A second goal for Steven in England u19s second Euro Qualifier victory of the break (3-1 v Iceland).
He's impressed in the u23 matches that have been screened this season and must be on the verge of a first team outing.
People might and most probably will disagree with this,but I've seen this sort of scenario in another field involving twins.
Ryan has been the dominant one and the one at the fore for so long,but it wouldn't surprise me when he breaks through that Steven might have an actual better career in the game than Ryan.
Hopefully both will enjoy excellent careers and lives. It would be a joy to see them win something with us and with England.
Looking at our RBs this season I don't think he would be as bad as they have been.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 19, 2018, 12:54:01 PM
People might and most probably will disagree with this,but I've seen this sort of scenario in another field involving twins.
Ryan has been the dominant one and the one at the fore for so long,but it wouldn't surprise me when he breaks through that Steven might have an actual better career in the game than Ryan.
I don't actually disagree, but offer a slightly different perspective.
In earliest days, although Ryan might have caught the eye because he was a more regular goalscorer, I think they were rated more or less equal as prospects. At first they played in the same England age group, but Steven received an injury playing for England which cost him a year's development - which is obviously a major factor at that age. Steven might still be catching up.
The development of young footballers is rarely a regular progression. A spectacular start is often followed by a more difficult period as the youngster figures out how to deal with opponents who have become familiar with their play.
I don't see it as a competition between them. Let's hope they both enjoy stellar careers whilst at FFC.
I think he has deserved a go at RB
Quote from: hovewhite on November 19, 2018, 11:04:08 PM
I think he has deserved a go at RB
I think he should have been given a chance before now but not sure whether such a crucial game coming up is ideal for him to make a start, it would mean yet another change to our defence and we all now how previous changes have worked out!
We have tried two supposedly experienced full backs at right back with varying degrees of success, mainly dismal. So Steven should be given a run of games to ascertain if he can cut it. I fully expect that he will. Come on CR, give him a go.
I'd be very inclined (and happy) to give SS a go. On Saturday.
Sorry chaps but feel in our current situation a bit too risky. I would have liked to see him play at the Man City cup game. As it was pretty obvious they were going to not play the first team but a good quality team with a number of reserves it would be a chance to see how he gets on. Would want to see him play in a cup game agains good quality opposition.
I believe he's good enough now,but understand both sides of the argument.
Honestly, I think he will get game time. Looking at the counter attacking football that CR set up at Leicester (and we have all made the assumption that is how we will be set up from now on) our full backs are going to be run into the ground.
I've liked what I've seen from S Sess. I'm with others and expect to see him get some game time.
If he had been with the squad since last wed S.Sess might have a shout
As Ranieri will only meet him today or tomorrow there is no way he will play Saturday
However I am sure he will get a good look in over the next few weeks .
Ranieri will have no loyalty to any player and will use the ones that he thinks he will keep us up .
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Playing him will set him up for a mighty fall on this board if he makes a mistake
Quote from: alfie on November 21, 2018, 12:19:07 PM
Playing him will set him up for a mighty fall on this board if he makes a mistake
But by that logic we should never play youth players?
I don't think he will feature this week, but given the style and demand put on full / wing backs by CR at Leicester we will need to rotate the squad.
Quote from: alfie on November 21, 2018, 12:19:07 PM
Playing him will set him up for a mighty fall on this board if he makes a mistake
You're probably right.
It's certainly the last thing that should bother him, or anyone else.
I certainly think he should be on the bench and brought on for the last 20 minutes or so if we are battering or being battered vs Southampton. If he does well, and my gut tells me he should, then a few more sub outings before a start in the FA cup and we go on from there.
I don't believe we should Jorenen/ Burgess him and throw him straight into a start, likewise a clear plan such as this will also enable players such as O'Riley, DLT see there is a clear path if they are good enough.
Quote from: Ols_S on November 21, 2018, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: alfie on November 21, 2018, 12:19:07 PM
Playing him will set him up for a mighty fall on this board if he makes a mistake
But by that logic we should never play youth players?
I don't think he will feature this week, but given the style and demand put on full / wing backs by CR at Leicester we will need to rotate the squad.
Of course he needs to be played and I am sure he will be like his brother, but one mistake ?, but then again the old saying "he is one of our own" will save him.
Quote from: Bill2 on November 20, 2018, 02:04:25 PM
Sorry chaps but feel in our current situation a bit too risky. I would have liked to see him play at the Man City cup game. As it was pretty obvious they were going to not play the first team but a good quality team with a number of reserves it would be a chance to see how he gets on. Would want to see him play in a cup game agains good quality opposition.
+1
One of the problems we've had is playing too many combinations. I think we should stick with what's been used so far. Player A knowing Player B's weaknesses and strengths at least allows him some sense in what may happening and what he needs to do about it. Introducing a new player, particulary to a leaky defence is just going to add more confusion to the current situation.
Quote from: I Ronic on November 21, 2018, 03:18:15 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on November 20, 2018, 02:04:25 PM
Sorry chaps but feel in our current situation a bit too risky. I would have liked to see him play at the Man City cup game. As it was pretty obvious they were going to not play the first team but a good quality team with a number of reserves it would be a chance to see how he gets on. Would want to see him play in a cup game agains good quality opposition.
+1
One of the problems we've had is playing too many combinations. I think we should stick with what's been used so far. Player A knowing Player B's weaknesses and strengths at least allows him some sense in what may happening and what he needs to do about it. Introducing a new player, particulary to a leaky defence is just going to add more confusion to the current situation.
Would agree with this if we were on about anew player but SSess has been around the team for at least a year.
Sess has played one reserve game this year, every other game he has been with the seniors in the matchday squad but not the 18 as far as I'm aware.
Don't buy the logic that a new player would confuse any situation, nor that it's better to go with status quo because they all know each other's weaknesses. That hasn't helped them so far, as Sess should be considered just as much as the others out in the cold like Neeskens or Floyd.
He's on form with England, confidence will be sky high, if he produces the same form in training I don't see why not. It's not as if everyone else has bags more premier league experience than him
