"I'm ready to return" – Fulham summer signing wants to leave, made mistake on move
According to a claim in the Turkish media, Fulham goalkeeper Fabri wants to return to Besiktas, just a few months after arriving at Craven Cottage.
The Spaniard signed for Fulham in the last transfer window but has played just two games for the club.
Fotomac have reported on Fabri's situation at Fulham and they claim he's told friends he wants a move back to Istanbul: "I want to return. I made a mistake leaving Besiktas."
Despite Fulham signing Fabri and his compatriot Sergio Rico in the summer, their No.1 for the majority of the season has been Marcus Bettinelli. Fabri did start the season as first choice but was replaced after the defeat to Tottenham Hotspur.
The 30 year old was signed from Besiktas on the recommendation of goalkeeping coach Jose Sambade after their time together in Turkey, and despite Fulham paying €6m he's been left out of the match day squad in recent weeks.
It's unlikely his situation will improve and there's a chance he could force a move in the new year.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/im-ready-return-fulham-summer-signing-wants-leave-made-mistake-move/
Hardly a surprise, who next??
Don't get why he was brought in. The chap hasn't had a look in so far.
Well he was certainly a mistake. He never looked comfortable but then who would behind our defence? At least he was given a chance. Well a few games anyway.
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 21, 2018, 12:15:19 PM
Well he was certainly a mistake. He never looked comfortable but then who would behind our defence? At least he was given a chance. Well a few games anyway.
The mistake has been letting Bettinelli play over him during Rico's embedding in time.
This is no surprise, just a problem for Jocanovic but I imagine there will be more in the pipe line.
This is what happens when the statts merchants have their way. The guy should not have been signed in the first place. Let the manager choose his players not administrators who don't know the difference between a football and a snowball. Don't they ever learn.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 21, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
This is what happens when the statts merchants have their way. The guy should not have been signed in the first place. Let the manager choose his players not administrators who don't know the difference between a football and a snowball. Don't they ever learn.
We could have gotten a solid PL keeper like Ben Foster for £4m. He would have served us very well in that position for this season and next. The stats crew probably looked at his age and dismissed him.
Bye.
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If this is true I think you'll find most of us are missing you already. If it's not and you're good enough, fight for your place and you'll find the supporters will be behind you all the way.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 21, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
This is what happens when the statts merchants have their way. The guy should not have been signed in the first place. Let the manager choose his players not administrators who don't know the difference between a football and a snowball. Don't they ever learn.
Incorrect. He would've been our 1st choice, but when a keeper like Rico becomes available, you can't turn that down.
Quote from: Wingnut on October 21, 2018, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 21, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
This is what happens when the statts merchants have their way. The guy should not have been signed in the first place. Let the manager choose his players not administrators who don't know the difference between a football and a snowball. Don't they ever learn.
We could have gotten a solid PL keeper like Ben Foster for £4m. He would have served us very well in that position for this season and next. The stats crew probably looked at his age and dismissed him.
Not good with the ball af his feet and in a recent interview said he wouldn't be happy playing in that kind of system.
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Quote from: Wingnut on October 21, 2018, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 21, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
This is what happens when the statts merchants have their way. The guy should not have been signed in the first place. Let the manager choose his players not administrators who don't know the difference between a football and a snowball. Don't they ever learn.
We could have gotten a solid PL keeper like Ben Foster for £4m. He would have served us very well in that position for this season and next. The stats crew probably looked at his age and dismissed him.
Exactly
Doesn't want to play for his place, that is clear, which is why we should not have signed him in the first place.
Quote from: Milo on October 21, 2018, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Betts was rubbish against Arsenal too. Bear in mind Fabri got one game and the knives were out for him, including by yourself, you can see the double standards in play.
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 21, 2018, 09:13:38 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 21, 2018, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Betts was rubbish against Arsenal too. Bear in mind Fabri got one game and the knives were out for him, including by yourself, you can see the double standards in play.
I saw Fabri live on multiple occasions early in the season and could see a fundamental flaw in his decision making coming off his line.
I don't see a fundamental issue with Bettinelli - just a poor performance against Cardiff when frankly his defence were a shambles. For me, he wasn't particularly poor against Arsenal and again it was the defence letting him down in the second half.
So while I understand your point that Fabri seems to have been judged off a few games while Betts is allowed to have poor games without any criticism... it comes down to my interpretation of where each went wrong. Fabri's issues (for me at least) were repetitive and will take time to coach out of him. Time we don't have while languishing at the bottom of the table.
It sounds like he isn't prepared to work on these behind the scenes to fight for his place later in the season.
I was surprised at the beginning of the season why we signed 2 keepers yet still had Betts on the books..!
Maybe there was something going on in the background somewhere.
