as with regards to the injury to Cairney as nobody at the club knows what's wrong with him, along with all the medical professionals that he has been sent to see,
As Slavisa himself said, "Clinically, he is fit, but he says that he is in pain"
Slavisa said yesterday with regards to Fosuh Mensah " you don't have to be 100% fit to play, but you do need to be mentally strong " was this a sly dig sent in the direction of our Captain ?
So what point have I missed in being aggrieved we haven't been given hardly any information? Surely that's my opinion but as it differs to yours I've missed the point.
Quote from: Rambler on October 18, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
He's probably got reflex sympathetic dystrophy.
i had that - one session on the loo it was gone,
Just reading an article in a running magazine, talking about psychological aspects of pain - how you can feel pain when tests show the problem has healed up.
This can be to do with fear - the brain expects pain when you put weight on a knee or an ankle, and sends messages of pain for protection, even if there's no longer a problem.
Though I've no idea if Cairney has this problem, but the article also says that pain in one place can be to do with other physical problems that aren't able to be diagnosed, and also can be caused by mental stress or problems.
But I'm not saying that Cairney has such problems.
he's supposed to be on the verge of a return to action, anyway, and all Fulham fans wiil be very pleased to see him again. He's been sorely missed.