If The keeper is saying these things then might be wise to cancel the loan deal if its possible (not sure on the rules with this).
For me at the moment though it can't be good for Betts confidence conceding as many as we are
or with a defence that is non existent. Yep I know Betts has mad bad errors too.
Maybe it is time to hand someone else the gloves.
Quote from: Milo on October 21, 2018, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Whilst his general shot-stopping might be half decent, Surely it's universally accepted on here that Betts' command of his area (along with his kicking) is terrible
Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 21, 2018, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Whilst his general shot-stopping might be half decent, Surely it's universally accepted on here that Betts' command of his area (along with his kicking) is terrible
Kicking - I believe you're right. General consensus was that he was a slight upgrade on Betts. Indeed likely he would improve further with more game time.
Command of the area depends on how you quantify it. For me it means how well you communicate to your defence and how good you are coming off your line to catch crosses, claim through balls etc. Fabri has struggled with English since arriving while Betts has always been very vocal. I saw the Celta game and posted after that I was worried about Fabri's decision making coming off his line for their fourth or fifth goal from a free kick. It proved to be a good spot as he did a similar thing against Palace to concede their second a week later.
His defence will be less confident in him as a result and that will mean uncertainty around the penalty area.
Quote from: Milo on October 22, 2018, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 21, 2018, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Whilst his general shot-stopping might be half decent, Surely it's universally accepted on here that Betts' command of his area (along with his kicking) is terrible
Kicking - I believe you're right. General consensus was that he was a slight upgrade on Betts. Indeed likely he would improve further with more game time.
Command of the area depends on how you quantify it. For me it means how well you communicate to your defence and how good you are coming off your line to catch crosses, claim through balls etc. Fabri has struggled with English since arriving while Betts has always been very vocal. I saw the Celta game and posted after that I was worried about Fabri's decision making coming off his line for their fourth or fifth goal from a free kick. It proved to be a good spot as he did a similar thing against Palace to concede their second a week later.
His defence will be less confident in him as a result and that will mean uncertainty around the penalty area.
OK I agree for vocal communication Betts is good
It's his catching and coming for crosses I think is poor
I suppose command of area is a combination of the two
Quote from: Statto on October 22, 2018, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Milo on October 22, 2018, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Statto on October 21, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Milo on October 21, 2018, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on October 21, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Shame because he's a good keeper. Also, it's not as if Betts has shown anything better than him this season
Betts has been far more commanding of his area than Fabri. He had one poor game this weekend..
Whilst his general shot-stopping might be half decent, Surely it's universally accepted on here that Betts' command of his area (along with his kicking) is terrible
Kicking - I believe you're right. General consensus was that he was a slight upgrade on Betts. Indeed likely he would improve further with more game time.
Command of the area depends on how you quantify it. For me it means how well you communicate to your defence and how good you are coming off your line to catch crosses, claim through balls etc. Fabri has struggled with English since arriving while Betts has always been very vocal. I saw the Celta game and posted after that I was worried about Fabri's decision making coming off his line for their fourth or fifth goal from a free kick. It proved to be a good spot as he did a similar thing against Palace to concede their second a week later.
His defence will be less confident in him as a result and that will mean uncertainty around the penalty area.
OK I agree for vocal communication Betts is good
It's his catching and coming for crosses I think is poor
I suppose command of area is a combination of the two
I think this is where "he's one of our own" and the idea he's on the brink of the England set-up etc comes in. Just pushing him in front of Fabri in the pecking order?
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on October 21, 2018, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 21, 2018, 12:15:19 PM
Well he was certainly a mistake. He never looked comfortable but then who would behind our defence? At least he was given a chance. Well a few games anyway.
The mistake has been letting Bettinelli play over him during Rico's embedding in time.
"The mistake"? Really, when he is now reported as wanting a return ticket to Turkey? Or was that an early indication that coaches has identified a player who was unlikely to work hard enough at settling in at a new club? Some transfers work and some don't, but it is better for all concerned not to have people who do not want to at least try to fit into their new environment or who have tried and failed to do so.
I think a few of our players are not too happy playing the ball out from the back every time. A goal keeper likes a good punt up pitch as 1 it relieves stress and 2 relaxes concentration for a while. Football should be a mixture of everything
The fact that he was given three (?) games in English football before Bettinelli came in is absolutely LAUGHABLE. Better keepers have taken longer to adjust, and he came in with plenty of pedigree and should've been given time on the pitch.
Quote from: EJL on October 22, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
The fact that he was given three (?) games in English football before Bettinelli came in is absolutely LAUGHABLE. Better keepers have taken longer to adjust, and he came in with plenty of pedigree and should've been given time on the pitch.
Some of his rushes off his line were also laughable.
